Did you make a mistake with this question?In post 4222, Infinity 324 wrote:What do you think about hoopla's reasoning that if either me or s_s flips scum-not-redirector, the other is confirmed scum?In post 4220, davesaz wrote:I think it's Something_Smart, Infinity, ?.
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Since hoopla did some of the d4 votecounts, I'm gonna look at the d1 votecounts, since I think that's the most relevant other day in terms of VCs. D2 and D3 mostly just had one uncontested wagon. I'm gonna color all our names orange since we are the slots that could be scum. The most likely scumteams I'll be looking at are s_s/S&M/n_m, s_s/dave/(S&M or n_m), and S&M/n_m/bird.
Spoiler: lilith wagon
The lilith wagon fits pretty well with minimal bussing, with s_s and JV off the wagon. The fact that bird was on this wagon for so long makes a bird/S&M team unlikely. I also didn't really think they're interaction a couple pages back was scum theater.
Spoiler: JV wagon
Note that lilith's vote was on JV from RVS. This wagon makes s_s/dave/n_m kinda unlikely since dave could've hopped on lilith.
Spoiler: the rest
Not too much interesting here, but the lack of lilith CW means that scum is likely to have been not voting/less active, which makes s_s and JV likely partners.
I didn't get too much out of that but I did it so I'm posting it.-
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Also S&M could be townIn post 4228, Infinity 324 wrote:Not too much interesting here, but the lack of lilith CW means that scum is likely to have been not voting/less active, which makes s_s and JV likely partners.-
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This kinda feels like TMI.In post 3035, lilith2013 wrote:Calling bullshit on mena. I jailkept NM last night. I think mena is lying about being blocked to avoid having to give more results.
Also mena’s play D3 makes no sense as a cop receiving an innocent result on skitter. I want crumbs.
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Not from play, but I thought that she was probably town based on the way she played her role.
A gambit's not impossible, but it would definitely surprise me.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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HmmIn post 2626, Something_Smart wrote:
The problem with doing this is then you pretty much have to claim cop. And skitter can tell you how well that goes :3In post 2612, Menalque wrote:My priority there would always be denying town the cop-
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I'm townAlso, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.I will SEARCH for games with you and N_M to help you policy him.I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.-
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dave probablyAlso, what is Not_Mafia doing? This is some of the worst play I’ve ever seen.I will SEARCH for games with you and N_M to help you policy him.I can't remember the last N_M post that wasn't bland, unimaginative and lame. Some shitposters are at least somewhat funny. You are the epitomy of the type of poster that nobody would miss if you were to suddenly disappear. You never add anything of value.-
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In post 4225, davesaz wrote:
Did you make a mistake with this question?In post 4222, Infinity 324 wrote:
What do you think about hoopla's reasoning that if either me or s_s flips scum-not-redirector, the other is confirmed scum?In post 4220, davesaz wrote:I think it's Something_Smart, Infinity, ?.
I could see you having a problem with S_S scum flip means you'll flip scum, but how does that relate to you not thinking S_S will flip scum? Especially when you have S_S in the solve in a later post?In post 4226, Infinity 324 wrote:You read it right, obviously from my pov neither of us will flip scum-not-redirector barring some total bullshit.A community that stifles dissent does not deserve the title of community-
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I’m arguing against the idea that me and s_s are both scum. If that was the case, it would be a big risk since if one of us flipped not-redirector, the other one would basically be confirmed to be redirector. In that case, we almost certainly wouldn’t have killed peta (and probably one of us would’ve claimed cop).-
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Honestly not a clue. Probably not S&M. Probably not N_M/BB together (I don't see them intentionally colliding).In post 4232, Infinity 324 wrote:s_s, who's scum (with me)?
Hoopla and BB are probably not both town, because they both made awful jumps onto me yesterday.Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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Why wouldn’t you? Creature made it a point of requoting it. Some reason you’re completely dismissing what he said? It’s extemely clear he meant he expects scum!me to be very actively involved or he obviously wouldn’t have posted that not just once but twice.In post 4212, Infinity 324 wrote:
Did you expect me to remember that one post? Idk, if it's RL stuff it's NAI.In post 4210, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:How did you possibly forget about this, Infinity?-
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Explain this.In post 4213, Infinity 324 wrote:
The theory is that n_m is the redirector and hoopla or bird is the neighborizer, and n_m claimed neighborizer to fuck with town's math.In post 4211, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Wrt to any potential role swapping, there’s no actual evidence that scum redirected me. I suppose it’s definitely possible we just jk’d the wrong people but you’d think that perhaps at least one of them might have gotten redirected I know that actually did almost happen to me and RC in You’ve Got Mail. JK!FL protected us N2 but he was roleblocked, so we would have died if we hadn’t had used our commuter.-
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I was also jk in Labrynth and scum redirected my Shoshin jk onto can’t recall player name offhand, so I was obviously the target, I think would be the logical assumption? Scum was clearly threatened by me in that game and I’m pretty damn sure had I been in this slot from the getgo, that likely would have happened here as well.In post 4214, Something_Smart wrote:
...why does that have anything to do with it?In post 4211, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:Wrt to any potential role swapping, there’s no actual evidence that scum redirected me.
The biggest issue in the roleswap is, how did they know N_M was going to be jailed N3. If the roleswap is real, then either you are also scum, or they were going to have N_M claim to have neighborized a buddy and instead they just improvised.
Scum in that game logically assumed I’d protect an obvtown slot and they were not wrong in that because the player whom my Shoshin jk was redirected to was not obvtown and they had no way of knowing that I was going to protect Shoshin.-
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Well someone in the draft above TGP took the cop slot, since TGP went for cop and didn’t get it. Of the players currently alive, that’s me, s_s, dave, you, and n_m. Dunn confirmed that you got jk, and peta confirmed that dave got watcher. That leaves me, s_s, and n_m. n_m claimed neighborizer, and dunn verified that the role is in the game. However, since we don’t know that n_m is the neighborizer, it’s possible that n_m is instead the redirector and one of n_m’s scumbuddies (probably bird) is the actual neighborizer.-
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But what does any of this have to do with the possibility of a roleswap? We know there's a redirector regardless.In post 4244, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:-snip-Shame on a martyr claiming friends
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You say you’re town for not being active. I say ok, that may be true in general, but if it’s RL then it’s NAIandthere are many reasons why scum might want to lurk in this game and not others.-
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Why not? I thought it made the most sense for me to protect the slot that didn’t claim to have a watcher/neighbourize that I was most strongly tr at the time. So why wouldn’t Peta NK have made me less sure on that? I would think that if it hadn’t made me less sure, that should be what should logically make you suspicious.In post 4221, Infinity 324 wrote:
I really don't like this reasoning for possibly suspecting me given that there was a decent amount of support for my elim yesterday (bird, s_s) and I'm in the redirector pool.In post 4168, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:I really expected Infinity to be the NK
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