Among Us Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Akarin]

Taly

I can't tell if

Blitzo

is scum or town not paying enough attention. They seem to have a slow internet connection or at least a slow means of responding to posts, maybe a phone that's not especially fast or something?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Similarly, I'm not in favor of No Elimination today because it hands scum a free kill.

Haschel, if you're not in favor of handing scum free kills

why the heck are you opposed to claiming rooms?

Because it gives the scum waaaaaaay too much room to maneuver and at the moment they have a lot more information about how to use game mechanics to their advantage than we do.

[Akarin]

I don't think we have enough info to decide either way so people should just do what they want. I think this is better than random because some people want to group. I think scum will get an extra kill off tonight but what can you do.

Not have everyone just do what they want.

2 NKs is 2 NKs. Someone making a personal choice to gamethrow isn't better than just... not doing that.

[TheGoldenParadox]

blitzo is just scum
i will case this later

[Akarin]

Because it gives the scum waaaaaaay too much room to maneuver and at the moment they have a lot more information about how to use game mechanics to their advantage than we do.

I've spent a bunch of words trying to explain why this is important, and your response is just nothing. Explain why this is "waaaaaay too much information" to the extent that it's worth giving scum an extra NK to prevent them from having. I think it's a pretty high burden and you're not actually giving anything other than meaningless generalities.

scum always have a lot more information about the game mechanics than we do but you're opposed to trying to use what we

do

know to our advantage at all.

I think that requires a lot more justification than "shrug, plans bad"

[Akarin]

There is a difference between "breaking the game" and using the information in the setup post to avoid giving scum free kills on town.

There's a difference between avoiding giving scum information in general, and avoiding giving scum information at the cost of the death of town.

This is like having a rolecop result that someone is a BP-Townie and not outing that when they're at E-1 because you don't want scum to have the information.

[Titus]

blitzo is just scum
i will case this later

Tgp is likely town
Won't case this later as it's based off this post

[Taly]

Why do you think she rolled scum?

*exasperated tone*

All fluff no substance... a ball of scum dipped in cutesy sauce.

...

have you actually read my posts?

i was getting excited to hear a good reason to scumread me, because lord knows, there are better ones than this.

[Battle Mage]

Plenty of unexplained reads by BM. Feels incredibly fake.

lol i literally cant remember having many reads - let alone "plenty of unexplained" ones.

Show me your workings?

[Taly]

Phoneposting

Titus, what is your rationale for this being town me via meta?

Battle, can you te me what your POV of your wagon is?

[Battle Mage]

look normally I'd love to murder Battle Mage as fast as possible but he's not scum here

err thanks?

[Battle Mage]

Phoneposting

Titus, what is your rationale for this being town me via meta?

Battle, can you te me what your POV of your wagon is?

i'm catching up, but it looks lazy and stupid. like, no reason for votes.

[MURDERCAT]

2 NKs is 2 NKs. Someone making a personal choice to gamethrow isn't better than just... not doing that.

I'm not convinced it is a game throw is the thing and I'm not convinced that grouping prevents an extra NK. I believe it is the better choice but I don't think it's fair to suggest that not giving up info is unilaterally worse.

[Akarin]

I think it is fair and I've laid out my reasons.

Half the players are just "shrug, plans r dumb"

If there's a sabotage that allows scum to overcome grouping (Lights?) why should we assume it's not better to force them to use that rather than giving them the NK

and

the ability to use another sabotage.

Seems reasonable to assume they can't use all the sabotages at once, just like in Among Us. Do you disagree?

[Battle Mage]

lol i'll give you kudos...

...for the most bad-faith, scummy ISO-analysis I've ever seen. Like, taking every post I made and trying to construe it in a scummy way is not genuine solving. Poor effort.

VOTE: flea

o(^▽^)o DIVA FLEA ISO FUN TIME! o(^▽^)o

Spoiler: Our Jester

Alright. I wanna start off with an RQS this game. Questions are as follows:

1) what power role have you not been that you want to try out, and why? Don’t factor in your current role, answer this question assuming you are vanilla this game.
2) If you were scum, who would be your a) D1 miselim push, b) N1 kill, and c) partner you’d want to bus you and go to the end, given each person was the correct alignment for that specific action?
3) What is your skill with mechanic-heavy setups? If you’re not skilled at them, do you intend to get better with practice or rely on others?
4) What is your favorite candy?
5) What would you say is your biggest strength and biggest weakness as town/scum/in general?

1. I'd like to be cult leader in a game where my entire cult didn't bus me to death.
2.a. probably you b. probably Titus c. Pooky or DGB
3. Generally bad, but I played a similar game to this recently. I was so bad I somehow managed to die twice before anyone else had died. But it was so fun!!
4. Candy bad.
5. Biggest strength as town = pretty much never getting mis-elimmed. Biggest strength as scum = mostly winning because my bad reads are a benefit

HE DOESN'T LIKE CANDY?! LIKE WHAT?!
Also, check out number 5. Never getting mislim'd and having bad reads. hmmm...

what happens to tasks when ppl die though? do we have to do fewer tasks?

when people die their tasks get distributed we can figure out a good system for this later.

ah in that case, yeah i like the no-elim plan. I have fewer tasks than you I think.

Mech talk, and hinting at something? Maybe this is just out of context.

I have 1 I think. I go to a room, then I do my task.

Not quite as bad a fart as what HC dropped, but this still stinks to me ║ * ರ Ĺ̯ ರ * ║ also Spongebob doesn't approve.

VOTE: Murdercat

MY EYES! THEY BURRRRN! SOMEONE PUT SOME CLOTHES ON THIS VOTE! (ʘ ل͟├┬┴┬┴

VOTE: XreckonerX

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well outing the locations is good and bad
good because we can make a plan
bad because scum can mess with that plan presumably

maybe but i'd rather have the entire game leashed so people dont wander off and murder each other in the room they shouldn't be in

I'm with you bud!!

Adding nothing...

well outing the locations is good and bad
good because we can make a plan
bad because scum can mess with that plan presumably

Lol are you actually scum cake

you think outing everything now is good? I see too much risk

we've started now dude. I'm totally down with elimming in the pool of those who won't claim if we have such a thing.

THA'S A BIIIIIIIIG POOOOOLLLL. (⊃‿⊂)

tbh if Battle Mage kills me in electrical
I'm happy with that

don't worry, you can trust me

Nope.

VOTE: no elim

i'm on the board

No that's a plank. ლ(ಠ_ಠლ)

should we all claim task number? i see no reason not to

I have 2

I have one.
I plan on doing mine asap so I can pick up one of the other tasks and then do it.

I like your style Titus. I was planning on doing mine, and then kicking back on Night 2

I don't like this. Like I really don't like this. (๑•﹏•)

I feel pretty relaxed with Pooky in charge - he knows how to do this game.

Wait you relaxed with someone else in charge?

Completely! the last time we played a game similar to this I got singled out and killed by scum immediately. Pooky didn't realise I was dead and tried to rescue me....dying himself in the process.

He knows that people getting picked off sucks, and is coming up with a plan to avoid that. Total townvibes.

Or this... This is scum vibes to me. This is "I'mma coast and let other people do the hard work" and with the last post, doesn't sit well with me.

Battle Mage has 1 task so it should be fine.
I can also go w/ Battle Mage so you feel safer, I have a 2nd task but I don't mind it if it would make you feel safer

I'm not planning to go anywhere without 3/4 people minimum.

This is interesting...

i guess the alternative to all moving in a pack would be for people to pair up - easy way to identify scum.

And this is why. I'm getting a people pleaser vibe here.

every1 claim what rooms you need for your tasks

i will excel it and figure out optimal pathing

alisae will probly do it faster and better

electricity room?

wait you really only have 1 room to go to?

Same and it happens to be the same room.

So it looks like BM and I are sharing a room for the night.

goshdarn Titus, are you going to kill me?

But isn't Alisae there too?

this will be a strange mafia game where no scumhunting is required

*shudders*

Maybe this is just in the context I'm looking at where I'm getting the vibes of the scums but this REALLY isn't feeling right to me now.

I think allowing the opportunity for scum to get an extra kill is important
we also shouldn't be sending anyone that's too important if we do try to create opportunities for scum to kill. Town can benefit off of a townie that needs to be sorted dieing.

I'm not sure on this though.

if we're just going to do the tasks and win, does sorting even matter though?

Like we've said why we still need to sort people but he's hesitant to be sorted it seems?

I dunno, I feel like I'm in a rabbit hole at this point and everythings just going to go "I'M SCUM!" at me? (¤﹏¤)

it doesnt matter if someone needs to be in a room two nights in a row. the point of leashing the entire PL is that nobody can wander off and kill you when u r in that room alone on night 2

I meant in terms of how many nights it make take to complete. We can't just visit X number of rooms each night and cover each room on 1 night.

Maybe not enough people have combinations like mine for it to matter, but wanted to claim this before we get too far.

Also splitting into smaller groups where the towniest players are paired makes sense, but if scum have a regular NK they can potentially frame people.

ah i hadnt thought about the framing thing. do the kills take place at the same time though?

Honestly, have you given this game any thought? :/

Like I'm not okay with obvtown getting killed via the extra kill mechanic, so it would be someone that town would be okay with dieing.

pedit: I mean I think we can try to go for a task any% speedrun but I think if we get handed a free scum lynch we should take it?

agree if it's on a plate due to a cop investigation or something, but otherwise I'm not keen on us elimming through half-assed scumhunting when we are all handicapped with post restrictions and the like.

Half assed is better than none.

Wait, wait, wait.
Is there even any hunting in this game.

i think that's what we're trying to establish now mate. My guess is, maybe not.

uh.... you were pretty set on no scumhunting not so long ago?

suddenly I want to yeet Flea for making my page size double
and also for doing the RQS thats gross

not to mention calling me scum coz i claimed my room

"electrical?" seems questioning and not like a claim. I just get bad vibes from you... also wow I'm only on page 9?

UNVOTE:

I think I still want to wield the stick of elimming someone who refuses to claim.

We got more reasoning for the unvote than we have for both votes?

VOTE: titus

VOTE: Haschel

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Ya I want some Chaos
I trust you to create that environment

Is this free reign to just run around the ship like a lunatic? ( ͡◉ ͜ʖ ͡◉)

Also Flea while ur at it what do you think of Titus

Cautious at the moment, People are saying she's more vote and wagon driven, but she's not doing much in that way.

are we really moving away from the idea of a systematic and cohesive team approach, to a free-for-all?

Maybe. Why? What'cha thinkin ( ͝סּ ͜ʖ͡סּ)

i think that would be a stupid idea

... Why?

something feels off
what do you think of Titus and Haschel?

they both feel red to me

titus more so

concur

Why?

if i sleep now, hopefully this will all have blown over in the morning...

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you guys should definitely do all the posting done today you want to do

cuz tommorrow is going to be comically badly post restricted lolol

nobody fuck up their tasks pls

can we finish the massclaim and go to night then? seems like we're not achieving much else.

You haven't exactly contributed yourself.

you're planning to elim me today so does it matter?

I still hate this attitude...

no idea why, i'm obvtown here.

No... no you're not. Why do people think they're obvtown? Like fine you know your PM but to me you're closer to obvscum than obvtown, honestly.

you're planning to elim me today so does it matter?

It's only 2 days into deadline.

When did I ever say I wanted you to be the elim?

you're literally campaigning to get ppl to vote for me.

Maybe so there's pressure on you to actually contribute?

VOTE: No Elim

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VERDICT

Happy keeping my vote here for now.

[MURDERCAT]

If there's a sabotage that allows scum to overcome grouping (Lights?) why should we assume it's not better to force them to use that rather than giving them the NK and the ability to use another sabotage.

Seems reasonable to assume they can't use all the sabotages at once, just like in Among Us. Do you disagree?

I agree and pretty much already said the same thing

[Akarin]

I agree and pretty much already said the same thing

You said the same thing except you refuse to take a stance and keep saying everyone should just do what they want anyway.

"Scum will just get an extra kill tonight, what can you do?"

We could not make it easy for scum to get an extra kill.

[Akarin]

VOTE: Murdercat

[Battle Mage]

Work is calling again, busy until a bit later unfortunately.
I will note that voting into the no elims might prove fruitful - I feel like that's an idea that's obviously bad so there could be something behind it.
BM being there probably means something.

2 things:

if it's obviously bad, why are 3 people voting for it?
seems like you're tunnelling me here - not objective solving

My second thought was that TGP was entirely forgettable.
I might let that develop for a bit and see what happens.

obviously i can't prove this, but i think blitzo wrote this AFTER previewing and faked it so they didn't

i also thought this on initial read.

DGB, why should I vote for Blitzo?

Vote for Blitzo if you don't want to vote for Battle Mage.

well if those are the only 2 options, I just might!

obviously i can't prove this, but i think blitzo wrote this AFTER previewing and faked it

Probably not but this is a town thing to say I think

battle mage is like, fairly town to me and i'm not inclined to eliminate there

good take

dgb, after page 39 do you think blitzo is a better elim

Maybe but still I want more than one horse in the race.

you picked a fine stallion here

@dgb - Sure.
VOTE: battle mage
Now.
What's the deal?

eww gross

@DGB - was this whole scumread thing a ploy to get me to vote for BM?

duh, she's just playin' you

Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM

why
tbh Titus' reads seem sensible

BM is playing to town meta

I think this is legitimately wrong

nah I'm town dude

Personally I feel OER or Bell are the more likely scums there, not BM

why
tbh Titus' reads seem sensible

BM is playing to town meta

I think this is legitimately wrong

What distinguishes the two?

@SirCakez this is to you as well.

In a sentence, town BM is more chaotic. I don't sense the same sort of chaotic town!BM vibe I normally get.

Eh, it's a big game with big personalities. I'm riding along with most of this.

BM is lurk fuck as scum and actually plays as town

^This guy gets it.

[Battle Mage]

did I piss DGB off somehow?

[Battle Mage]

I'm confident with Cakez-town. I can definitely see Gamma-town too. Credible takes on me.

[MURDERCAT]

You said the same thing except you refuse to take a stance and keep saying everyone should just do what they want anyway.

More like, I don't think that these arguments are going to convince anyone, I see their POV, and I've done what I wanted to do which is claim my rooms.

[Akarin]

Murdercat basically agrees with the logic but doesn't care about the result, and doesn't want to agree too strongly.

[MURDERCAT]

I was like one of the first people to claim

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

its not just about their personal preferences.

if we leash the entire PL to

5 rooms * 3 each
2 Solos

or

4 rooms * 4 each
1 Solo

It creates a situation where each bonus NK can be mapped onto a potential killer or killers.

If people are doing whatever they want - wherever they want, then the solos are vulnerable because we don't know who could be with them, and its basically a shot in the dark if scum get their bonus NK without any accountability.

scum have every incentive to refuse to disclose location in order to go for kills on solos.