Mini Normal 2180 | Fake Peoples | Endgame

[Gamma Emerald]

so, iv is my strongest scumread currently. unfortunately, he has the bad case of lurk, my vote isn't making him play, and i don't think my persuasion skills are good enough to convince the town to start voting him on the basis of ~nothing~. so my vote on him is wasting away.

Is your read literally just based on him lurking?

[innocentvillager]

so, iv is my strongest scumread currently. unfortunately, he has the bad case of lurk, my vote isn't making him play, and i don't think my persuasion skills are good enough to convince the town to start voting him on the basis of ~nothing~. so my vote on him is wasting away.

Is your read literally just based on him lurking?

nope, it's not! he talks about it later in your catchup

[Noraa]

... i just, am trying to envision this world but cannot

why not?

[Gamma Emerald]

Darius is town for postings on page 23

[Gamma Emerald]

Datisi *
Wtf, autocorrect >:(

[Gamma Emerald]

GIVE ME ONE MORE VOTE SWEET JESUS ONE MORE VOTE ONE MORE FOR A CLAIM!!!!

Why the fuck is the claim so important to you?

@ABR

[innocentvillager]

Darius was pretty townie, yeah

... i just, am trying to envision this world but cannot

why not?

ugh stop it with these one liners, you're supposed to be more defensive

can someone else tell me if im just picking at nothing? @datisi maybe for a start?

[Gamma Emerald]

My Noraa-Cakez-unwnd townblock still exists fyi

I don't even disagree with these reads, but for some reason I HATE this post.

It feels reachy and overeager.

Didn’t you yourself try to form a townblock in MafiaSunny?
Kinda hypocritical don’t you think?

[Albert B. Rampage]

GIVE ME ONE MORE VOTE SWEET JESUS ONE MORE VOTE ONE MORE FOR A CLAIM!!!!

Why the fuck is the claim so important to you?

@ABR

I think it gives a lot of info and progresses the game, I wrote a MD article about it, its in my wiki

[Gamma Emerald]

that I will drop the moment you slip up if ur scum

o_rly

[Gamma Emerald]

Fair enough @ABR
I was concerned about rolefishing FYI

[Noraa]

Ok so here is my take on Shoshin.
Everyone SRed her for asking pretty empty questions at the beginning. That is NOT a scum tell for her. I believe, tho I am not 100% sure, that she will do that as either alignment.
Looking back, I think maybe I slightly agree she started asking them a little too early for me to feel comfortable about it.
But still, using her own meta, overall, at that time she was a null town lean.
Then I started realizing she had no reads.
This is not that crazily uncommon on this site at that stage but for shoshin its not really her town meta at all.
Most of her posts were fluffy and defensive and that's just waaaay out of her town meta.
I started doing a 180 but ABR's aggressive ass pushes gave me lots of pause.
I feel like im going to get wagoned tomorrow regardless of the shoshin flip.
Thats not the end of the world but here I have explained my progression and hope people will understand how I approached this.

[VP Baltar]

My Noraa-Cakez-unwnd townblock still exists fyi

I don't even disagree with these reads, but for some reason I HATE this post.

It feels reachy and overeager.

Didn’t you yourself try to form a townblock in MafiaSunny?
Kinda hypocritical don’t you think?

I did, but I was Friendly Neighbor in that game and was kind of winking at that early on because I knew I'd be confirmed town by D2. Unless you're claiming FN here.....

[Noraa]

ugh stop it with these one liners, you're supposed to be more defensive

can someone else tell me if im just picking at nothing? @datisi maybe for a start?

this post reads .... very bad.

[Datisi]

Darius is town for postings on page 23

fun fact, this is the second time someone called me darius.

... i just, am trying to envision this world but cannot

why not?

ugh stop it with these one liners, you're supposed to be more defensive

can someone else tell me if im just picking at nothing? @datisi maybe for a start?

i dunno lol i think noraa's kinda scummy too

[VP Baltar]

I feel like im going to get wagoned tomorrow regardless of the shoshin flip.

Huh?

[Noraa]

that I will drop the moment you slip up if ur scum

o_rly

very calm and composed. one of the few times im willing to let go of my paranoia and town block u. Gamma if ur scum this game, u will break my heart.

[Noraa]

I feel like im going to get wagoned tomorrow regardless of the shoshin flip.

Huh?

Cuz ABR lmfao.

[Gamma Emerald]

that is why this kinda behaviour makes me think that if iv is scum, shoshin isn't, because in that world, the game is going smoothly without his presence. he doesn't *need* to actually post anything meaningful. him voting shoshin definitely won't discourage albert from pushing her through, but it's not a vote that gives towncred if she flips red?

Could you re-explain this?

[Gamma Emerald]

Datisi I like your positioning on me tbh

I like that you scumread me for some reason, you’re unknowingly pocketing me by doing so yet you are

it feels easier to appeal to me in your spot by totally switching up your playstyle or approach

but instead, you’re grilled me and having interesting takes and not clearly pushing an agenda

Debating whether or not I should townread this post

[Datisi]

that is why this kinda behaviour makes me think that if iv is scum, shoshin isn't, because in that world, the game is going smoothly without his presence. he doesn't *need* to actually post anything meaningful. him voting shoshin definitely won't discourage albert from pushing her through, but it's not a vote that gives towncred if she flips red?

Could you re-explain this?

the only time i've seen scum!iv act like this - mostly lurking and posting random stuff that's not influencing the game in the slightest - was on day two of mini normal 2175. we had set up a bus where i would be getting a lot of towncred if he flipped, so he didn't have to actually try to influence the game (i.e. try to save himself from getting executed) because it was going in a good direction for his faction.

if he's scum here, i have a feeling the circumstances are similar - he doesn't need to be influencing the game because it's already going in a good direction for him. and what would that mean? the current biggest wagon that's threatening to get hammered is town. possibly its main driver also being town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Noraa trying to incept doubt from the sidelines while also saying Shoshin isn't necessarily town is noted.

Is this about 628/630 or something more
Not convinced if the former

[SirCakez]

UNVOTE:
Way too early for a fucking hammer

[Gamma Emerald]

shoshin/iv/__
is it really just that easy?

lol there's no way this is a real solve right

Yeah iirc when I was reading the first few pages I thought “IV and shoshin probably aren’t scum by how this is playing out”
Noraa how much weight do you put on associatives D1?

[Albert B. Rampage]

UNVOTE:
Way too early for a fucking hammer

i think if someone hammers at this point and shoshin is town (unlikely), we trade 1 for 1.

well noraa you can vote shoshin now if it pleases you