Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

[Klyne]

Was thinking some good thoughts but most of them come to

Well does Kilck really think that an innocuous RVS wagon would have some deeper meaning to it, or is he merely postulating? Is it..sincere? Maybe he just really hates RVS and enjoys the sounds that come out of his RGB LED Mechanical Gaming Keyboard"

[Titus]

I had a townread on Kylne until his italics post.

[Klyne]

You're mad that I thought of it first

[Titus]

I don't feel your italics actually says anything and is unnecessarily attention seeking.

[Klyne]

Do you expect me to have definitive answers by the 3rd page of the game

[Taly]

what was your goal with the wagon?

Hey I was first, I just RVS'd
I agree with the logic that you are probably town because I think that there's a lot of townies who get uncomfortable with early wagons because ??? So I think there is scum voting here, it's just probability. But also you could still be scum with other scum voting for you, in 2172 I made that mistake.

I'm also not sure what the scum motivation is for accelerating your wagon because obviously we aren't going to yeet you.
Or maybe we do but anyone who hammers is scum claiming.

I'm assuming a 1 for 1 is still good in this setup so I'll miss you if that were to happen but I think I'd still take it

what's your take on my response to the official L1 i am at? and to all those who have posted since

BM's

vote?

@bolded

wouldn't be so sure either way, multiball's are wild.

Reasonable assessment, but who are the scum and is it townled at all?

This is kind of weird to me though, I started the wagon and I still wouldn't consider it to be town led. No one had posted yet, it's random led

i also feel iffy with the assertion that i am town based on the wagon since several players did not join into the thread to contribute on RVS before solvy stuff began,

clidd/iam

, so its hard to get a grasp on the thread on a hollistic level.

i mean, the latter half of

klick's

statement was what i meant as

"reasonable"

and where my question was directed

I'd wager Taly is more likely town than anything,

with both scumteams contributing to the wagon somewhere.

but then, i suppose youve still made some assessment of the game within the past 3 pages? something... a bit more interesting than a townlean.

Titus is my best guess for scum on the wagon atm. Weird sheep without comment, and then the fuss about E-1 without unvoting.
MURDERCAT's vote seems NAI, and tbh I'd expect Battle Mage to do the E-1 vote as any alignment. The sus votes are in the middle, when the wagon is actually being talked about as a wagon. A decent question at this point is, is there anyone adding pressure on you that wouldn't have done so as town? If so it's going to be somewhere in {PlusJOYED, Marashu, Titus, Klyne}.

But also there's almost certainly bound to be town guiding the wagon as well

klick

is a quick one with reads but it is productive here.

Setting Taly up at a fake L minus one would clear the way for a fake hammer gambit, which is one of my favorites. I have never seen it done in RVS but I figured why not? Worst thing that happens is more conflict and activity which is good to get us out of RVS.

got a little annoyed with 28 and 33 spoiling the fun because i figured you were reaction testing.

anyway, i like this approach. +1

I don't think Taly should be town just because he got a few votes in RVS

is this why your vote is still on me?

p-edit

Do you expect me to have definitive answers by the 3rd page of the game

do you have

A

definitive answer or jsut

"

taly

may not be town because of RVS wagon itself"

?

give me something hehe

[MURDERCAT]

what's your take on my response to the official L1 i am at? and to all those who have posted since BM's vote?

I think I'm not clear about what you are asking with the first part of this.
As to the second part, I want Titus/Klyne to work itself out before I comment on it, but I have thoughts there.

[Titus]

Do you expect me to have definitive answers by the 3rd page of the game

No. It's more of a tonal thing.

[Titus]

In fact,

VOTE: Kylne

[MURDERCAT]

Kylne, your response?

[ORAM]

I'm actually pinged by both Klyne and Titus. 50 uses a lot of words to really say nothing, but why would scum be more likely to seek attention than town (53)?

I don't see anything in the Taly wagon tbh.

[Klyne]

I think the italics monolouging raises points as others town read klick for




Reading into a RVS wagin















.

[Klyne]

do you have A definitive answer or jsut "taly may not be town because of RVS wagon itself"?

give me something hehe

I had no read on you up until this point and anyone who pretends they did is lying

[MURDERCAT]

This seems like a good enough time to weigh in.
I don't get how you can ever have a tone read on someone whose meta you don't know.

[Klick]

Setting Taly up at a fake L minus one would clear the way for a fake hammer gambit, which is one of my favorites. I have never seen it done in RVS but I figured why not? Worst thing that happens is more conflict and activity which is good to get us out of RVS.

I suspected you might have been aware the wagon wasn't at E-1, thanks for confirming.
My gut can't convince itself you haven't drawn scum here though. Can you do something to change it?

Was thinking some good thoughts but most of them come to

Well does Kilck really think that an innocuous RVS wagon would have some deeper meaning to it, or is he merely postulating? Is it..sincere? Maybe he just really hates RVS and enjoys the sounds that come out of his RGB LED Mechanical Gaming Keyboard"

This is accurate enough. it's a bit of both. I like moving the game out of RVS quickly, and it's been a talking point in a few of my more recent games. But it's not just baseless nonsense. At least, I don't think it is.

I'm actually pinged by both Klyne and Titus. 50 uses a lot of words to really say nothing, but why would scum be more likely to seek attention than town (53)?

I don't see anything in the Taly wagon tbh.

I agree with both of these, these are good takes.

as others town read klick

Has anyone actually expressed a townread on me? I just looked back and couldn't find anyone.
Most of your posts so far have seemed to me like you're more interested in actively shutting down potential reads than developing reads. Why is that?

[Battle Mage]

I'll admit I'm tempted.

Town^

[Battle Mage]

what was your goal with the wagon?

Hey I was first, I just RVS'd
I agree with the logic that you are probably town because I think that there's a lot of townies who get uncomfortable with early wagons because ??? So I think there is scum voting here, it's just probability. But also you could still be scum with other scum voting for you, in 2172 I made that mistake.

I'm also not sure what the scum motivation is for accelerating your wagon because obviously we aren't going to yeet you.
Or maybe we do but anyone who hammers is scum claiming. I'm assuming a 1 for 1 is still good in this setup so I'll miss you if that were to happen but I think I'd still take it

I disagree - more often than not, these 'random' wagons that spring up in the first page or 2 are on scum, because scum love to get in some early distancing votes. So I'd say it's a mild scumtell on Taly.

[PlusJOYED]

VOTE: Taly up the votes, we got ourselves a wagon

Hahahahaha

Lock-town lmfaoo

agree reminds me of someone i've played with before but i won't dox

[PlusJOYED]

Taly is at E minus 1

Isn't it E-2?

It was E-2. I think murder being on point/correcting is NAI but I think titus being wrong (votes less than 1) is an association if taly ever flips non-town. But on it's own it's probably a towntell since mistakes usually come from town.

[PlusJOYED]

Fair enough about Plus. I guess you could call Marashu/Titus/Klyne(/Battle Mage) the true 'wagon votes' there, but I didn't feel Plus' vote was truly random as he was sheeping you.

I know little about Titus' meta. At this point I'm interested in hearing her response.

my reasoning was
1- taly is the main characters name (but needs 1 extra l) from a medicore young adult fiction series I read in middle school that I enjoyed. I was going to make a reference but then realized no one would get the reference and this made me angry. in my rage i voted taly
2- sheep murdercat

[PlusJOYED]

In fact,

VOTE: Kylne

again, this is sus as hell if taly flips red

[MURDERCAT]

1- taly is the main characters name (but needs 1 extra l) from a medicore young adult fiction series I read in middle school that I enjoyed. I was going to make a reference but then realized no one would get the reference and this made me angry. in my rage i voted taly

This is actually hilarious

[Klyne]

Klick maybe nobody said TOWN but I was 5% tilted if you were gonna get credit for your posts on a RVS Wagon, that's very much in ur scum range

Right now I'm about 3% tilted, maybe when I hit 50% I'll start acting like Fate

[Klyne]

I lied I want to OMGUS Titus

VOTE: Titus

[MURDERCAT]

The game within the game is heating up