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[Noraa]

I will actively push for my own elim if y'all don't stop being like "Noraa is scum. Noraa is scum. Noraa is scum."

[Noraa]

I don't care if I die.
I don't care if town loses.
I don't care.

[Noraa]

So get that damn meta of my most recently ended scum game and use ur brain to think if that play fucking matches what's happening here.

[petapan]

meh, like...trying not to let AtE roll me over anymore and affect my decision-making, because i always get it wrong determining whether it's real or fake, but...i'm not sure nora lights her house on fire for no reason as scum here.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: sircakez

[Datisi]

DUDE I LWAS LITERALLY T<PING UP A CAKEZ VOTE WTF

[Datisi]

typing

i'll start proofreading posts one day

[VP Baltar]

I mean, I'm not opposed to this if it ends the drama. So we know what iv and ABR are doing for sure?

[innocentvillager]

should I have a different action contingent on the alignment flip? Do we think DV scum equity goes up or down with cakez’s red flip?

[VP Baltar]

I kind of wish we had more content from DV today, so I'm not sure. That is just a lurker guess to me.

[VP Baltar]

Datisi, thoughts on night actions?

[VP Baltar]

Lol @ ico having like 2 hours total in this game so far

[petapan]

i was going to suggest voting outside and letting claims resolve themselves but i really doubt there'd be 2 town investigative roles with that strength and i've been burned by letting scummy pr claims so at this point i'd rather close my eyes and yeet it. don't really find the way cakez was pushing back on abr towny at all.

[Datisi]

mhmmm

i'm not in the state to hammer rn so whatever. not opposed to it if it happens while i'm out.

pedit: hell if i know.
so iv is claiming disloyal hider, and abr has an MD shot tonight... as long as town agrees to *not* visit iv tonight for any reason, i thinkkk abr targeting him instead of deas will be slightly +ev (since in theory there could be a false guilty if iv got blocked and abr didn't detect motion on deas)

i mean i'm still convinced this *will* backfire because i don't trust iv to be town *and* i don't trust scum to not fuck with the results (and i have a feeling they have a decent amount of power this game so lel)

but that ^^ is a problem for whatever unlucky souls are alive tomorrow

ppedit: poor ico
also yeah, it's probably not a bad idea to start resolving the pr claims, especially if there's gonna be *checks notes* seven??? of them??? lol this game

[VP Baltar]

i was going to suggest voting outside and letting claims resolve themselves but i really doubt there'd be 2 town investigative roles with that strength and i've been burned by letting scummy pr claims so at this point i'd rather close my eyes and yeet it. don't really find the way cakez was pushing back on abr towny at all.

Obviously the roles in Gypyx games are madness though right? I have zero confidence in what is balanced here. You are right about not letting scummy claims walk though

[innocentvillager]

since in theory there could be a false guilty if iv got blocked and abr didn't detect motion on deas

wait what it's the opposite

if abr doesn't detect motion on me, assuming no interference then DV is town

[Datisi]

since in theory there could be a false guilty if iv got blocked and abr didn't detect motion on deas

wait what it's the opposite

if abr doesn't detect motion on me, assuming no interference then DV is town

i know

that's why i said abr should MD you and not deas

that part is explaining why he shouldn't MD deas

[SirCakez]

What lies abr? What lies?

how does knowing your role only help scum?

how does it make sense im a scum tracker unless you think im throwing the game for scum?

why did you say that scum were willing to trade 2 scum for 1 town PR (you)?

why did you not drop any hints about your visit to midway on day 2?

And I know you gave an answer to this, but your use of your ability on midway and not noraa or IV n1 is not believable to me.

-they can now plan around having people kill who are less likely to visit me
-because two town investigatives of our type doesn't make sense
-i didn't say that. I said potentially you were trying to strongarm an elim on me to save a scum buddy. I later rethought this anyway.
-why would I? I got nothing from it

[Datisi]

wait no

[Noraa]

Cake ur hammered, were u town?

[SirCakez]

Whatever just end me
I'm done with this game

[SirCakez]

I know I'm not hammered lol

[innocentvillager]

another problem is, if DV is town, a scum role could visit me with some random ability to set off ABR's motion detector, and that would be a false guilty on DV

pedit: sorry im confused, no matter who ABR checks and detects no motion, it will suggest DV is town, right

[VP Baltar]

Where dafuq is gamma and DV?

[VP Baltar]

And midway.

[Datisi]

no, wait, i *was* right?? like if iv on deas, abr on deas

- if deas scum, (and scum has a blocker), they can just block iv and it'll be a false inno
- if deas town, they can fake a guilty by visiting deas

if iv on deas, abr on iv

- if deas scum, iv cannot be blocked in the same fashion as there^^ since the rb visit would still give motion
- if deas town, they can fake a guilty by visiting iv

yeah i think i was right, abr targeting iv instead of deas is like, slight +ev in the very specific scenario of (1) iv is town (2) deas is scum (3) scum has a roleblocker (4) abr is town (5) abr lives to day 3

*however* typing this all out, i'm thinking if it's better for arb to target deas instead because in the event iv is scum (and a visiting role) he could make whatever result he wants, while scum!deas with the MD on himself cannot falsely clear himself

it gets even more complicated if we enertain the idea that *both* are scum and honestly????? i don't even fucking know i'm done fuck this setup specc who thought this was a good idea