Mini 572 - Packrats (game over)

[hasdgfas]

You going to mod something else soon Ether?

I promised I'd mod a sequel to Meta uPick. Feel free to join that; someone's gonna need to send a guideline that keeps lurkers like Flameaxe and SSK in line.

pre-/in?

[Ether]

The QuickTopic is here.

Aside from that, here are the PMs I've received:

March 8, eldarad

From: eldarad
To: Y
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:14 pm

Y, I am

not

sending this message to Mizzy. Please do not copy her into the responses you give to me.
[Since we're talking via PM's, I'll post all of our conversation in one go to give to Ether on AIM once we've finished (rather than flooding Ether's inbox with individual PMs))]

How sure are we that Mizzy is on our side? I'm getting a bit suspicious...

Here's another thing: eldarad is Alpha, I'm Beta and Mizzy is Psi. What could that mean?

Alpha could be something similar to a godfather, maybe?

If my role PM means much, it means that I am the equivalent to a "goon" and you two have something more.

Well, maybe. But at the same time, there is nothing in my role PM that suggests I have something "more".

So why are you "psi"? Are you a telepath, Mizzy? Maybe if you die we lose our daytalking?

Sheesh, I hope that's not the case, maybe I'm an encryptor? I best not die, then.

You probably need some background to this. Encryptor is a role in 'Pick Your Poison 2' mafia that allowed the scum to daytalk.
Now, so far there's nothing really odd.
But then, she suddenly got defensive...and we're on the same team (aren't we?!)

2. There's at least one other killer going arround (Unless one of you asked for strappado to die).

Nope, none of us got to kill, and I would like to point out that it CAN'T be a wolf killing yet because of the wolfsbane.

Why did she need to point that out?

What I meant more was that the monsters in the movie were townsfolk dressed up as monsters but everyone else assumed they were real monsters. Maybe there are no wolves and just normal scummers, was what I was getting at.

I'm actually saying what you did but in a different way.

I'm saying that there's no evidence that the kills were made by anyone other than people because the town is made up of people and wolves can't get in.

The bolded sentence is what people say in-thread when they are defending themselves. But there's no need to defend against your scumbuddies...

I'm being ultra-paranoid I know, but the flavour also makes me think.
I am the Alpha, you are the Beta. Mizzy "is just sort of there--

let's call her a Psi

."

But there was that girl who was running around shouting about werewolves earlier. She's also not here

Who is this girl? Maybe she is not a werewolf, but a psychic,

so she can hear us talking...

Also, I wonder whether Mizzy's post 78 in-thread is an attempt to warn the town without tipping us off. That would explain why she was so defensive when I asked her about it.

~~~
I don't propose to do anything about this yet, but I do think we need to consider it.
Thoughts? Comments?

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From: Y
To: eldarad
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:42 pm

I'm passing this directly to you, without a copy to Ether.

It's interesting. A psi could be some one who can communicate without being part of the group.

I wouldn't rule out the possibility of scum inside scum. I had it in Cultural Revolution a long time ago (We were a cult, but two out of us were actually SKs).

We'll keep an eye on her, see if we can get her to slip.

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IM History with buddy Tiasale
08 March 2008
UT Eldarad (14:18:46): hi Mizzy
Tiasale (14:18:58): Hihi!
UT Eldarad (14:19:36): any thoughts on Packrats?
Tiasale (14:19:58): Elmo worries me
UT Eldarad (14:20:03): how so?
Tiasale (14:20:08): He's usually obvtown when he is town
Tiasale (14:20:27): And is good st scumhunting
UT Eldarad (14:20:36): so...do you think there are 2 scumgroups?
UT Eldarad (14:20:45): or scum + SK?
Tiasale (14:20:54): I think a scum + sk is more likely
Tiasale (14:21:28): Or maybe he was a suicider
UT Eldarad (14:22:20): remind me how a suicider works...
Tiasale (14:22:46): A role where someone always suicides at a certain point
Tiasale (14:23:15): usually N1 or D2
UT Eldarad (14:25:07): is it known by another name? (i'm looking it up in Wiki...)
Tiasale (14:25:29): Hrm, lemme check
Tiasale (14:31:21): Hmm not in the list
Tiasale (14:31:27): I think it's in the flash movie though
UT Eldarad (14:31:36): OK
Tiasale (14:33:00): It was something we played with a lot in live Mafia
Tiasale (14:33:19): http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... _Countdown
Tiasale (14:33:21): Kinda like that
Tiasale (14:33:28): but no bomb, just a suicide

March 9, eldarad

I'm starting to feel some kind of connection between Mizzy and Capricious.

He's sure about there being werewolves, Mizzy comments on it. They both raised the wolfbane thing in public, but Capricious said nothing when Mizzy talked about it.

Just a feeling. What do you think?

I agree that post 118 was really...odd.
I don't think there is a connection so much as Mizzy has a vested interest in *something* but without knowing her win condition I don't know what.

This is the second time that she has told the town that werewolves are not the real threat.
We really need to push for a Capri lynch on quicktopic so that Mizzy has no way out. If we force her to hammer, we even have an excuse to push for her lynch tomorrow. (lol, I'm so evil...)

Chances are she has a post restriction (otherwise she could just say "Y and eldarad are werewolves. I know because I can read their daytalk") so that if we attack her in-thread she will struggle to defend herself. Worth thinking about in future I think.

Although it's also worth saying that I could be utterly wrong here...

Worst case scenario - We get her and get confirmed.

Then they sorta got bored with it.

[Skruffs]

Eh, I think I would follow dead Yos-town's advice in the future though as town. Think of it as an exception to the rule for me. Yos is just that good .

No, I just have a good read on you lately.

[MeMe]

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