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[hessian]

Hi, I'm back. I've skimmed a bit but have a lot to catch up on. I prefer to process information chronologically, so I'm going to start by looking back at Day 1. In the interest of time, I'll focus my efforts on re-reading benhalkum's interactions. Once I'm done with that, I'll hopefully be able to process Day 2 a couple pages at a time.

[Titus]

Flavor, go ahead and move to NPOM. I want to see what happens there. I don't think a lynch in my scumpool is going to take until the scum actually start posting or I need to see where I am wrong.

[Rannygazoo]

I’ll park my vote and move it if the wagon gets too high too early. VOTE: superbowl9

[TheGoldenParadox]

Vote Count 2.5

With 11 votes in play, it takes 6 to eliminate.

superbowl9

(3): Titus, Flavor Leaf, Rannygazoo

NoPowerOverMe

(3): OutWorldER, Alchemist21, Battle Mage

OutWorldER

(1): superbowl9

Flavor Leaf

(1): NoPowerOverMe

Not Voting

(3): wiyvern, hessian, Non lmh

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-12-08 11:55:42).

Mod notes:

I am using Thesp's automated votecounter - please notify me if there are any errors.
Non lmh, wiyvern, and hessian have (expired on 2020-12-01 11:59:58) to post substansive content before I begin to search for a replacement.

[Titus]

Interesting. I suggest maybe shutting down the superbowl9 wagon and Ranny jumps on. I'm not sure what to think given he was on Nom before. That doesn't make sense in an S v S world.

If I am wrong on NPOM, that change is suspect.

[Titus]

Non Imh is getting subbed out in another game as well. His inactivity is site wide and less likely to be AI.

[Rannygazoo]

I didn’t vote before because I didn’t want to contribute to another quickhammer. If you’re think of moving the wagon, there’s no harm.

[hessian]

I’m back from a more in-depth skim of Day 1. A bit busy at the minute but still wanted to get my thoughts down.

The main thing I checked was the stated motives of the votes on benhalkum’s wagon.
Alchemist21 and Flavor Leaf's votes are fine with me. They were the earliest votes, and the reasoning was solid.
Titus’ vote (#241) for benhalkum was iffy; the stated reason was that benhalkum was “outright shad[ing]” her in #47. I thought #47 was fine. That being said, she soon followed up with other reasons for being suspicious of benhalkum, so this gets a pass from me.
superbowl9 didn’t provide any reasoning. NoPowerOverMe said he was sheeping Flavor Leaf and Titus — not sure how acceptable that is in site meta, but I’m suspicious of it for now.
As for OutWorldER’s vote — I don’t think a quick hammer is justified in any circumstance. Really difficult for me to see any town motivation there.
I'm fine with the wagons on superbowl9, NoPowerOverMe, and OutWorldER. VOTE: superbowl9

This is E-2.

I didn’t get much out of benhalkum’s analysis; might just be a playstyle mismatch, but I couldn’t get into the thought process behind some of the decisions and posts he made, so I’m de-prioritizing me spending more time analyzing his posts.

Other thoughts:
I’m a little suspicious of Battle Mage. My impression was that he talked a lot about theory, and for the most part I found his content interesting. But it did seem like he contributed to the bogging down of the game during the “Rannygazoo RVS vote” and “Titus brash play” discussions. I’m inclined to believe this is just his meta unless someone informs me otherwise, though.

At some point around the #90 - #100 stretch, NoPowerOverMe, Alchemist21, and superbowl9 indicated that they leaned town on Titus. Titus then said she leaned town on those three, without any explanation.

Andresvmb seemed to townread Titus.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I am leaning scum on sb9 based on his recent behavior.

VOTE: Superbowl 9

[NoPowerOverMe]

E1

[Rannygazoo]

Good but also sigh UNVOTE:

At least two slots haven’t posted all day. (Im not counting wyvern as having posted). Let’s not end the day yet.

[hessian]

Yikes, was going to unvote but Rannygazoo beat me to it.

[NoPowerOverMe]

If we get another quickhammer they are definitely scum.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Regardless if alignment.

[superbowl9]

I'll claim because I'm not going to make much of an effort to shake the wagon off, I'm FV (gave to titus). I'm fine if you want to hammer as well, already pretty much said everything I wanted to about the game

[superbowl9]

The one thing I will reiterate is please do not try to continue to pick scum off that ben wagon now that you've slightly narrowed POE, I think that will only get us into further trouble. Keep an eye on titus and BM if they're still alive as well.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Yeah I've played with Town super and this is not Town super.

[superbowl9]

LOL hopefully as people play more with me they will realize that my style of play isn't really consistent

[Battle Mage]

I’m a little suspicious of Battle Mage.

OMGUS

Andresvmb seemed to townread Titus.

not exactly. I can confirm, using my super neighbour powers, that Andresvmb was pretty wary of Titus after the Ben-flip. However his solve was:

Superbowl-Hessian-Flavor Leaf

[Battle Mage]

I'll claim because I'm not going to make much of an effort to shake the wagon off, I'm FV (gave to titus). I'm fine if you want to hammer as well, already pretty much said everything I wanted to about the game

you're claiming

town

fruit vendor...and you gave fruit to Titus!? eh I don't like that matey

[Battle Mage]

Yikes, was going to unvote but Rannygazoo beat me to it.

*sigh* it is Hessian

lucky Titus is protecting you...

[Titus]

I'll claim because I'm not going to make much of an effort to shake the wagon off, I'm FV (gave to titus). I'm fine if you want to hammer as well, already pretty much said everything I wanted to about the game

you're claiming

town

fruit vendor...and you gave fruit to Titus!? eh I don't like that matey

Why not?

[Battle Mage]

I feel like if NPOM is town here, scum would have just railroaded him? the lack of pressure makes me think he's scum, or maybe he's town and scum is incompetent.

[Titus]

I feel like if NPOM is town here, scum would have just railroaded him? the lack of pressure makes me think he's scum, or maybe he's town and scum is incompetent.

Then why did you just shade superbowl?

[Battle Mage]

I'll claim because I'm not going to make much of an effort to shake the wagon off, I'm FV (gave to titus). I'm fine if you want to hammer as well, already pretty much said everything I wanted to about the game

you're claiming

town

fruit vendor...and you gave fruit to Titus!? eh I don't like that matey

Why not?

you protested a lot about being NKed N1 in all your games. You're the last person I'm giving fruit as a town fruit vendor - isn't the whole idea of the role to target someone unlikely to be killed?

of course a scum fruit vendor would know you wouldnt die