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Post Post #350 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 7:57 am

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Vote Count 2.1With 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate.

OutWorldER
(2): Rannygazoo, superbowl9
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(8): Flavor Leaf, Non lmh, OutWorldER, Alchemist21, Battle Mage, wiyvern, NoPowerOverMe, hessian

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Post Post #351 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:23 am

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VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I remeber him being the strongeest proponent of ben's elimination.
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Post Post #352 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:36 am

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In post 349, Battle Mage wrote:if OutworldER is scum, he has experienced teammates. Would probably imply at least 1 of Titus/Flavor Leaf as scum too.
Why do you think that?
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Post Post #353 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:37 am

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In post 351, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I remeber him being the strongeest proponent of ben's elimination.
What’s your take on Overworld’s hammer?
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Post Post #354 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:52 am

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In post 352, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 349, Battle Mage wrote:if OutworldER is scum, he has experienced teammates. Would probably imply at least 1 of Titus/Flavor Leaf as scum too.
Why do you think that?
he was super bombastic and confident on Day 1. I don't think he's the type to go balls-out like that, unless he was confident his team would carry the victory.

Plus I'm thinking experienced scum anyway, given a lesser known player got NKed.
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Post Post #355 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 9:53 am

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In post 353, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 351, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I remeber him being the strongeest proponent of ben's elimination.
What’s your take on Overworld’s hammer?
my take is he leveraged the fact I had done something like that in my last game with him, as a crutch to absolve himself of responsibility.

That doesn't imply he's necessarily scum, but it means it's not something I townread either.
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Post Post #356 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:55 am

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I would be down to elim him as well.
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Post Post #357 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:16 am

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What to make of wiyvern ignoring this game? I checked and he’s active in another current game.
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Post Post #358 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:46 am

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In post 355, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 353, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 351, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I remeber him being the strongeest proponent of ben's elimination.
What’s your take on Overworld’s hammer?
my take is he leveraged the fact I had done something like that in my last game with him, as a crutch to absolve himself of responsibility.

That doesn't imply he's necessarily scum, but it means it's not something I townread either.
If he’s done it before I would just think it’s impulsiveness on his part.
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Post Post #359 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:59 am

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In post 357, Rannygazoo wrote:What to make of wiyvern ignoring this game? I checked and he’s active in another current game.
yeah i'd clocked it too. NAGL.
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Post Post #360 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:00 pm

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In post 358, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 355, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 353, Alchemist21 wrote:
In post 351, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I remeber him being the strongeest proponent of ben's elimination.
What’s your take on Overworld’s hammer?
my take is he leveraged the fact I had done something like that in my last game with him, as a crutch to absolve himself of responsibility.

That doesn't imply he's necessarily scum, but it means it's not something I townread either.
If he’s done it before I would just think it’s impulsiveness on his part.
that's not what i said. i said he had seen ME do it before.
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Post Post #361 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:05 pm

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Ohhhhh. My bad.
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Post Post #362 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:20 pm

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In post 351, NoPowerOverMe wrote:VOTE: Flavor Leaf

I remeber him being the strongeest proponent of ben's elimination.
This is why I’m town.

Everyone sheeped me. I’m town who people saw me push, and might I add, I didn’t push Ben first, i pushed him after his weird posts in relation to me.

Scum came after I voted.
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Post Post #363 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:21 pm

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Wiveryn is a newer player, i believe. They were in a newbie slot with me recently, and they didn’t post much there, either. They were a mason.
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Post Post #364 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:23 pm

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In post 318, Titus wrote:
In post 314, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 301, OutWorldER wrote:Battle Mage is here too he knows.

but real talk at worst I hammered a VT who was playing anti-town and at best we caught scum.
real talk, i like you, but you hammered a town PR and didn't even let me post my shit first. :igmeou:
I think it's obvious him and FL are probably town given the reactions at EoD yesterday.
This is a weird play to make if scum.
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Post Post #365 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:37 pm

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Personally, I don’t think it’s impossible for Ben wagon to be all town.

However, off the wagon was killed, so I’m thinking 1 maybe 2 scum max on the wagon for clarity sake.

superbowl9, Titus, NoPowerOverMe - is the spot where one would be on that wagon.

SuperBowl kinda looks like irritated scum. And NPOM immediately went to come after me.

No way is there scum that isn’t off the wagon, so I’ll look there in a bit.

I don’t think Titus is scum here because the town reads she stated makes sense based on her skills with wagonomics.
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Post Post #366 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:38 pm

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Alchemist pushed the same thing I thought was off about Ben’s post, which I sheeped.

Super Bowl trying to jump off Ben looks rough.
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Post Post #367 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:39 pm

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Wait, that didn’t happen? They did that after Ben was faded. Never mind. Super Bowl looks a bit better for me now.
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Post Post #368 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:43 pm

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I read Battle Mage as town. I’ve never seen them scum before, but I like to trust my gut with them, and nothing seems out of place thus far.

Non Imh, meh. Don’t have a read here.

Hessian, same thing.

Ranny’s a bit weird. I’ve never played with them before. I remember slightly town reading them for the half claim surprise thing, but Titus thinks they are scum, it seems, so I think there’s a chance they are scum. I wouldn’t say they’re anywhere close to being my first pick, though.

Wiveryn, newer player. Nothing.

So there’s a lot of holes where scum could be at. I actually wanna say it’s probably more likely that the Ben wagon didn’t have much scum on it, if any. Fast wagons early happen because townies hop on and think it’s funny to get something deep.

If you don’t want a quick fade, don’t put the wagon up more.

NPOM actually looks bad because they put the E-2 vote, then Ben self voted.
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Post Post #369 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:44 pm

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I like Alchemist. I don’t think he’s done anything he couldn’t do as scum, but I actually like that he started the Ben wagon for the same reasons I wanted to.
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Post Post #370 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:49 pm

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At least 1 scum is probably on the Outer wagon right now, even if Outer is scum, which I don’t think he is.
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Post Post #371 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:15 pm

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In post 350, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
Vote Count 2.1With 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate.

OutWorldER
(2): Rannygazoo, superbowl9
superbowl9
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A self vote and quick hammer after my vote? If anything that makes me look good.

Your OMGUS sucks tho.
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Post Post #372 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:40 pm

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How does it make you look good?

You were the last vote to push Ben over where he effectively caused himself to die.

Ben even went after you.
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Post Post #373 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:41 pm

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That's just my reads based on Wagonomics, I'm not pushing to fade or anything.
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Post Post #374 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2020 2:45 pm

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And like, I had just had my thing with Ben a page before there was actual reason to push him as scum. I saw a vote, and went, yeah, this is the right slot to pressure.

Then he self voted. Of course he's gonna get hammered.
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