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Post Post #800 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 2:14 pm

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In post 793, Rannygazoo wrote:I'm townreading BM because he's mirroring my thoughts in a way that seems natural.

I expressed the same sentiment about day end as town in Mini Theme 2172 and got pilloried for it. https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12222345 Might be interesting to go back now and look at who was scum on my wagon in that game.
that's fair. both dead town players had me as top townread too. :cool:
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Post Post #801 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:13 pm

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In post 795, Titus wrote:not telling us who is scum
Okay that's actually not true. ISO me and you'll find MANY recent instances where I tell you who I think is scum, town, and what my overall game read is.
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Post Post #802 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 3:15 pm

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Dont get me wrong I'm not saying you shouldn't SR me but not pushing =/= not providing
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Post Post #803 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 4:34 pm

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--wiyvern has requested replacement.
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Post Post #804 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:30 pm

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--JohnnyFarrar replaces wiyvern.
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Post Post #806 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:34 pm

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Allo flav. Booting up a computer for catchups brb
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Post Post #807 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:34 pm

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I feel like there was only like 1 active scum player and the lurkers were scum, because I usually don’t gain this level of disinterest, which means it was likely a bunch of townies and 1 scum player rambling circular WIFOM left and right, so it was impossible to tell the difference between town rambling and scum rambling because no associatives to play off. Yes, there were some stuff day 1, but nothing new has happened, ya know.

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Post Post #808 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:34 pm

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I feel like there was only like 1 active scum player and the lurkers were scum, because I usually don’t gain this level of disinterest, which means it was likely a bunch of townies and 1 scum player rambling circular WIFOM left and right, so it was impossible to tell the difference between town rambling and scum rambling because no associatives to play off. Yes, there were some stuff day 1, but nothing new has happened, ya know.

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Post Post #809 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:37 pm

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Oh I intend to. I'm only in 2 games rn so my effort isn't very divided at all. Did our boy claim before dying d1? Seems a shame to lose that power that early
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Post Post #810 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:38 pm

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He self voted to E-1 followed by a quick ish hammer.
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Post Post #811 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 6:41 pm

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oh fuck ok. Computer's up now so expect like 30 posts incoming. and gifs.
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Post Post #812 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:05 pm

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To start, I'm scared of Titus and Flavy if scum based on past experience so if I waffle anywhere it'll be there. Also I'm feeling manic tonight so if anyone wants to just chat I'll probably be on all night. I'm gonna do this two pages at a time unless there's a really meaty one

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In post 17, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 14, Rannygazoo wrote:IIRC she did a similar trolly maneuver in Mini Theme 2172
VOTE: Rannygazoo
+1 town point for BM
In post 21, Flavor Leaf wrote:Sup, I’m Pretentious.
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In post 32, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 30, Battle Mage wrote:I'm happy for you to do whatever you choose. But I like to give my 2 cents.
I didn't mean to discourage you. Sorry if I gave you that impression.
Lord help these two if they're partners because they're awkward as fuck
In post 47, benhalkum wrote:
In post 44, Titus wrote:
In post 42, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 38, Titus wrote:
In post 36, Battle Mage wrote:my initial suggestion would be...it's very early to draw a conclusion one way or another about Titus' alignment in this game, especially based on the 1-game meta cited and given she only has a couple of non-AI posts.
And this needed saying because?

All you're doing is stopping scum from whiteknighting me based on flimsy evidence and exposing themselves.
...what's the reason behind your entrance being a tad on the aggressive side? I've previously known you to be a lot more moderate and composed as town.

To actually respond to your point, I didn't stop anyone doing anything, by giving a view on something which had already happened.
I'm in a no bullshit mood and I am sick of getting nightkilled day one and then praying people solve without me.
Sick of being night killed on day one but ok with making yourself a target?

I mean, unless you know you're safe at night
Did you think about this before you said it? Because I think being visibly worried about nk is more of a towntell.
In post 49, Titus wrote:
In post 47, benhalkum wrote:
In post 44, Titus wrote:
In post 42, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 38, Titus wrote:
In post 36, Battle Mage wrote:my initial suggestion would be...it's very early to draw a conclusion one way or another about Titus' alignment in this game, especially based on the 1-game meta cited and given she only has a couple of non-AI posts.
And this needed saying because?

All you're doing is stopping scum from whiteknighting me based on flimsy evidence and exposing themselves.
...what's the reason behind your entrance being a tad on the aggressive side? I've previously known you to be a lot more moderate and composed as town.

To actually respond to your point, I didn't stop anyone doing anything, by giving a view on something which had already happened.
I'm in a no bullshit mood and I am sick of getting nightkilled day one and then praying people solve without me.
Sick of being night killed on day one but ok with making yourself a target?

I mean, unless you know you're safe at night
Well, if I am making myself a target, then I am obvtowning.

However, no one nightkills the class know it all.

So therefore my goal is to be right, vocal and brash. This prevents scum from lynching or killing me. Well if they do, town will know exactly where I stand and can sheep it.
Yeah this is town.
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Post Post #813 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 7:36 pm

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Literal internet outage the one time I use a computer
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Post Post #814 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:22 pm

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Lost my p3 and p4 post to internet gremlins so I'm just going to summarize and you can use your imagination

Titus continues to look town

BM is antagonizing Titus, which is weird to me. Not AI weird, just regular weird.

Ben I quoted a bunch and asked questions but I realize he's dead now so...
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Post Post #815 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:47 pm

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Getting lazier now internet fucked me.
In post 103, Flavor Leaf wrote:You guys want me to claim my negative utility or have it surprise you later?
How similar to mine in that one game?

the rest of p5 just kind of full of people saying things I agree with.
In post 130, Flavor Leaf wrote:At least you town read me, so that’s good.
First flavor post I'm not into
In post 146, superbowl9 wrote:Nah i legitimately just forgot, i still don’t even really remember it to be completely honest, last two games with titus she was a weird 3P half-town thing and we teamed up and iirc she was town in some other game? Idk I don’t keep track of games that hard because i don’t value meta that much
sounds memorable. I'm actually a little more suspicious of your general defensiveness around this relatively minor point.

/p6
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Post Post #816 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:09 am

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Super not a fan of Ben's sudden wagon. Flavy looks sus for starting and then hanging back and watching. Titus looks like she's talking herself into it.
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Post Post #817 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:35 am

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Up through p10 my running theory is flavy needs some spice in his life and playing scum has lost its pleasure because he feels nothing after a run of recent success. We need to reintroduce the danger to make him feel alive

Superb got killed for acting like this in a recent game that might still be going so I'll just say I'm not voting there without sorrento l something more

Leaving alchy for now

Nopom (napalm as my phone will undoubtedly auto correct every time) looks bad here

Ranny skeeves me the eff out but I can't tell if it's just their style or what. Call it gut
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Post Post #818 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:46 am

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MAN I just got to the hammer and I see why no one's posting. That sucked. Never mind it's a complete 180 from outer earlier stated read on ben and just terrible for the pace of the game, the attitude and reasoning behind it was just whack.

Ugh.
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Post Post #819 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:54 am

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In post 341, Titus wrote:The time between the posts supports the conclusion that OutWorldER did a fast reread.
Ugh I hate it when people are this townie
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Post Post #820 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 2:56 am

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In post 349, Battle Mage wrote:if OutworldER is scum, he has experienced teammates. Would probably imply at least 1 of Titus/Flavor Leaf as scum too.
Or yourself, tho I was thinking the only way Titus is scum is if outtie is too
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Post Post #821 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:06 am

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In post 401, OutWorldER wrote:I actually feel worse about NPOM due to the fact that he's just kind of ignoring me and the main topic of discussion to push FL. Gives me bad vibes
Napalm is ignoring an easy place to park their vote and instead going after one of the more visibly vocal and powerful players in this game and you think that's scum motivated? Unless he's dead confident (or partners with someone already voting you) i think napalm is town here
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Post Post #822 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:22 am

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In post 474, Flavor Leaf wrote:I have had absolutely zero OMGUS this game.

Having actual reasons to vote someone who is going against you is not OMGUS. OMGUS is voting or pushing someone specifically because they pushed you.
This argument is the most boring and asinine part of this game so far
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Post Post #823 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:41 am

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In post 557, Flavor Leaf wrote:Titus played me correctly if she is scum here
Feeling this in my bones
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Post Post #824 (ISO) » Tue Dec 01, 2020 3:49 am

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In post 574, Rannygazoo wrote:I don’t feel like enough has been said about why Andres was nightkilled.

The fact that it was him, relatively inactive, and not someone driving the game hints that 1) his few posts were right, and 2) there’s a more experienced player on the scum team. The only real scumread he had was superbowl9. I know it’s WIFOM, but when I read a finished game and look at the mafia chat and why they chose their targets, usually the good wine is firmly in front of me.
This post will be a tell for me with more flips so I'm just gonna save it here.
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