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[MathBlade]

@Battle Mage - I am reaching out to you in the hopes that you are town, which I think you are. I am not scum here. Mathblade pushed through a Super Bowl-Titus team gambit, and then you can see in their posts yesterday they realized they’d have to switch to me.

Oh I agree BM is town here too Ranny convinced me overnight.

But we elim guilties then if Outer flips town (doubt it) we have a guilty on NPOM into elo.

Win win

[Flavor Leaf]

NPOM is salty I caught them lying.

I go back to this.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Battle Mage - I am reaching out to you in the hopes that you are town, which I think you are. I am not scum here. Mathblade pushed through a Super Bowl-Titus team gambit, and then you can see in their posts yesterday they realized they’d have to switch to me.

Oh I agree BM is town here too Ranny convinced me overnight.

But we elim guilties then if Outer flips town (doubt it) we have a guilty on NPOM into elo.

Win win

If you’re town, you need to read in between the lines more clearly.

[MathBlade]

@Battle Mage - I am reaching out to you in the hopes that you are town, which I think you are. I am not scum here. Mathblade pushed through a Super Bowl-Titus team gambit, and then you can see in their posts yesterday they realized they’d have to switch to me.

Oh I agree BM is town here too Ranny convinced me overnight.

But we elim guilties then if Outer flips town (doubt it) we have a guilty on NPOM into elo.

Win win

If you’re town, you need to read in between the lines more clearly.

If you’re town this isn’t a time for subtlety here.

NPOM has been deliberate with word choice at the start of the game.

If you think they’re lying explain how.

[Flavor Leaf]

@Battle Mage - I am reaching out to you in the hopes that you are town, which I think you are. I am not scum here. Mathblade pushed through a Super Bowl-Titus team gambit, and then you can see in their posts yesterday they realized they’d have to switch to me.

Oh I agree BM is town here too Ranny convinced me overnight.

But we elim guilties then if Outer flips town (doubt it) we have a guilty on NPOM into elo.

Win win

If you’re town, you need to read in between the lines more clearly.

If you’re town this isn’t a time for subtlety here.

NPOM has been deliberate with word choice at the start of the game.

If you think they’re lying explain how.

You just are looking at the surface level. Look at how he was talking with Outer. He's claimed VT, right? There's zero reason for him to need any other claims. Then he immediately knew I was lying. I was actively trying to catch him out.

He was setting up to change his claim to benefit him.

I haven't been subtle. You need to read in between lines because you're looking at NPOM only on the surface level.

NPOM was the wagon Ben pushed right before, and was the vote to trip NPOM out.

NPOM was the counterwagon to Superbowl.

You are wrong if you are town MathBlade, full stop.

[Flavor Leaf]

MathBlade, if I were scum, I would be able to work you completely without a sweat. I hate to say that, but I just know your playstyle way too well at this point.

[Flavor Leaf]

It's specifically because I know you, not you as a player, I think you have a decent ability to obv town, which you have not here as a mason for me.

I'm a tinfoil kind of person, sure, but I do not make bad plays like this for no reason as scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

after the johnny kill, after pushing you two as scum as masons, this just is obviously a gamestate created that I do not have the momentum in. This is NEVER the case when I am scum, Mathblade.

I am the puppet master of the century.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like, I know I've defended scum hard before as town, but I gut read the way Outer hammered Superbowl. He actively challenged a line where someone called whoever hammered is lock scum.

Now we're in a situation, where if I'm wrong, and Outer is faded and flips scum, I'm getting misfaded. I'm like 80% sure Outer is town, and that is good enough for me to want to hard defend.

I'm a little lower with Titus.

[Flavor Leaf]

NPOM has been deliberate with word choice

actually, this is not even a town thing, this is a scum thing, i dont know why you are pushing this as townie.

[MathBlade]

I think you’re wrong here on Outer. Regardless if outer is town then NPOM becomes lock scum and there’s room for elo. The proper play is elim outer here.

Can’t find outer’s VT claim. Help me.

I am actually not. There’s only 1-2 things NPOM can claim or they go back on the sus pile.

[MathBlade]

NPOM has been deliberate with word choice

actually, this is not even a town thing, this is a scum thing, i dont know why you are pushing this as townie.

Oh no NPOM crumbed something specific imho. I want to see if it pans out.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: NoPowerOverMe

This has slipped by both day phases. This is the fade today.

he was setting up to change his claim, but I successfully stopped that play.

Look back at how he KNEW I was lying. He KNEW it.

There is no way a VT knows that there, and I actively was trying to catch NPOM here.

[Flavor Leaf]

NPOM crumbed, Math?

Then he's conf scum.

He claimed VT yesterday

[Flavor Leaf]

NPOM has been deliberate with word choice

actually, this is not even a town thing, this is a scum thing, i dont know why you are pushing this as townie.

Oh no NPOM crumbed something specific imho. I want to see if it pans out.

you caught him out then.

[Rannygazoo]

Let’s generate some noise from which we will derive associations or motives
VOTE: Non Imh

From town's perspective, there's a lot more freedom in choosing what to do, because I know I'm not going to solve the game on page 1. I just need to see content and hopefully it will make sense in retrospect.

DO YOU SEE THE PATTERNS IN THE NOISE NOW? DO YOU?

[Flavor Leaf]

NPOM, you up

Vanilla Town

@Math - Prove you aren't scum then. You are actively defending someone incorrectly.

Is this a mistake on your part, yes or no?

[Rannygazoo]

Masons AND Neighbors?

Mason is one of those claims that you don't really have to investigate until it gets much later into the game. It's most likely self-resolving. If we get to like 8p left, the mason should claim. (8p is arbitrary number)

Can we get an agreement that no one will suicide anymore? It's frustrating to lose people like that.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the consensus is against Mathblade at this point. I'm not sure but at the same point if Math's right that's two people who are hard aligned with each other. I also disagree with crumbing a mason partner in general. TLDR, I think there's better places to look, but I wouldn't run it past Math.

Double moonlogic, Math and Flavor are S v S. Given how hard I TR Flavor, I doubt this is a thing. It would depend on Math scum first to even be entertained.

Titus, explain yourself.

[Flavor Leaf]

Let’s generate some noise from which we will derive associations or motives
VOTE: Non Imh

From town's perspective, there's a lot more freedom in choosing what to do, because I know I'm not going to solve the game on page 1. I just need to see content and hopefully it will make sense in retrospect.

DO YOU SEE THE PATTERNS IN THE NOISE NOW? DO YOU?

Bussing your partner in the RVS? Yeah, sure.

[MathBlade]

NPOM, you up

Vanilla Town

@Math - Prove you aren't scum then. You are actively defending someone incorrectly.

Is this a mistake on your part, yes or no?

UNVOTE:

I am not sure if it’s a mistake. I can see why NPOM lies with their crumb but at the same time want them to claim to see if what I saw matched it.

[Flavor Leaf]

Mathblade slipped when they tried to talk about NPOM crumbing a PR when they already claimed VT.

Mathblade replaced in yesterday and didn't know.

[Flavor Leaf]

NPOM, you up

Vanilla Town

@Math - Prove you aren't scum then. You are actively defending someone incorrectly.

Is this a mistake on your part, yes or no?

VOTE: Unvote

I am not sure if it’s a mistake. I can see why NPOM lies with their crumb but at the same time want them to claim to see if what I saw matched it.

I crumb harder as scum than I do town, so if they crumbed something as scum, I fail to see why if you did pick up on it, if you are town, why it couldn't be you picking up exactly what NPOM wanted you to pick up.

See what I'm talking about by looking deeper? This is the level I work at when I am scum on an extreme basic level.

Check out my scum guide if you wanna see what I do as scum, it's in my Sig.

[Rannygazoo]

I'm not going to engage with FL except to VOTE: Flavor Leaf but I pose this question to everyone else: If mathblade and I are scum, whose idea was it to fake mason? Mine or Non Ihm's? Because we crumbed day 1 and that wouldn't be my style as scum. I'd want to keep myself open for different claims because I wouldn't know how to commit to a fake claim so early.

[MathBlade]

Mathblade slipped when they tried to talk about NPOM crumbing a PR when they already claimed VT.

Mathblade replaced in yesterday and didn't know.

??? What the hell are you talking about? There’s a very specific post I am referring to that occurred pre replace in that makes me think they were a PR.

I have not had the time to go through and find all the claims in the game no.

But as a standard I read the beginning and current on replace in.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm not going to engage with FL except to VOTE: Flavor Leaf but I pose this question to everyone else: If mathblade and I are scum, whose idea was it to fake mason? Mine or Non Ihm's? Because we crumbed day 1 and that wouldn't be my style as scum. I'd want to keep myself open for different claims because I wouldn't know how to commit to a fake claim so early.

There is literally nothing in your ISO that shows you were masons prior to Mathblade showing up.

It was Maths idea.