Newbie 2043: Cherfnul - Game Over

[clidd]

Started playing*.

[clidd]

VOTE: Trendall

There is a tell for ''hello'' without vote.

[ben dover123]

It has been brought to my attention that the deadline counter I gave does not match the ruleset. Today should be 10 days long and further days should be seven. I have corrected this. Apologies.

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smh

Dang, that means we gotta get on our feet now. I understand that it is a slightly longer deadline (10 days) but the quicker out of RVS the better.

I think our first genuine reaction may be Trendall for his response to pressure.

Idk if I should post my meta here, maybe you will expect something from me that I won't be able to deliver.

This is an awkward sentence. Scum has more motivation to not post their meta then town does. Additionally, you have got the idea of meta wrong, which is surprising noting the fact that you started playing almost a

year ago.

VOTE: clidd

[clidd]

In the sense that I am below my meta as a town and scum, considering that I was stopped for many months.

Posting or not posting selfmeta is NAI.

[clidd]

Hum, I feel like my sentences are not so fluent. I need to readjust to the language.

[clidd]

Btw, I have a light townlean in your slot. If you want to check my meta, you can access it on my profile.

If you have difficulty finding my finished scums games, you can search for ''mafia pt''.

[ben dover123]

In the sense that I am below my meta as a town and scum, considering that I was stopped for many months.

Posting or not posting selfmeta is NAI.

My vote is not all based on posting self meta, it is mainly because I find that sentence awkward in general.

Anyways, I'd still assume that you would post your meta even if you thought that you probably would be below your meta as town? I find the wording to be a bit awkward.

Hum, I feel like my sentences are not so fluent. I need to readjust to the language.

Yes, this is what I mean by awkward sentences.

[clidd]

I'm not native to english, so I don't think you will find reads in the way I type, sorry.

Ah, I changed my mind. I will help you, give me a minute.

[clidd]

Towngames:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

Scumgames:

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

[ben dover123]

I'm not native to english, so I don't think you will find reads in the way I type, sorry.

Ah, I changed my mind. I will help you, give me a minute.

Hm. That explains a bit of the weird sentence, but I'm not ready to accept this revelation yet. This is where meta comes into play. If I check all of your games and you have the same behavoiur and weird wording around your

sentences, I will pass over this sentence since that proves your awkward sentences are not a first time behaviour.

[clidd]

Just a tip: don't say when you're using meta until you have all the data. People will try to avoid their tells if you say that you're looking their past games.

This is part of the surprise trigger.

[clidd]

I'll take a break, waiting for others (trendal mainly) to post.

[ben dover123]

Just a tip: don't say when you're using meta until you have all the data. People will try to avoid their tells if you say that you're looking their past games.

This is part of the surprise trigger.

I'm fairly certain I don't need the surprise trigger here. You specifically said:

Hum, I feel like my sentences are not so fluent. I need to readjust to the language.

and

I'm not native to english, so I don't think you will find reads in the way I type, sorry.

which infers me that you are not native to English and your sentences are awkward, so if I find that your sentences are more competent than you say they are, you are pretending to have a different posting style, which

is a tell. Plus, I'm fairly certain that if you are actually pretending to have a awkward posting style, you would change it soon because I pointed it out. Either which way, it doesn't really matter that I did not decide to use the

surprise factor of meta.

[clidd]

I am not referring to the use in the current game, considering that you have already announced that you will use meta, but in possible future games.

You closed the tangent of my post and assigned an individual interpretation, which is not correct according to the intention I had in advising you.

[clidd]

In other words, the tip was for future matches.

I've used a lot of meta over the period that I played on the forum and noticed that players are more attentive when you say that you are, in fact, using meta.

They may, for example, even if you are a player known for doing metadive, think that you will not necessarily apply this to all matches.

So the surprise trigger is important: you deny the preparation of the person you are analyzing, and if he is scum, you already constitute an advantage over him.

[clidd]

And by extension, just to put it in context, I don't exercise much my english at work, so the fact that I left the site for the last few months ended up reducing my level of verbal fluency.

This discrepancy is noticeable in my sentences and use of some terms, so I am trying to adapt again to the language.

[ben dover123]

In other words, the tip was for future matches.

I've used a lot of meta over the period that I played on the forum and noticed that players are more attentive when you say that you are, in fact, using meta.

They may, for example, even if you are a player known for doing metadive, think that you will not necessarily apply this to all matches.

So the surprise trigger is important: you deny the preparation of the person you are analyzing, and if he is scum, you already constitute an advantage over him.

Yes, I understand the surprise factor in meta but I am just impatient by nature and like to show all my cards at the beginning of the game, thus I wished to try and keep a nice, conservative stance D1. I have to cool down

already, I think I'm almost about to break said conservative stance.

And by extension, just to put it in context, I don't exercise much my english at work, so the fact that I left the site for the last few months ended up reducing my level of verbal fluency.

This discrepancy is noticeable in my sentences and use of some terms, so I am trying to adapt again to the language.

smh. I was just about to note that in 2018 your sentences were very competent, and I was beginning to think that you were actually pretending to not know lots of English. I'd personally like to end this tunnel, thanks. My

conservative stance is on the verge to break here and I think I finally understand the situation you are in currently.

[ben dover123]

Hrm. By searching your recent posts I found that you are playing in a ongoing game and I ISO'ed the posts you made in that game. I don't think I'm allowed to use such posts as examples here because that would be

OOT. I'd like confirmation on this because showing the posts that clidd has made so far in said ongoing game could change a couple things.

[Trendall]

VOTE: Trendall

There is a tell for ''hello'' without vote.

clidd is first mafia on the basis that he supposed loves to use meta, but didn't check back to see if this is just something I commonly do and instead thinks it's like a generalised 'tell'. These two lines of thinking aren't compatible with each other so mafia.

VOTE: clidd

[Trendall]

1. Is this your first game or do you have past games? Can you link me your best scum and town games if you do have past games? In other words, what games do you want me to metadive you?

2. Favorite role? Favorite alignment?

3. How good are you at scumhunting (self-evaluation), from 1-10?

1. I've played a bunch of games on this forum, a few on forums with friends and thousands of games on epicmafia. Actually I just finished my first normal game on this website and it was really fun.

2. Can't stand being mafia and I'd always generally prefer being an unccd pr or something like that so that I don't have to deal with people's arguments against me.

3. How could you ever know?

[ben dover123]

Hrm. By searching your recent posts I found that you are playing in a ongoing game and I ISO'ed the posts you made in that game. I don't think I'm allowed to use such posts as examples here because that would be

OOT. I'd like confirmation on this because showing the posts that clidd has made so far in said ongoing game could change a couple things.

Can you answer that this is OOT or not?

[clidd]

Hrm. By searching your recent posts I found that you are playing in a ongoing game and I ISO'ed the posts you made in that game. I don't think I'm allowed to use such posts as examples here because that would be

OOT. I'd like confirmation on this because showing the posts that clidd has made so far in said ongoing game could change a couple things.

You can't quote or talk about ongoing games.

[ben dover123]

Ok. Well, I think I can understand most of your reasons, however I'm not ready to retract my vote and my suspicious yet.

[clidd]

VOTE: Trendall

There is a tell for ''hello'' without vote.

clidd is first mafia on the basis that he supposed loves to use meta, but didn't check back to see if this is just something I commonly do and instead thinks it's like a generalised 'tell'. These two lines of thinking aren't compatible with each other so mafia.

VOTE: clidd

I don't think there is a tell for "hello" that confirms that someone is a mafia.

And I feel like you're doing mental gymnastics by assuming that I "love" using meta (I never said I do, only that I used it in the past often), as well as ignoring the context of me being away from the site and the influence that would have in the way I'm playing.

[clidd]

Ok. Well, I think I can understand most of your reasons, however I'm not ready to retract my vote and my suspicious yet.

I still think you're towny in your posts.