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[Mod Pizza]

is my take on things important

I mean it's more that I really can't be bothered to read back through if I'm totally honest

if I do start TRing you tho then yes it would be

and the most likely way for that to happen would probably be you talking to me so

[skitter30]

Pizza just checking, how are u reading me?

[Mod Pizza]

I'm not really, so locktown

[skitter30]

Fair enuf

[Prism]

(Pretend I quoted the other questions too)

why are you not voting me ???

It's very easy to miss 1103 since it seems irrelevant to this at first, but I explain a bit there along with 1128

Starting with my read on bork, this was evolving realtime here. My instinct was that he had no reason to try and 1v1 outright like that...but it's not quite so cut and dry. Positioning for a 1v1 with a wallpost doesn't mean you're actually seeking one, he could have equally been looking for a place to park or just muddy the game. I already didn't really like you but felt you were immediately moving to take advantage of a town 1v1 to demoralize it. Both scum was also possible, but me being right on two people voting me is not something I would bet on in any world. At this point, in conjunction with realizing I was thinking incorrectly about bork's scum motivation, I decided I needed to slow down drastically and revisit the posting only when I was confident I could avoid getting emotional or stressed over it.

Some of this stress is from the stakes, but other forms are just from my nature: the prospect of anyone not understanding what I'm saying is an absolutely crushing thing for me, and my first instinct is to do whatever I can to fix it. With bork, if he's scum there's no point in really trying, and if he's town it required a lot more than my erratic attempts.

It is very, very important that I get my reads on both of you correctly. Successfully flipping the elimination to one of you only to have them flip town is likely to lose the game outright, even if the other were scum. I'm rereading the pages today for the first time since they happened and will try to find a vote, but I am very determined to play it slow.

[Mod Pizza]

There's a world where he thinks engineering a 1v1 is the way to get a townread but I never really got that impression

how would it make u feel if I told u I actually do this a lot as scum

[Mod Pizza]

also, did nobody here who knows me point out that I do that quite a lot as scum?

[Mod Pizza]

literally did that in my most recent scumgame when I lied about someone ellitelling to force them close to being the elim lol

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84245

[Mod Pizza]

mod can I rep into an alt account to keep playing this game?

[Mod Pizza]

skitter why are we now voting ffery and not prism?

[Vaxkiller]

if DGB is scum and nobody listened to me about her being scum then I don't think it would be my fault?

I played to enjoy games, not to play town dictator esp in games with a strong PL.

Yea, but pookie, your other game that just ended (the one with the scroll) you were town and you were doing alot more figuring out. So much figuring out that the last scum just came out and scum claimed. They couldn't take it anymore.

Your questions in that game had alot more thought behind them, not just the reactionary ones you have done so far this game.

[skitter30]

At this point, in conjunction with realizing I was thinking incorrectly about bork's scum motivation, I decided I needed to slow down drastically and revisit the posting only when I was confident I could avoid getting emotional or stressed over it

Fair enuf, thanks for explaining, this sort of explanation helps me understand how you're approaching the game and how it's influencing your progression/what's important to you in trying to sort people

I no longer particularly scumread u

[Vaxkiller]

Hey modpizza, maybe you have done this already, but I'd PM the mod.

[Prism]

how would it make u feel if I told u I actually do this a lot as scum

Pretty indifferent, very standard tactic and you're not a pet rock.

iirc I asked about your strategy for scum skitter to begin with because I thought it was a viable strategy to engineer the townread.

I never got the feeling that was what you were doing and I'm content to shove the question aside for now.

[skitter30]

skitter why are we now voting ffery and not prism?

I dont think ffery has real reasons to scumread me, i tried to get a straight answer out of her like 4 times last night and she kept trying to evade/sidestep the question.

Or as i said last night: she's describing my behavior, and calling me scummy, but is at best unwilling and at worst unable to draw a concrete link between the two thoughts.

[skitter30]

iirc I asked about your strategy for scum skitter to begin with because I thought it was a viable strategy to engineer the townread.

I dont think he approaches me that way as scum, if that helps

[Mod Pizza]

Hey modpizza, maybe you have done this already, but I'd PM the mod.

I did and he said no bc "something something using forum mechanics to gain an advantage" and then hasn't responded since I pointed out that I don't care if it's publicly known I'm the same person I just wanna use a different account (besides the fact that repping into your own slot is legal anyway even if it is anonymously and I have both done it and seen other people do it)

[Mod Pizza]

and you're not a pet rock

this made me chuckle

okay, that seems fine then

I also don't think I approach skitt this way as scum but not for reasons I'm willing to go into *shrug*

[Mod Pizza]

skitter why are we now voting ffery and not prism?

I dont think ffery has real reasons to scumread me, i tried to get a straight answer out of her like 4 times last night and she kept trying to evade/sidestep the question.

Or as i said last night: she's describing my behavior, and calling me scummy, but is at best unwilling and at worst unable to draw a concrete link between the two thoughts.

okay, I was just skimming the last VCs and wanted to know why you'd moved off prism

not that I scumread prism, but I wanted to know where your head was moving from/to

what do you think of vax? I still think kinda wolfy. 1385 seems wolfy

[Mod Pizza]

like I'm not sure it's a wildly inaccurate take although I haven't been paying enough attention to pooky to be sure, but it does seem like a very shallow meta take being used to justify the SR

[skitter30]

not that I scumread prism, but I wanted to know where your head was moving from/to

what do you think of vax? I still think kinda wolfy. 1385 seems wolfy

I articulated my vibes on prism just above, but i started getting those feelings last night, so unvoted

I kinda like vax, i dont really have thoughts on the post u quoted

[Mod Pizza]

I wouldn't say I have strong takes on anyone since I think all my initial takes were formed while really not being in the right headspace to play and approaching the game from like, a wrong direction based on misinterpreting things

[Prism]

What makes me so skeptical of you is that I don't think you start selling the wagon for a tonal skim of the two wallposts. I can see a reflex vote for gut. I don't see why you actively try to sell the wagon to others without actually taking the time to study the problem, and if you actually did get into the weeds, I would be even more skeptical of the result.

Thinking bork is town and I'm scum despite seeing my viewpoint is completely fine to me, but there are very transparently terrible hills he has chosen to die on. The simplest is his refusal to acknowledge that 239 was at least trying

undermine

my point, even without the strawman label. This is insanely obtuse.

[skitter30]

What makes me so skeptical of you is that I don't think you start selling the wagon for a tonal skim of the two wallposts. I can see a reflex vote for gut. I don't see why you actively try to sell the wagon to others without actually taking the time to study the problem, and if you actually did get into the weeds, I would be even more skeptical of the result.

I'm sorry, is this directed at me, and if yes, is this abt my argument with pizza?

[fferyllt]

I woke up wanting to vote Cabd.