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[Infinity 324]

murder I actually think reasonates to me as mono blue

I didn't fully read your post but this is what I want to be just based on magic
I might be red/blue though I think it depends on how the game develops
I still want to go read that post when I am in the mood to think deeply about it
I'm waiting to see more from Infinity in regards to your wall as well

I feel like you have a lot of green in you as well! Though maybe it's just because I have good synergy with you that I've experienced the green side

[MURDERCAT]

Ha that is true

[Purple Heart]

You talked about how some of my actions could make sense from a scum perspective. Cool. You can make a story to justify almost anything. What you barely touched on is how my actions are unlikely to make sense from a town perspective. Just a couple places where you say my behavior doesn't make a ton of sense from town--

Wrt heal tags, I wanted to see if other people would support my uncrowned TR so we could potentially get him onto the council. Sorta like a vanity vote. I didn't really expect it to go anywhere, but I wanted something a bit more official than "I TR uncrowned"

Originally, my plan for the council was for us to not doc me since I was such an obvious target. To discourage purple from killing me, I made it super obvious of my SR there. Maybe it wasn't the right play? I'm not sure. But obviously it's correct to not give scum info about who you're planning on doccing, and the fact that alisae tried to get info from me about that is clearly scum-motivated. I said I aspire to be blue, and I'm certainly not perfect about it--a lot of time I say things because they cross my mind as town, without a direct purpose. The fact that alisae goes from aspiring to be blue -> must mean he never says anything he shouldn't as town is super suspicious. My play also doesn't make sense from a blue scum player's perspective, so this whole thing about the MD post makes no sense.

I feel like alisae is only pushing me here because that's the only way e can get rid of me. E tried to get information from me at the end of d1 about who I was thinking about doccing, but decided on a safe flea kill since I didn't reveal my thought process

too

much. I don't necessarily think scum on the council kills someone on the council, since it is pretty risky. (esp. if the other council member is agreed on as town) However, I definitely think a kill outside the council makes sense if no scum is on the council.

This doesn't help me. It doesn't address my concerns.

Why did you want something a bit more official than "I TR Uncrowned"
How does

saying nothing

give information to scum about who you are doccing? I've asked you this too many times and you've still yet to address my point. I am having a lot of trouble understanding this.
I am saying you aspire to be blue, and I feel like if you aspire to be blue, then you should think about everything you're doing and think about it from the perspective of that color.

[kookiemonster]

btw when it comes to red for like, scumplay.
While I associate bussing as a "red" action due to the fact that bussing by nature makes the players who bussed look good as soon as the bus happens but that can fall off later.
There are player's I've been scum with who thrive off of bussing. While its not a philosophy I subscribe to, it used to be one that I did. I don't anymore because I think bussing is bad, at least when you're doing it for the sake of doing it.

I think I used to be a red scum player in that I don't know how to seem towny as scum besides trying to seem extremely angry(for example my tornadoes with LLD in Death Curse). I've come around to realize that town!me never actually gets that mad and expresses it. I'm more of a "lets bottle it up and make them eat their words with my green flip" kind of person. I've talked to quite some people and they've told me faking anger is definitely not the only way to seem towny. I think black describes me the best besides the fact that I'm not a big personality. I'm easily squashed.

[kookiemonster]

Ok for the case on infinity, I see it. Dunno if I buy it rn tho.

Today's council I want Purple and I to be on. I have yet to find another person that I TR this much.

All yesterday's council are total scumbuckets imo.

[Purple Heart]

btw when it comes to red for like, scumplay.
While I associate bussing as a "red" action due to the fact that bussing by nature makes the players who bussed look good as soon as the bus happens but that can fall off later.
There are player's I've been scum with who thrive off of bussing. While its not a philosophy I subscribe to, it used to be one that I did. I don't anymore because I think bussing is bad, at least when you're doing it for the sake of doing it.

I think I used to be a red scum player in that I don't know how to seem towny as scum besides trying to seem extremely angry(for example my tornadoes with LLD in Death Curse). I've come around to realize that town!me never actually gets that mad and expresses it. I'm more of a "lets bottle it up and make them eat their words with my green flip" kind of person. I've talked to quite some people and they've told me faking anger is definitely not the only way to seem towny. I think black describes me the best besides the fact that I'm not a big personality. I'm easily squashed.

black best describes big personalities though.

[kookiemonster]

black best describes big personalities though.

its the part that said, they either do well or they suffer greatly. that describes me way too well.

[Purple Heart]

black best describes big personalities though.

its the part that said, they either do well or they suffer greatly. that describes me way too well.

ah i see

[Infinity 324]

Why did you want something a bit more official than "I TR Uncrowned"

Cause I wanted to stick out a bit! and draw attention to it.

How does saying nothing give information to scum about who you are doccing?

It doesn't. But I still wanted my SR to be prominent and in the thread just in case. Yeah maybe it was wrong, when I see something scummy I'm really biased towards just saying it. But it's what I did, and you still haven't explained why it's more likely from aspiring blue scum than aspiring blue town who made a mistake. "Aspiring" means I'm not quite there yet.

It really doesn't feel like ali is trying to analyze my motivations, feels like e is just creating a narrative and then saying "but I could be wrong!" at the end of it.

@Noraa I'm good with you being on the council but I really don't want purple on it. That's my only request.

[Purple Heart]

It doesn't. But I still wanted my SR to be prominent and in the thread just in case. Yeah maybe it was wrong, when I see something scummy I'm really biased towards just saying it. But it's what I did, and you still haven't explained why it's more likely from aspiring blue scum than aspiring blue town who made a mistake. "Aspiring" means I'm not quite there yet.

It really doesn't feel like ali is trying to analyze my motivations, feels like e is just creating a narrative and then saying "but I could be wrong!" at the end of it.

So why are you saying I'm trying to get information out of you about who you want to doc?

[Infinity 324]

Murder do you not feel like gamma is being set up when everyone started the day SRing him? Yeah some of those players are town but it's a lot more likely that some are scum.

[Purple Heart]

It really doesn't feel like ali is trying to analyze my motivations, feels like e is just creating a narrative and then saying "but I could be wrong!" at the end of it.

I sorted you.
I identified what your motivations are.
I just need to explain them and how much sense it makes to me that you're scum.

[MURDERCAT]

Murder do you not feel like gamma is being set up when everyone started the day SRing him? Yeah some of those players are town but it's a lot more likely that some are scum.

You would have to convince me why flea kills purple and not you then

[MURDERCAT]

oop strike that, reverse it

[Purple Heart]

This is the way I play the game Infinity.
I plug in answers and see if they check out by trying to see if the events in the game can be explain if a person is scum.

I plugged you in and tried to see if the game makes sense for you to be scum.

It makes too much sense to me.

[kookiemonster]

This is the way I play the game Infinity.
I plug in answers and see if they check out by trying to see if the events in the game can be explain if a person is scum.

I plugged you in and tried to see if the game makes sense for you to be scum.

It makes too much sense to me.

do you have time to try to plug gamma in?

[Infinity 324]

So why are you saying I'm trying to get information out of you about who you want to doc?

If my gameplan was to set a lynch up on you, wouldn't it be better for you to shut up, wait to see what the kill was, and then see what I do at the start of the next phase?

@Purple Cause it could give scum info on who we’re going to doc?

how can you give information about something you haven't decided on yet?

I guess. I just like getting my thoughts out there so they’re in the thread. It’s more of a risk for scum!you to NK me if my SR on you is very visible.

if you're that worried about that insist on being protected.

^ especially this one. If I say "I don't want to be docced tonight", scum can just...shoot me. Yeah there's wine involved but then I have to come up with a totally different plan which is...not great.

[Purple Heart]

This is the way I play the game Infinity.
I plug in answers and see if they check out by trying to see if the events in the game can be explain if a person is scum.

I plugged you in and tried to see if the game makes sense for you to be scum.

It makes too much sense to me.

do you have time to try to plug gamma in?

I mean I would kinda like to see his D2?

[kookiemonster]

Infinity v Purple is difficult to read tho I'm p confident purple is town and my partner has only helped push that along.

[Infinity 324]

Murder do you not feel like gamma is being set up when everyone started the day SRing him? Yeah some of those players are town but it's a lot more likely that some are scum.

You would have to convince me why flea kills purple and not you then

Cause I might get docced and then be semi-confirmed town

[Purple Heart]

So why are you saying I'm trying to get information out of you about who you want to doc?

If my gameplan was to set a lynch up on you, wouldn't it be better for you to shut up, wait to see what the kill was, and then see what I do at the start of the next phase?

@Purple Cause it could give scum info on who we’re going to doc?

how can you give information about something you haven't decided on yet?

I guess. I just like getting my thoughts out there so they’re in the thread. It’s more of a risk for scum!you to NK me if my SR on you is very visible.

if you're that worried about that insist on being protected.

^ especially this one. If I say "I don't want to be docced tonight", scum can just...shoot me. Yeah there's wine involved but then I have to come up with a totally different plan which is...not great.

For post 1 you could just, not say anything.
Instead you posted "Why does town ever post this?" which comes across to me as an attack on my slot.

for quote 2, I'm asking this because you need to get the other players to agree on you to doc a player. You may have a plan, but that plan may not be agreed upon. Hence why its undecided. I'm not asking you to talk about your plan in this post, but rather I'm trying to question and figure out what exactly it is what you're doing.

for quote 3, I don't see how this is me trying to get information out of you about how you're thinking about using hte doctor.

I feel like if you were town, you would just drop the angle entirely.

[Purple Heart]

Murder do you not feel like gamma is being set up when everyone started the day SRing him? Yeah some of those players are town but it's a lot more likely that some are scum.

You would have to convince me why flea kills purple and not you then

Cause I might get docced and then be semi-confirmed town

Whats the difference between shooting a player who was protected by a doc and not killing

[MURDERCAT]

Murder do you not feel like gamma is being set up when everyone started the day SRing him? Yeah some of those players are town but it's a lot more likely that some are scum.

You would have to convince me why flea kills purple and not you then

Cause I might get docced and then be semi-confirmed town

That's the argument yeah, but when we were talking about doccing we never thought "tracy and purple might shoot flea"
Or at least it never occurred to me. So I understand that's the argument but I'm not sure I'm convinced by it yet

[Infinity 324]

Murder do you not feel like gamma is being set up when everyone started the day SRing him? Yeah some of those players are town but it's a lot more likely that some are scum.

You would have to convince me why flea kills purple and not you then

Cause I might get docced and then be semi-confirmed town

Whats the difference between shooting a player who was protected by a doc and not killing

Nothing? Except you don't know who gets docced so no killing is bad?

About expressing my scumread on you at the end of d1, I've repeated my argument a few times and don't know what else to say. I maybe shouldn't have done it, but since I wasn't planning on protecting myself I thought I'd make sure my opinion was prominent in the thread.

PEdit: yeah, it was an unlikely doc target though so that's why they chose it. If scum went for a weird kill like that we were never going to get the save off.

[Purple Heart]

Nothing? Except you don't know who gets docced so no killing is bad?

Correct! The difference is nothing.
If scum do not want to give the council information, they may not want to participate, and thus, they can no kill.

If multiple nights pass where no one dies, what do you think that means Infinity?