BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me [END]

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Enchantress would be the boon bank role, not the variant

larges have 2 variants usually so I'd expect scum to have a variant here

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

@Boonskiees, can the town magical fairy self-target?

Pelican self-targeting would mean the kill would resolve on their slot even if they were targeted by enchantress.

UNVOTE: for now

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Welcome, The Pelican Brief, you are a Town Magical Fairy [Mutated Inverted Voyeur].

Abilities:
• [Voyeur] At night, you may target a player. You will learn what type of action was performed on that player, but not by who.
• [Inverted] If your target is "away from town" or "in another universe", your action will still succeed, and you will allow all other actions performed on your target to succeed, even if it would normally fail from modifiers such as "Disloyal".
• This is a variant role.

Win condition:
You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated and there is at least one town player alive.

Game thread is here. . Confirm by replying to this PM with your role name.

actually I'm confused how NAR would resolve for this to be the case

enchantress effect applies first, which results in the condition "in another universe", which then allows the inverted self-target of voyeur to resolve which then allows night kill to resolve?

tbh it seems kinda weird that voyeur would resolve after enchantress but I guess?

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Taly would also I guess have to be a real life lightning rod lol

or maybe scum have some ability which causes multiple abilities to be targeted to one player? a scum redirector ability would probably fit with a commuter meme, although I'm getting a bit deep into setup spec now

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

We could actually finish mass claim with the caveat that town investigatives can claim VT for today only

we have 3 tprs and 2 vts claimed, I'm not sure what merit there is in *not* finishing mass claim now

invests don't have to claim today because sam is already claimed town protective and I feel like it's relatively unlikely town has a second protective with the commuters in the game, although that is something that could also be left to town invest discretion

[Aristophanes]

I know deadlines are a thing and will see if I have time during class today for this.

7 pages overnight means Ineither missed something important or someone melted down.

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

well there was just a kind of spicy claim but actually I'd say it's mostly just been discussion for the last 7 pages?

[Aristophanes]

Neat! Thanks HUB <3

And wait...7 pages of regular, civil discussion??
Impossible!

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

to be clear anyone here with a variant or boon bank role should at this point claim because I would functionally treat that as a counter-claim to Sam's alignment, the likelihood that scum have no variant/boon roles is probably 0%

[Aristophanes]

Taly would also I guess have to be a real life lightning rod lol

or maybe scum have some ability which causes multiple abilities to be targeted to one player? a scum redirector ability would probably fit with a commuter meme, although I'm getting a bit deep into setup spec now

Scum could have an "inverted" mod too right?

With 3 commuters would that not be a necessity?

And lol, I could see taly/titus thinking up some crazy logic to make that happen but I also don't really believe it...

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

if enchantress and both commuters are town you would think scum would have some way of interacting with commuters, yeah

the other possibility being maybe like GX was scum ascetic and just changed his claim to commuter because it would get him towncred from shelly but that still seems oddly convoluted to me

[BrightEyedFish]

Will this game have 1 variant or 2 based on size?

I'm pretty sure 2 since this was in the large queue.

[Gypyx]

Ohhhh another commuting, spicy

Anyways yeah as shelly pointed out commuter can only self-target

Am I the only one feeling like there are too many townreads?

[Gypyx]

What are the odds that scum has a strongman?

[Happy Unbirthday Boon]

Why would you use your role on Pelican instead of checking alignment of an inactive player. This seems completely inconsistent with your behavior so far.

a) important to protect them if they are town
b) if they aren't town, it's important to know that; I was gonna ask if anyone targeted me day 2

You're a parallel universe, Sam?

? no

On this, how did them being a claimed pr factor i to your reasoning?

[samantha97]

On this, how did them being a claimed pr factor i to your reasoning?

not at all because it was win/win regardless

though I didn't believe they were, because they just openly claimed not only a power role but "very positive utility" (took me like 10 minutes to find that, thought I was going nuts)

I think people like them can be a power role in practice even if they don't have one though

[Happy Birthday Boonskiies]

She was the only counterwagon to Vax.

There was no counter to Vax. Scum likely bussed, as they tend to do when their partner is as scummy as Vax was.

I agree that scum likely bussed, but Samantha was the attempted counter. I've gone over it, Vax was trying to make that the counter.

HBB, have you ever done an elitell as town?

You mean make elitell reads? All the time.

[Happy Birthday Boonskiies]

i wont make my tell public though since I wanna keep up my 100% accuracy on ydra

Did you check her first newbie scumgame out of interest?

[Happy Birthday Boonskiies]

Samantha is a really bad wagon, she was very obviously what scum were trying to push as a counter to Vax at several points yesterday.

Vax himself was also pushing there hard, and I don't buy the distancing explanation. If it's just distancing, Vax doesn't tryhard and effort so much just so that he can save himself and instead get his partner launched in his place. Samantha is most likely just town.

so i know i've just twirled your hair and all, very cutely, but didn't the samantha wagon come first? how is it a counter-wagon?

My hair's all curly now thanks to you. Do you mind twirling it the other way to straighten it again?

And you are correct! Samantha was a wagon before Vax's wagon happened. The thing is that no other players picked up any votes, and Vax decided to vote on the remains of the Samantha wagon, meaning he was probably trying to get it going again.

Im on page 19 will pick up tomorrow.

another "10 pages are too hard to read" post
VOTE: vaxkiller

VOTE: Samantha

I don't see scum motivation in golden paradoxes one track mind to lynch a replacement. Weird an annoying maybe, but it feels town to me.

Do scum really commit to forming each other as the only two wagons day 1? It doesn't fit with the effort Vax was putting in to try and get out of it.

[Gamma Emerald]

ok hi good morning

I was gonna wait until 24 hours were left or someone was e-1 to post this, but now that the game has livened up and it's close to 24 hours anyway, I'm gonna roleclaim

*drumroll*

enchantress

yes, that is the 3rd commuter claim

what's even more interesting than there supposedly being 3 commuters in this game is that I targeted pelican last night and they died anyway

I've been conflicted since the gypyx/shelly interaction today as to which is most likely mafia (I mean I guess it's possible there are 3 town commuters but?)

for gypyx: he claimed first and was the first to claim commuter

for shelly: I found taylor's posts outside of the roleclaims to be extremely town

@gypyx and shelly, who did you both target last night?

>:/
I don't think 3 commuters is farfetched for this series tbh, but yours IS the odd one out

[Gamma Emerald]

@boon is there any way multiple variant/bank roles can be crammed into one slot, such as repeating the same role?

[Shoshin]

HBB's recent posting is scum gibberish.

[Gamma Emerald]

why >:?

[Shoshin]

HBB seems to know more about what Vax & scum was thinking than town would. If Sam's town, HBB's likely scum.

[Shoshin]

the other possibility being maybe like GX was scum ascetic and just changed his claim to commuter because it would get him towncred from shelly but that still seems oddly convoluted to me

I see no reason to believe Gypyx isn't just a scum parallel universe, as I've suggested for a while. Behavior-wise, Gypyx is one of the scummiest players.