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[Purple Heart]

I don't think I'm interested in council participation.
I don't I should be either, I think the Flea kill makes me look bad enough that I shouldn't ever be in council.

[MURDERCAT]

I don't think {infinity purple} is the scum team and if there is one scum I think it is more likely to be Infinity tbh. I do think the Flea kill was a frame, but the tracy track part of it is less conclusive. So basically as long as {tracy, Infinity, Gamma} aren't on the council I'm happy.

[Purple Heart]

Man Infinity.
I feel like I'm forced to 1v1 you given my start of the day, and I certainly want to have this 1v1. Its gonna be fun to kill scum.
If you are town and you are learning blue, waiting for me to attack is correct.
Here's the problem though.

I could just
not attack.

You're being careful and I respect that.

dw though, I will attack you and I will come at you hard with full force.

You could be scum realizing you're mistake from twilight and playing it cool.
Or you could be town and what I said clicked.

So if you're town.
Show me.
It will be hard. Gamma knows how I am when I get this way. Its hard for me to pull myself out of tunnels.

If you're scum, I wish you best of luck in the 1v1.
If you're town, I hope you can do the best you can to convince me I'm wrong. If you fail to do so and you flip town, I'm sorry. I'm just doing my best to solve the puzzle.

[Infinity 324]

Oh yeah. This.

went even further to inquiry about this take to people they scumread and townread.

This is a super weak reason to townread someone, asking questions about people's thoughts is super easy to do as scum

They also literally did not have to take me up on my offer in questioning me or even responding to my posts toward them because this slot replaced in with a reasonably articulated level of suspicion. I don't see how scum progresses like this because I find it doubtful that this setup - one that encourages townhunting - would evaluate a slot on their personal merits rather than construct and emphasize a narrative that asserted a potential mislim.

This also feels like he was trying to find a reason to TR me, I don't know why just engaging with taly's posts get's a TR.

I also think it's exploitative to try and influence his thoughts much further on the reads he is trying to resolve at the moment.

If taly was worried about being exploitative towards me, he wouldn't have let alisae play the way e did yesterday. I don't buy this.

This is slightly a soulread. I don't want to go too much in depth with this right now. I really enjoyed their conversation with

Alisae

and they're one of the players outlining thoughts that aren't as voiced in as much volume as others in this game.

Gamma

is someone I have even more game experience with than

Alisae (if you remove the mindmelding that comes with being a hydra)

and I get the impression that they're solving. I'd like to see them in a hood.

A lot of words to say not much explanation. It's fine to not go in depth on a read but this feels like he added content for content's sake.

But what I would like for people to do is evaluate my posts instead of labeling this slot as lockscum due to 1/2 of the heads. I get the impression that people are dismissing my input in favor of asserting an easier read on

Alisae

but we're both the same alignment. It feels easier and noncommittal to criticize only half of the mindset of this slot even though one head has a higher volume of posts that have garnered valid criticism. I support

Alisae's

self-assessment because I have been familiar with their progression and mentality on this site for years, and while their approach may be soundly assessed as manipulative or agenda-based, I haven't concluded their approach themselves as a concrete alignment. But the previous statement merely clouds other people's judgment on the slot, so I want people to take an active approach to this head rather than speak around this head for a stronger solve and idea on my POV.

I did the same thing pretty much and taly doesn't call me out for it? And this also feels weird in the context of taly not talking to alisae and telling em to calm down.

I get barely anything out of this long post.

Murder talk to me.

[MURDERCAT]

I'm gunna eat lunch and let you two go at it for a bit

[kookiemonster]

lmfao murder just like "byeeeee imma dip now"

[Purple Heart]

How the Infinity killed the Alisae

　　　　　　　　　

The Infinity ISO Map

Infinity 324 (1768)

MURDERCAT

✦15 =178 =376 +378 +380 +382 ◆+392 +443 +446 -?449 -453 =571 +592 -629 -632 -634 -669 =670 -814 -869 -971 =972 =976 -1042 =1053 +1078 +1084 =1094 -1109 -1134 =1243 +1307 ✦1320 ☀ =1416 =-?1422 -1470 +1576 ☾

tracy flick

=7 =137 -139 -187 =1022 +1064 =1065 -1109 -1134 +1304 ☀ -1470 +1583 ☾ -1678

Swizzle Pop/Noraa/kookiemonster

=10 =13 =24 =192 =291 =296 -345 +367 +?392 r =473 +?-?562 =564 -632 -657 -675 -681 =705 =712 ?728 -767 -775 -781 r -791 =813 ?969 ?972 =1082 =1093 -1109 -1134 -1287 =1328 +1347 ?1349 =1416 -1422 ☀ =1446 =1537 =1568 +1581 ☾

Uncrowned

=183 =194 ✦392 +624 =629 -846 =866 +873 +875 +887 +992 ✦846 -1134 +1137 ?1162 ◆1320 =1342 +1352 ☀ +1446 =1476 =1523 ☾

DkKoba/Purple Heart

+34 v41 u60 -159 -163 =292 =260 =296 -303 -309 -313 -352 -355 -357 -?+?364 -443 -446 -449 r =464 -503 =506 =533 =534 -536 -538 =562 +578 +593 -629 =715 =745 +773 ✦846 +973 -979 +986 ◆1102 -1109 -1119 -1126 -1129 -1134 =1142 -1147 =1166 +1188 =1207 =1208 =1243 +1250 -1281 -1283 -1287 =1292 =1294 -1307 +1309 ?1349 -1401 ☀ -1470 -1479 -1497 -1499 -1514 =1539 =1542 =1543 =1553 =1557 ☾ v1694 =1707 -1712 =1718 =?1725 -1729 -1678

Gamma Emerald

=43 =60 =139 =296 -297 -347 +604 =667 =696 =791 ✦+846 =887 +995 -1134 +1137 =1349 ☀ +1446 +1581 ☾

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OutWorldER

=7 -?139 -152 -178 -297 +339 +344 +592 -846 +992 -?1084 -1090 -1109 -1134 v1313 ☀ u1428 ✝

Flea the Magician

=7 =206 =296 +973 -1109 -1134 =1207 =1243 +1250 +1252 ☀ ✝

Before I tell my story, I need to post this map.
A lot of the story I want to tell is based around Infinity's progression on us and it include's some of Noraa's progression as well.
What this section of this case is about is going to be able his progression on other players and what this could mean.
- Flea. What interest us on his Flea read is how much it hinges on Taly's read and he scumreads us because if we're scum, we could just be defending a buddy. This read is likely indicative of TMI.
- MURDERCAT. Why is he electing to vote someone into the council that he has mostly - interactions with, even up to him electing him into council.
- Tracy. In general everything here is all over the place.
- Uncrowned. Their townread on the slot seems to hinge on the fact that they just seem really natural. This could be them defending a buddy, and I wouldn't say its impossible for Uncrowned to be scum with Infinity, however I feel like somethings from Uncrowned just don't exactly line up from Uncrowned's perspective.
- Gamma. Honestly, my only complaint is where does the read on 604 come from?
- OutWorldER. In retrospect to OutWorldER flipping town, I feel like Infinity's progression on the slot in general is bad.
I care about this a lot because he seems okay with OutWorldER even though I said in thread prior to it that OutWorldER was my prefered kill, several times.

I feel like another reason for scum!Infinity that I feel like could make Infinity scum in this game is his progression and handling of this player.

I also need to say I don't really feel strongly about any of these? (except OutWorldER)
I feel obligated to include it because its like, something, but its not the story I want to tell because the story I want to tell is what I believe makes Infinity scum in this game.

There's also another thing that I needed to ponder as well:
Why does Infinity feel the need to show his top TRs?
No offense, but I don't think anyone will care.
This may not exactly be the same, but I used to provide a FoS vote count alongside a normal votecount in games I modded.
As a mechanic, it acted as bloatwhere. There was no reason to include it and it was never important enough to use.
It seems weird Infinity is the only one that is using the heal tags for that purpose.
He said so earlier in the game that thats how he wanted to use those tags, but later in the game, when I started pushing for a council and that's what town needed to do with their time at that moment, Infinity is still using it to show his Top TRs.

What I expect from town is to abandon using their heals for the purpose of showing their top TRs and to try to get working on building a council.

When I incoperated FoS counts into my game, thats what happened. It had use early but no one cared about it mid-late.
The fact he feels obligated to do so this late into the game makes me feel like he's trying to make a show of it.

Again, it could just be town who needs to do it for themselves, so I don't feel strongly about this and I don't think this is what makes Infinity scum in this game.

　　　　　　　　　

Required Reading

In this case, I may mention players by what colors they are using.
This is a reference to This thread where I talk about MTG colors and how those colors would strategically approach the game of mafia.
I refer to this concept a lot as well as this thread a lot.

　　　　　　　　　

Meet Koba

Koba is a toxic gamer.
I sometimes say he when refering to them, so I am going to try to do the best I can to say them. I'm associate people with one pronoun and if they change its easy for me to mess up, so I'm mostly saying this as me basically saying I'm trying as hard as I can. Mostly so I don't get reported for fucking something up.
but I don't think that changes that koba is in fact a toxic gamer.
they also play what I feel like is a very blue/black game. You could argue they're red, but I don't think so. I think if you put Koba in late game their late game will be pretty strong and they would approach late game with blue not red. I also believe that their approach to the game is just more blue then red.

I feel like Infinity saw Koba as a threat

and tried to discredit it starting with 159.
At first is vague and somewhat inquisitive, but in general he does the opposite of giving koba benefit of the doubt.
He doesn't really seem interested in his analysis and just wants to the shade the slot.

Getting scumvibes from koba.

If u think im scum then gamma scum makes little sense? Lol

Someone brought up Open 799....lol

and so?

You bussed the shit out of your partner there, you could be bussing here

Not that I think it's particularly likely, gamma's posting has felt pretty natural to me so far. But having SRs on you and gamma is not incompatible at all.

please note my d1 reads are like historically never perfect. but im pretty good at at least catching 1 scum at some point during d1 so theres that

More LAMIST. I can tell the difference between feeling a town perspective and faking it.

To us this reads like a bad faith push.

　　　　　　　　　

Exit Koba, Enter Alisae

Me and Koba as town are both Blue/Black. However how we're black is different is how we respond to not being able to get the environment that we need.
Koba is generally toxic and if they can't get the environment they wants he'll still continue to operate how they normally does. However, they can't convince people if everyone hates them. I played scum before and I poetically killed Koba in F5 for game. What happened in that game was the conditions for them to be good were not met, everyone hated them, they got toxic, they self-destructed adn weren't able to convince anyone of their reads. The conditions for Koba to pop off were not met and it was what caused his team to lose the game.
I require to be townread and to be given the space I need to function. If I don't get that environment, I self-destruct, use my emotion. I am also used to being scumread so I can tell the difference between scum scumreading me and town scumreading me most times. If the playerlist doesn't respond well me or my emotion after they press their concerns about me, I will not thrive.

This is the main difference between me and koba

.
So the way Infinity decides to respond to this, is to give me an opportunity to allow him to townread me, so he can properly figure out how he wants to use my slot to help him win the game. He also thinks that what I post could be interpretted as genuine so he waits to see how the other players react to it.

(btw just as a side note, if a player's approach to another player is different then how they approached their predecessor, the 2 seperate approaches is indicative that the slot has a high chance of being scum).

Taly’s posting isn’t bad, but alisae still looks scummy as hell. “Acting skills? I’m so town I don’t even know what those are!!”

I do think I’ve been a bit lazy with this game today and I want to re-evaluate a bit. I have only played with town noraa once before, but I keep getting worried since she looks so towny here and normally doesn’t as town lol. I would like alisae to go into depth on a read because he has trouble faking depth as scum iirc.

Purple definitely is starting to read genuine

just seems way too unnatural

both heads using the same phrase to SR me is a 99% scum tell. Hydras never work like that even if they agree with each other.

How many hydra’s have you been apart of? Is it a single digit number?
I’ve been in a lot of hydras, like 10 or maybe 20 honestly.

Like if you’re town, I don’t believe how delusional you must be to think you perfectly understand everything there is to understand about hydras when you just started playing on site and you’re just starting to try out hydraing.

Like, I’ve not been apart of a lot of hydras (Even with more then 2 players in them, hell, I’ve even apart of one of the biggest hydras on site that was had 12+ People in them), but I’ve modded a hell of a lot of games, and was the best mod in 2017, partially because I modded really cool Hydra ONLY games.

I feel like I would understand hydras to know more then well enough that you are just wrong here. If player’s view the game similarly, they will tend to use the same words. It rubs off of people. It’s very easy for both heads of a hydra to use the same phrases.

And that’s because this is a really amazing hydra. Its a hydra where both players are participating and thinking about the game and cooperating with each other. Talking to Taly about reads has been a blast.

This isn’t an experience you will get right away because sometimes hydras just won’t work.

You’re not lucky and you just don’t understand hydras well enough to deduce what is a scumtell and what isn’t.

Noraa I really think this slot is town.

　　　　　　　　　

Alisae v Noraa

So he decides to play the townie who is trying to disfuse me and noraa.
However he's quite awful at it and doesn't really try to defuse it.
I think

Infinity wanted me and noraa to fight and did not expect each other to stop fighting.

I think this because during this time, a lot of Infinity's interactions with noraa are -
I think if it was evident that the day was going to be decided between me and noraa, he was going to decide on noraa.

just seems way too unnatural

both heads using the same phrase to SR me is a 99% scum tell. Hydras never work like that even if they agree with each other.

How many hydra’s have you been apart of? Is it a single digit number?
I’ve been in a lot of hydras, like 10 or maybe 20 honestly.

Like if you’re town, I don’t believe how delusional you must be to think you perfectly understand everything there is to understand about hydras when you just started playing on site and you’re just starting to try out hydraing.

Like, I’ve not been apart of a lot of hydras (Even with more then 2 players in them, hell, I’ve even apart of one of the biggest hydras on site that was had 12+ People in them), but I’ve modded a hell of a lot of games, and was the best mod in 2017, partially because I modded really cool Hydra ONLY games.

I feel like I would understand hydras to know more then well enough that you are just wrong here. If player’s view the game similarly, they will tend to use the same words. It rubs off of people. It’s very easy for both heads of a hydra to use the same phrases.

And that’s because this is a really amazing hydra. Its a hydra where both players are participating and thinking about the game and cooperating with each other. Talking to Taly about reads has been a blast.

This isn’t an experience you will get right away because sometimes hydras just won’t work.

You’re not lucky and you just don’t understand hydras well enough to deduce what is a scumtell and what isn’t.

Noraa I really think this slot is town.

fuck man idunno i mean
does scum!noraa randomly say that I could just be a scummy player
I mean, to be fair, its not something they've gone out of their way to entertain. I feel like they've just been dead set on tunneling me still so maybe that was a fluke?

I’m worried that she did it to buddy me

Infinity if it helps, I didn't really even know you SRed DK and if I remember correctly, I SRed DK before you anyways so if anything ur the one pocketing.

Infinity, did she literally respond to you by saying "No U" when she posted everything you quoted in 675?
What the fuck

I can see why she said it since I implied her whole SR on the slot was to buddy me. I didn't mean that, but just when she was pushing on the same reaction I thought was fake alongside me it felt like buddying a bit. Accusing me of potentially buddying her doesn't make much sense though.

Noraa I forget, do you like scum or town better?

Alisae you're not helping honestly and I don't think noraa sorts well under pressure, especially when you're yelling "you're bad therefore you're scum".

I think because of Infinity's read on Noraa, if Infinity is scum, Noraa is town. It is impossible for them to be partners from Infinity's POV and Noraa's POV.

　　　　　　　　　

Alisae v Noraa concludes, Infinity's "Paranoia" begins

This is around the time I start pushing us, Infinity, and Gamma into the council.
Because me and Noraa stop fighting, Infinity fakes paranoia about both of us until he can figure out where he should position his reads.
Becuase of how I played, I think he begins to transition into a scumread on our slot because if he doesn't, he doesn't have anywhere to go.
He has a hard townread on Uncrowned, he wants to townread Flea, Noraa isn't something I'm interested in anymore, he townreads Gamma, Tracy isn't relevant and as scum its better to let a sleeping bear sleep instead of poking it.
This allows him to transition into scumreads on Tracy (if it no longer sleeps), Murder, Us, or OutWorldER.

People probably won't go for Murder. BUT they COULD go for us.
SO he decides to transition into scumreading us. It just makes sense for him to do that.
And his "Paranoia" is how he does that.
All he has to do is just make up a reason to justify it.

I do think I’ve been a bit lazy with this game today and I want to re-evaluate a bit. I have only played with town noraa once before, but I keep getting worried since she looks so towny here and normally doesn’t as town lol. I would like alisae to go into depth on a read because he has trouble faking depth as scum iirc.

I actually think her scumread our slot is fine. I don't think anything me and Taly can pump out right away will invalidate her read on koba.

I think the biggest difference between town!noraa and scum!noraa is I feel like scum!noraa will want to paint our slot scummy using whatever means possible and saying I'm overeacting does that. I think to noraa saying that me overeacting is scummy allows her to maintain an ironclad reason to scumread me. If she was town, why would she continue pressing me for overeacting when I told her that I act like this all of the time? This doesn't make sense to me.

Infinity truth is, I panic a lot when I get scumread as both alignments I can give you links but tbh I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two at a point.
atm I have no idea what's going on.

Like in my rant to taly I literally posted this before I started posting again in thread

Yo I actually have no idea what the fuck is happening in this game anymore tbh
Is it infinity who is pushing me for his 503 because that’s not how scum actually act and for every scum player who acts that way a town player can also act that way
Is it noraa for calling my playstyle scummy when she literally replaced into a town slot I was in where I was doing the exact same things?
Is it flea or Overworld for just being non-contributors and letting town kill itself?
Is it that one dude who wrote 420 for TMIing us town?

Like I honestly just have no idea whats going on atm so please be patient for me. As of writing this I think its noraa because calling me scum for overeacting just seems way too unnatural for it to be town.

Ok I got some paranoia on purple last night because of this. I mentioned that alisae difficulty faking nuance as scum, which is apparently wrong? Then e doesn’t correct me, but immediately pulls out a nuanced read (not impossible from town but still) and flips eir read on me and starts to TR me. It kinda felt like when I said that alisae had trouble faking nuance as scum e thought that I’d be easy to pocket.

HEAL: Purple
HEAL: Infinity
HEAL: Gamma

I like gamma’s casual-ness to approaching reads, whereas he tried to look town more in haunted village. I have some paranoia wrt uncrowned and haven’t solidified my outworlder read, so I’m actually most comfortable with gamma as my second strongest TR.

Yeah honestly, I think this is the strongest student counsel we can ask for.
When it comes to doctor saves, the amount of kills I stopped is stupidly high for no reason. I can actually provide links but I'm either getting like super lucky or I just know how to use protection roles well.
My vote here is in spirit but I feel like it would be inappropriate for me to commit to this because I remember Taly telling me he wanted to talk to Gamma.

This also seemed a bit over the top. But idk. The slot has done so much town since replacing in that I don’t wanna scumread them, just paranoid.

I’m paranoid cause everyone’s buddying me and I don’t know how to deal with that, lol

Then e doesn’t correct me, but immediately pulls out a nuanced read (not impossible from town but still) and flips eir read on me and starts to TR me.

I don't see why either alignment corrects you tbh. If I'm scum, its obviously better for me to not correct you, but if I'm town, I feel like it doesn't matter? Also you were asking me to go in depth on a read.

I can explain me flipping my read on you though, I think the way you approached my slot compared to noraa was a lot better in that while you still seemed like you scumread me at the time, it felt as if your mind was fairly open. I think in general the whole way you approached me and noraa was kinda townie and I feel like the real time interactions with you are good enough to not warrant revisiting the early pages of the game.

Hopefully that helps you out?

Yeah that makes sense. It was mostly something I put out there to see if other people call me insane. I do think I was towny in those interactions.

HURT: purple
HEAL: uncrowned

Sorry purple. This is where I’m at rn.

My solve rn is one of {purple, kookie} + one of {outworlder, murder, tracy, flea}. My buddying sensors are blaring atm and I’m not sure who’s doing it. Outworlder is the most likely from the second group since murder pointed out the difference from 2170.

PEdit: we can decide who to doc once we form the council. I just want people who I’m confident are town on the council.

　　　　　　　　　

Infinity justifies his read

At this point Flea started pushing me and now he decides its his turn to do so.
in 1292 he seems interested in how this would be how I played as town.
I give him a bunch of my town games and if he read them, he will find that I act like this when people scumread me.
he goes on to not care about that in general in 1307.
He shades Taly's post in 1401 but does not explain how they're stretches.
In twilight, he supported Uncrowned when Uncrowned just misread "Sleep" as "Sheep"
And even after then, he continues to push it, but his arguement here doesn't make any sense.

In my MD thread where I talk about how the MTG colors can represent strategic approaches to the game, Infinity posts that he aspires to learn how to play blue.
If this is true, then his approach to twilight doesn't make sense.
If he strongly believed that I was setting up an elimination on him, a blue player responds to this by doing nothing.
Inaction is action here, and Infinity's response is what a red player would do, not a blue player. Also, it doesn't exactly make sense either.
His response to this arguement is to say he doesn't want to have the conversation because if he does have this conversation, it may give information to scum on how to doc.
but the issue with this is that this point is actually just complete bullshit.

How does saying nothing and shutting up give information to scum on who you're going to protect?

If Infinity was town and was trying to learn how to play blue, he would shut up, see who dies during the night, and see what I do at the start of the next phase.
Instead he comes out with this shitpush, which is what a red player would do.
In general this whole push just doesn't make sense, and is something I feel like is more likely to come from scum then town.

　　　　　　　　　

The Murder of the Flea

I believe with all of the events that lead up to N1, all Infinity needs to do is kill Flea and he's set the stage.
The kill functions to make me look bad.
I can't argue that I don't kill Flea because to be honest, I can kill Flea.
The Flea kill is enough to set the stage and make people want to distrust me, so with that said, people still scumread me for it, its honestly fine.
But when I flip town, you need to kill Infinity. His approach to me at the start of the day has been within bad faith.
So this is my letter to Infinity.

Your more recent posts look like something that can come from either alignment.
I can tell you are trying to learn how to play blue, but you could also just be scum waiting for me to pounce.

If you can't pull me out of this tunnel, you will die.
Good luck gamer.

[kookiemonster]

Purple locktown in my heart forever.
done. period.
now lemme read this wall.

[kookiemonster]

A lot of the story I want to tell is based around Infinity's progression on us and it include's some of Noraa's progression as well.

just started reading this wall but I'd like to say that my original 180 on you like going from saying you were a SR to saying you were a TR was 100% fake. I still thought u were scum at the time. I just felt like there was way too much pressure on me to change around the read and too many people were flipping their TRs on me.

My current TR on you tho, I do personally believe in.

[kookiemonster]

If you can't pull me out of this tunnel, you will die.
Good luck gamer.

skimmed a bit. before I go in and read everything with 100% attention, what color are Johnny and I, Ali?

[Purple Heart]

Oh yeah. This.

went even further to inquiry about this take to people they scumread and townread.

This is a super weak reason to townread someone, asking questions about people's thoughts is super easy to do as scum

They also literally did not have to take me up on my offer in questioning me or even responding to my posts toward them because this slot replaced in with a reasonably articulated level of suspicion. I don't see how scum progresses like this because I find it doubtful that this setup - one that encourages townhunting - would evaluate a slot on their personal merits rather than construct and emphasize a narrative that asserted a potential mislim.

This also feels like he was trying to find a reason to TR me, I don't know why just engaging with taly's posts get's a TR.

I also think it's exploitative to try and influence his thoughts much further on the reads he is trying to resolve at the moment.

If taly was worried about being exploitative towards me, he wouldn't have let alisae play the way e did yesterday. I don't buy this.

This is slightly a soulread. I don't want to go too much in depth with this right now. I really enjoyed their conversation with

Alisae

and they're one of the players outlining thoughts that aren't as voiced in as much volume as others in this game.

Gamma

is someone I have even more game experience with than

Alisae (if you remove the mindmelding that comes with being a hydra)

and I get the impression that they're solving. I'd like to see them in a hood.

A lot of words to say not much explanation. It's fine to not go in depth on a read but this feels like he added content for content's sake.

But what I would like for people to do is evaluate my posts instead of labeling this slot as lockscum due to 1/2 of the heads. I get the impression that people are dismissing my input in favor of asserting an easier read on

Alisae

but we're both the same alignment. It feels easier and noncommittal to criticize only half of the mindset of this slot even though one head has a higher volume of posts that have garnered valid criticism. I support

Alisae's

self-assessment because I have been familiar with their progression and mentality on this site for years, and while their approach may be soundly assessed as manipulative or agenda-based, I haven't concluded their approach themselves as a concrete alignment. But the previous statement merely clouds other people's judgment on the slot, so I want people to take an active approach to this head rather than speak around this head for a stronger solve and idea on my POV.

I did the same thing pretty much and taly doesn't call me out for it? And this also feels weird in the context of taly not talking to alisae and telling em to calm down.

I get barely anything out of this long post.

Murder talk to me.

I'll let you and Taly talk about this.

[Purple Heart]

If you can't pull me out of this tunnel, you will die.
Good luck gamer.

skimmed a bit. before I go in and read everything with 100% attention, what color are Johnny and I, Ali?

I think its impossible for me to tell you tbh. This is our first game together and its still ongoing.
I don't know how you play. I don't know how you think. I don't know how you see the game. Read the thread and give some thought to it to see which colors you feel like you most identify with.

[kookiemonster]

I ..... feel like I'm the type that doesn't know wtf she's doing O_O
none of those describe my play here that well. Im kinda just running around and finding everyone scummy and complaining to Johnny about it 24/7

[kookiemonster]

maybe I'm pink? a combo of red and white?

[Purple Heart]

I could argue that's white.
I think you're new and you're still learning the game.
It took me a long time for me to get to the understanding of the game that I have and I still have a lot to learn about the game.
Only recently have I recognized how I've played and I'm starting to work on refining it.

If you don't know what represents you, its because how you play is natural to you. Its not a strategy you think about, its just how you play the game.
Give it some serious thought and consideration, or you can try out a color and think about how they would want to approach the game.

I can give you some players who I feel like repsent each color perfectly.
I think mastina is definitely white, she might have some black but she's definitely white.
I'm a black/blue player.
ABR is a black/red player though I feel like he might not be as black as he used to? Don't remember tbh its been a min since I played with him.
But if you want Red/Black for sure you do not need to look further then Lady Lambdadelta.
Taly's play here is super green.

he's not active anymore, but gobbledygook is a player who I strongly believe is mono blue.

no one jumps to my mind right away when I think of mono red or black.

[Purple Heart]

maybe I'm pink? a combo of red and white?

you're probably just red/white if thats how you feel.
I can see that.

[Purple Heart]

murder I actually think reasonates to me as mono blue

[MURDERCAT]

murder I actually think reasonates to me as mono blue

I didn't fully read your post but this is what I want to be just based on magic
I might be red/blue though I think it depends on how the game develops
I still want to go read that post when I am in the mood to think deeply about it
I'm waiting to see more from Infinity in regards to your wall as well

[kookiemonster]

I don't really think white describes me all that well. red only describes my stubbornness. Once my mind is set set, it doesn't ever change no matter what anyone says. I can get really aggressive if my mind is really set. If my mind never is set, then I end up being like a hazy blob of nothing :/

[Purple Heart]

that sounds really red!
Maybe you're red and your scumplay is black?

[kookiemonster]

Nevermind I just saw black. that describes me pretty well. I either live til endgame or I die day 1/2.

[kookiemonster]

Nevermind I just saw black. that describes me pretty well. I either live til endgame or I die day 1/2.

black describes both my town and scum play super well. I'm a hyper poster. not a big personality but the game either vibes well with me and I live forever or I die immediately.

[Infinity 324]

You talked about how some of my actions could make sense from a scum perspective. Cool. You can make a story to justify almost anything. What you barely touched on is how my actions are unlikely to make sense from a town perspective. Just a couple places where you say my behavior doesn't make a ton of sense from town--

Wrt heal tags, I wanted to see if other people would support my uncrowned TR so we could potentially get him onto the council. Sorta like a vanity vote. I didn't really expect it to go anywhere, but I wanted something a bit more official than "I TR uncrowned"

Originally, my plan for the council was for us to not doc me since I was such an obvious target. To discourage purple from killing me, I made it super obvious of my SR there. Maybe it wasn't the right play? I'm not sure. But obviously it's correct to not give scum info about who you're planning on doccing, and the fact that alisae tried to get info from me about that is clearly scum-motivated. I said I aspire to be blue, and I'm certainly not perfect about it--a lot of time I say things because they cross my mind as town, without a direct purpose. The fact that alisae goes from aspiring to be blue -> must mean he never says anything he shouldn't as town is super suspicious. My play also doesn't make sense from a blue scum player's perspective, so this whole thing about the MD post makes no sense.

I feel like alisae is only pushing me here because that's the only way e can get rid of me. E tried to get information from me at the end of d1 about who I was thinking about doccing, but decided on a safe flea kill since I didn't reveal my thought process

too

much. I don't necessarily think scum on the council kills someone on the council, since it is pretty risky. (esp. if the other council member is agreed on as town) However, I definitely think a kill outside the council makes sense if no scum is on the council.

[kookiemonster]

red doesn't describe me that well. I just love being a parrot that repeats my opinions but I am easily squashed by actual aggressive players like LLD or DK.

[Purple Heart]

btw when it comes to red for like, scumplay.
While I associate bussing as a "red" action due to the fact that bussing by nature makes the players who bussed look good as soon as the bus happens but that can fall off later.
There are player's I've been scum with who thrive off of bussing. While its not a philosophy I subscribe to, it used to be one that I did. I don't anymore because I think bussing is bad, at least when you're doing it for the sake of doing it.