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[TheGoldenParadox]

Vote Count 1.8

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

benhalkum

(5): Alchemist21, Flavor Leaf, superbowl9, Titus, NoPowerOverMe |

L-2

NoPowerOverMe

(3): Battle Mage, benhalkum, OutWorldER

Titus

(2): Non lmh, hessian

superbowl9

(2): Rannygazoo, Andresvmb

Not Voting

(1): wiyvern

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-07 17:23:44).

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I am using Thesp's automated votecounter - please notify me if there are any errors.
hessian is V/LA until Sunday.
Deadline has been extended by 4 days for the Thanksgiving holiday.

[benhalkum]

Alrighty FL.

Lets test your theory.

UNVOTE: NoPowerOverMe

VOTE: Benhalkum

[benhalkum]

BTW.. I still think it's NPoM, but I'm willing to sacrifice if it gets town actually thnking.

[Titus]

Ben, what are your actual reads?

[benhalkum]

Ben, what are your actual reads?

NoPowerOverMe is explained in https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12358048

I HAD pulled back that FL was scum, town reading them after reviewing NPoM's post, but their last few post mimic our previous game we played together in which they were scum. Either FL is scum, or they are playing carelessly as town.

You are Town Titus.

BattleMage i BELIEVE is town but could be carefully playing as scum. Need them to post some more on everything going on.

SuperBowl and Alchamist I'm not leaning either way ATM. They both have shown to either playing safely as scum or playing town. Neither scummy enough for me to consider.

OutWorlder and Rannz seems town to me. But I'm always cautious day 1.

No read on anyone else ATM.

[OutWorldER]

I'm feeling Ben is town here. His questioning feels like town genuinely trying to solve the slots he's engaging and his hesitance to vote feels to me more like a townie in the dark than scum. His reaction to his RVS wagon was bad but his reaction to this current one is good, still trying to solve and push even though he's being piled on.

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

Ranny and ben votes feel very opportunistic from this guy, and his current engagement with Ben does not feel genuine.

you say his current reaction was good, but I feel like he just turned on the easiest one to turn on on his wagon.

When scum basically make no effort to play the game it'll feel like they're an easy choice. This mindset is exactly what they rely on to coast by.

And like:

What's wrong with sheeping? It's not like there's a whole lot of action yet.

You want to tell me this post is pro-town?

[superbowl9]

Not sure why ben is self-voting at this stage, dont we have soooo long to deadline and he’s the first wagon? Comes off as scummy > desperate/defeated town imo

[benhalkum]

Not sure why ben is self-voting at this stage, dont we have soooo long to deadline and he’s the first wagon? Comes off as scummy > desperate/defeated town imo

None of the above.

Indifferent.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Vote Count 1.8

With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

benhalkum

(5): Alchemist21, Flavor Leaf, superbowl9, Titus, NoPowerOverMe |

L-2

NoPowerOverMe

(3): Battle Mage, benhalkum, OutWorldER

Titus

(2): Non lmh, hessian

superbowl9

(2): Rannygazoo, Andresvmb

Not Voting

(1): wiyvern

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-07 17:23:44).

Mod notes:

I am using Thesp's automated votecounter - please notify me if there are any errors.
hessian is V/LA until Sunday.
Deadline has been extended by 4 days for the Thanksgiving holiday.

Ben would rather be elimed than implicate his buddies I think.

[Rannygazoo]

I think FL was implying he would self-hammer, but that’s clearly not happening

Honestly it would never happen if it was announced that the E-1 vote was just a test. And anyone else who hammers this early in the day would be lock scum.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Would they be lock scum if he flipped red?

[Rannygazoo]

If you think Ben is scum, you can take time an deliberate before hammering. There’s no excuse not to. If Ben flips red, it’s scum trying to end the day early so no one else gets implicated like you said, plus bussing for town cred.

[NoPowerOverMe]

If not saying to quickhammer but self voting is a scum claim in my book.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm

[benhalkum]

If you think Ben is scum, you can take time an deliberate before hammering. There’s no excuse not to. If Ben flips red, it’s scum trying to end the day early so no one else gets implicated like you said, plus bussing for town cred.

Exactly what I was hoping to force, actual discussion, since it seems most people are playing this game on cruise control.

If it happens, cool, we have more to go off of and work with.

If it doesn't, and I get hammered thus turning up town, then I patiently away D2 to see the finger pointing and enjoy watching how it plays out when people go back and look at each of my post to pin point who is scum from my original deductions.

[NoPowerOverMe]

A partial day of conversation shouldn't be worth your death. Your defeatest attitude isn't townie.

[benhalkum]

A partial day of conversation shouldn't be worth your death. Your defeatest attitude isn't townie.

Well, let me know when you are ready to actually have conversation then as you have yet to contribute to the game in any profound way.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I am. I'm sorry you don't like the conversation.

[benhalkum]

I am. I'm sorry you don't like the conversation.

How about a breakdown of all of your reads? Hyper focused on me, with no true reason, but you've still yet to lay anything out about anyone.

But by all means, continue not contributing.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Town is in a comfortable spot right now from where I see it.

[OutWorldER]

And anyone else who hammers this early in the day would be lock scum.

you wanna fuckin bet

VOTE: Benhalkum

[superbowl9]

Not sure why ben is self-voting at this stage, dont we have soooo long to deadline and he’s the first wagon? Comes off as scummy > desperate/defeated town imo

None of the above.

Indifferent.

Indifferent people don't self vote at L-2

pedit: welp

[OutWorldER]

my post is memey but I had to do a big think and reread for that.

then I realized ben was bamboozling me. get the fuck outta here with that.

[superbowl9]

Can we policy that tomorrow it needs to be punished from either alignment (unless ben's scum in which case they escape with a warning)

[Alchemist21]

Self vote followed by a quickhammer. What the hell even is this game anymore?