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[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh no i hope things get better soon

yea me too.

it's probably nothing but I'm incredibly paranoid

[Vaxkiller]

vanity wagon would be benhalkum

[DrippingGoofball]

pooooooooky why do you feel so weird ... ?

I am extremely anxious for personal reasons that have nothing to do with this game.

FIFTEEN YEARS!!!!


zing

[skitter30]

no i meant more: do you think it's an accurate assessment that scum!you avoids pooky?

How hard do you think it is to ingratiate oneself with Pooky? A little cutesy banter goes a long way with him.

ok if that isn't like a long-standing tradition that scum!you tends to avoid pooky i don't get where that thought comes from

[skitter30]

oh no i hope things get better soon

yea me too.

it's probably nothing but I'm incredibly paranoid

<3 i hope everything is ok

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

How hard do you think it is to ingratiate oneself with Pooky? A little cutesy banter goes a long way with him.

except when you do it in Death Curse and I SR you cuz your normal routine with me is to try to kill me with a hammer. :3

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB would you say you've mellowed over the last few years?

I'm dumber

I don't know about mellow?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

<3 i hope everything is ok

thx ^^

there is a fairly high probability I am being super dumb and worrying about nothing so I'm gonna just believe that :3

[DrippingGoofball]

How hard do you think it is to ingratiate oneself with Pooky? A little cutesy banter goes a long way with him.

except when you do it in Death Curse and I SR you cuz your normal routine with me is to try to kill me with a hammer. :3

People learn and/or it's still early in the game LOL

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

your default thing to do as town is to try to murder me with a hammer for "being scum".

it's harder for you to try to murder me with a hammer when you know I'm green.

Hence you're avoiding me cuz you don't want to do a fake hammer chase and look transparently fake :3

[fferyllt]

DGB would you say you've mellowed over the last few years?

I'm dumber

I don't know about mellow?

You scared the crap out of me in a couple games. I'm not feeling the Eye of Sauron or the whir of the scumputer here. Trying to decide if I should be happy about that.

[Prism]

No, I have issues downstream of it and I'm trying to figure out whether or not it's going to be clarifying to keep it real on and am mostly coming up as no

It's unclear to me exactly what you mean by "downstream" here, my guess is the minutia discussion where I took issue with how you characterized my point.

I also never made clear exactly why I chose to vote you at that time, only clarified the timing and that I didn't like your posts before it. The timing came because I didn't think you were genuinely trying to see my viewpoint, only to defeat it if you could. Assuming it was just for asking is natural but I didn't like the follow up and I definitely didn't like your way-too-strong restatement of my point that came after it.

Part of me wondered if you thought me an easy target after Illicit, not necessarily to get wagoned but to at least score points off of. I will quickly put it to rest.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Vote Count 1.02

Kofi Cockburn, University of Illinois, Present

With 13 alive, it requires 7 to eliminate

Vaxkiller(4) - Cabd, Elements, Mod Pizza, Syryana
Elements(2) - Vaxkiller, skitter30
borkjerfkin(1) - Prism
Prism(1) - petapan
DrippingGoofball(1) - PookyTheMagicalBear

Not Voting(4): DrippingGoofball, benhalkum,fferylit, borkerfkin

Day ends in ends in (expired on 2020-12-07 17:24:07) or when an elimination occurs

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

FIFTEEN YEARS!!!!


zing

I remember our conversations a decade ago my dear, it's remarkable how you've stayed so young at heart. <3

[DrippingGoofball]

your default thing to do as town is to try to murder me with a hammer for "being scum".

it's harder for you to try to murder me with a hammer when you know I'm green.

Hence you're avoiding me cuz you don't want to do a fake hammer chase and look transparently fake :3

That's a very egocentric view of my game behavior. I'm failing to find a way to say this that won't make you feel bad to some degree, I hope you don't take it personally, but you're not at the center of my thoughts in this game.

[DrippingGoofball]

FIFTEEN YEARS!!!!


zing

I remember our conversations a decade ago my dear, it's remarkable how you've stayed so young at heart. <3

I'm close to that stage of life where I'm getting younger and younger

<3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

That's a very egocentric view of my game behavior. I'm failing to find a way to say this that won't make you feel bad to some degree, I hope you don't take it personally, but you're not at the center of my thoughts in this game.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB would you say you've mellowed over the last few years?

I'm dumber

I don't know about mellow?

You scared the crap out of me in a couple games. I'm not feeling the Eye of Sauron or the whir of the scumputer here. Trying to decide if I should be happy about that.

I need time to shine... or to be completely played by scum https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84723

[borkjerfkin]

The timing came because I didn't think you were genuinely trying to see my viewpoint, only to defeat it if you could. Assuming it was just for asking is natural but I didn't like the follow up

Everything you're coming up with now is what I was trying to get at then and now I'm left to wonder why you're clarifying it now and not then, especially since a lot of it is revisionist by definition in that it happened after 233

I mean you came in w/ all guns blazing after my request for clarification and my interpretation of the interaction was extremely colored by that, and I didn't like how you called me disingenuous in 253, especially considering you acknowledge you weren't forthcoming about 233 which what I was trying to get to.

[borkjerfkin]

I like pooky p17-20

[borkjerfkin]

their vote on vax is gross and exactly what i'd expect from scum

Neither you nor I liked Vax's entrance either, though you were willing to give them the benefit of the doubt for playstyle.

Vax's entrance is #121-#128. They had one more post in #149 to try a wagon vote on ffery. Elements voted them in #150.

This timeline makes me tilt my head. When you said "entrance" did you mean strictly the first 1/2 posts, only for the next 3/4 to be better?

vax ( i mean this in the nicest possible way) had a bit of a gross entrance and kinda reads like flipbait ... which elements then kinda tried to actualize in a way that i imagine scum would try to do if he is indeed town

like it's a lazy vote in an icky readslist and i like exactly none of it

disliked vax's posts through like 149 or so, but i have in my head from somewhere that vax's play kinda just looks like that, so although i didn't like it, i didn't read it as much ai tbh

If this were some other player than vax w/ their ISO up to 149 as it is, would you be scumreading elements for pushing them?

[Prism]

I guess we're going into the weeds again.

I was intentionally vague with my vote in 233. I don't think I have to write a treatise on why I'd do this.

Your response was 239, which both strawmans my point about Elements and assumes that my vote is just for asking. These are two different points. The former is outright bad and is what I meant about being more concerned with scoring points off me. The latter is a bad assumption but not that scummy.

My 242 addresses both of these separately while hinting that it wasn't just for asking. I could have clarified immediately exactly why I

did

vote you, but the strawman was a lot more concerning to me and I wanted to engage further.

Your 249 asks directly what I am saying. It asks why you not grokking my point is scummy. I never said you not grokking it was scummy, this is again a bad leading question that I found disingenuous. From a more generous viewpoint it's just a wrong assumption given limited information. My 253 is saying that 239, the post I claimed was a strawman (ie. not grokking my point correctly), came after my vote.

Now that the conversation over my vote is over it was worth making more clear exactly why I voted you. For revisionism, we'll see when I flip, no time machine here.

[Prism]

The former is outright bad and is what I meant about being more concerned with scoring points off me.

I already got this feeling outright from the arbitrary trio claim, and didn't like the followup with the crux, but 239 and the strawman is when that vote was sealed.

[Prism]

Also, while I didn't explain the progression on my vote fully until now, I absolutely did try to restate the point about Elements to make it more clear to you and why I thought your restatement was a strongman: 273 is the clearest restatement.

I also hinted at exactly the points I'm making now w/ 274 to Cabd.

[skitter30]

If this were some other player than vax w/ their ISO up to 149 as it is, would you be scumreading elements for pushing them?

sorry, i'm not super following the question