Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

[clidd]

excellent detective work Marashu

tbh this is more likely to come from town!clidd

Townlean.

[DeasVail]

VOTE: PLUSJoyed

... Go on.

Lots of focus on associations which just feels like empty analysis especially in a setup like this.

Also, there's a list of players in this game [Yourself/PLUSJoyed/JacksonVirgo/ORAM] who just have given me a feeling of emptiness and have not really formed an impression on me which currently places you all in my "scum suspects" list.

[clidd]

What do you think about Titus this game, Deas ?

[Klick]

Hm.

Early takes right now

: I'm thinking Titus is town. I was townleaning Taly based on reactions to the wagon until I saw the post about meta reads. That one makes me feel apprehensive

(though I can at least promise that I will not be reading through those games to fact-check

). I'm feeling scum!murdercat is a very real possibility. I'm also getting gut scumpings from Klick,

but I also know BM is better than me at finding scum.

Klick did have a good point about Klyne, though.

Light TL on Plus. Deas might be scum? So right now I'm feeling {Murdercat, Klick, Klyne, Deas} with one more to find.

UNVOTE:

P-Edit: VOTE: Klyne - now explain your vote.

Look at these preexisting justification and backdoors for just one vote. Why are you being so selective in your word choice like you're afraid of having opinions

Not really here, haven't caught up, but this is exactly what I thought when I read this

[Taly]

Hm. Early takes right now: I'm thinking Titus is town. I was townleaning Taly based on reactions to the wagon until I saw the post about meta reads. That one makes me feel apprehensive (though I can at least promise that I will not be reading through those games to fact-check). I'm feeling scum!murdercat is a very real possibility. I'm also getting gut scumpings from Klick, but I also know BM is better than me at finding scum. Klick did have a good point about Klyne, though.

Light TL on Plus. Deas might be scum? So right now I'm feeling {Murdercat, Klick, Klyne, Deas} with one more to find.

UNVOTE:

P-Edit: VOTE: Klyne - now explain your vote.

what does

murdercat

-scum look like? your commentary implies that you're looking for something specific with that slot.

ok

this post was waaaaay too much effort

, bye.

it was, my Taly-vote stands.

glad we understand each other. i was wondering when someone would scumread me based off effort rather than the content i provide.

And.. That's it. I don't think I will do more than that. Maybe I'll adapt to the real-time chat.

VOTE: Titus

I'm having many mixfeelings right now, but I want to sort this first ^

are you into questions as a means to do a real-time chat? id like you to throw me tons of them.

Point a:

- Delay on vote by Titus is towny.

Point b:

VOTE: Titus

How did you get from Point a to Point b?

small tidbit, i liked that

marashu

didn't read a page-by-page analysis passively.

p-edit

DV

up until 126 i had no impression on at all which pinged me.

DV

, are association tells ever useful to find in this setup?

and what impression have you garnered from the other 8 players?

[Battle Mage]

i feel like people are ignoring me in this game

[clidd]

Taly, I'm finding it difficult to read your posts.

If you could quote on different posts, it would be better.

[Taly]

i feel like people are ignoring me in this game

im not ignoring you bb

<3

but yeah, what reactions are you expecting that you haven't garnered yet?

Taly, I'm finding it difficult to read your posts.

If you could quote on different posts, it would be better.

k, ill keep quotes down

ill just work on post linking more, does that help?

[clidd]

i feel like people are ignoring me in this game

Talk with me then.

What's your current view on Titus ?

pedit: yes, it does, thanks.

[clidd]

Taly, can you summarize all your reads so far? you don't need to detail anything, I just want to know where your head is at the moment.

[ORAM]

I like Taly and clidd for town. Klick and DV too, though not as strongly.

Marashu, talk to me about 90 because most of those reads are the opposite of how I feel.

I'm not exactly a hyperposter, but I'll be around for a while rn. Anyone on, let's talk

[Taly]

Taly, can you summarize all your reads so far? you don't need to detail anything, I just want to know where your head is at the moment.

i take my time with reads but here is my POV rn:

Some Degree Of Town Read: Clidd, Marashu, Klick, Murder

Sorting: iam, ORAM, JacksonVirgo, Titus, BM, DeasVail, Klyne

Some Degree Of Scum Read: PlusJOYED

(im still sorting everybody tbh, but the mid-category is without actual thoughts leaning me one direction or another on alignment)

i have actual thoughts with

BM/Klyne/DV/Titus

but nothing that i think AI just yet.

p-edit

ORAM

, what do you think about all the wagons so far?

{taly/titus/klyne/plus}

just noticed the wagons are literally just 2

"somewhat-1v1s"

huh. thats gonna make later VCA analysis interesting.

[Klyne]

Some Degree Of Town Read: Clidd,

Marashu

, Klick, Murder

Do NOT do this

His back-off from me was the freaking scummiest thing all game, even beating Titus. The way he unvoted was absolute unadulterated NOOB SCUM FEAR.

He thought "Oh shit, maybe I was a bit over-performative in the way I described my reads, I guess from now on I'll be more vague because he thought that was scummy, whew"

[Klyne]

Scum is Taly/Marashu/Titus/Battle Mage/PLUSJoyed(?)

Afk

[ORAM]

Taly wagon: blah and unconvincing. PLUS trying to kill you to figure out Titus doesn't really make sense to me, especially as associatives are more confusing because multiball. BM feels like he's trying to get *interesting* things to happen, which isn't hard to imagine coming from someone who's been in a whole lot of RVSs, judging by the 2007 joindate, as any alignment.

Titus wagon: I have thoughts, but I'd like to save them for later

Klyne wagon: He pinged me earlier, but I don't really get this wagon now. Seems like it's only around because of a snipey personality/playstyle and not anything AI

PLUS wagon: Decent wagon, I agree with the votes and would vote here too.

Taly, Murdercat is stuck at hard null for me, sell me on your townlean there

[Marashu]

what does murdercat-scum look like? your commentary implies that you're looking for something specific with that slot.

Not so much what it looks like as what I'm seeing and trying to figure out if it's AI. His entrance with 8 was weird to me. Correcting titus, followed by 48 looks like someone who's trying to look helpful without considering that Titus might be acting deliberately. And comments like 59, 63, and 98 feel like he's trying to stay to the sidelines. I can see these coming from scum!murdercat.

[Marashu]

Marashu, talk to me about 90 because most of those reads are the opposite of how I feel.

DV had all of one post at the time, and it was just fluff (and not in an RVS kind of way). Why do you feel strongly about Taly?

[clidd]

I like Taly and clidd for town. Klick and DV too, though not as strongly.

Marashu, talk to me about 90 because most of those reads are the opposite of how I feel.

I'm not exactly a hyperposter, but I'll be around for a while rn. Anyone on, let's talk

I don't think DV said anything towny yet. He's null to me.

I agree in relation to Klick and I am in doubt in relation to Taly, in the sense that I do not know how to interpret whether this is his playstyle or not.

pedit: hallo marashu

[Marashu]

Do NOT do this

His back-off from me was the freaking scummiest thing all game, even beating Titus. The way he unvoted was absolute unadulterated NOOB SCUM FEAR.

He thought "Oh shit, maybe I was a bit over-performative in the way I described my reads, I guess from now on I'll be more vague because he thought that was scummy, whew"

So is your problem with how I presented my reads, or the reads themselves? Or just the unvoting? Also, in case it changes anything, I'm not super experienced but I do roll scum a disproportionate amount of times.

pedit: allo clidd

[clidd]

Taly, can you summarize all your reads so far? you don't need to detail anything, I just want to know where your head is at the moment.

i take my time with reads but here is my POV rn:

Some Degree Of Town Read: Clidd, Marashu, Klick, Murder

Sorting: iam, ORAM, JacksonVirgo, Titus, BM, DeasVail, Klyne

Some Degree Of Scum Read: PlusJOYED

(im still sorting everybody tbh, but the mid-category is without actual thoughts leaning me one direction or another on alignment)

i have actual thoughts with

BM/Klyne/DV/Titus

but nothing that i think AI just yet.

p-edit

ORAM

, what do you think about all the wagons so far?

{taly/titus/klyne/plus}

just noticed the wagons are literally just 2

"somewhat-1v1s"

huh. thats gonna make later VCA analysis interesting.

Your townpool is basically what I'm thinking too.

Regarding your wagon, what is your impression of the growth it had in a short period of time?

[clidd]

Some Degree Of Town Read: Clidd,

Marashu

, Klick, Murder

Do NOT do this

His back-off from me was the freaking scummiest thing all game, even beating Titus. The way he unvoted was absolute unadulterated NOOB SCUM FEAR.

He thought "Oh shit, maybe I was a bit over-performative in the way I described my reads, I guess from now on I'll be more vague because he thought that was scummy, whew"

Which post did he do that?

[clidd]

what does murdercat-scum look like? your commentary implies that you're looking for something specific with that slot.

Not so much what it looks like as what I'm seeing and trying to figure out if it's AI. His entrance with 8 was weird to me. Correcting titus, followed by 48 looks like someone who's trying to look helpful without considering that Titus might be acting deliberately. And comments like 59, 63, and 98 feel like he's trying to stay to the sidelines. I can see these coming from scum!murdercat.

Post 8 pinged me too, but the rest of his posts are towny imo.

Why I'm not following the same line of your interpretation?

[Marashu]

Post 8 pinged me too, but the rest of his posts are towny imo.

Why I'm not following the same line of your interpretation?

What's your take on Titus' faking E-1?

[clidd]

I don't see it as functional. In no game since I joined the site in January I saw a fake hammer catch scum.

And I believe Titus knows that too.

[clidd]

But, like I said, I want to talk with Titus and see her take on the game.

If she's town, she will show that. Just like MC has already done imo.