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[TheGoldenParadox]

Vote Count 3.5

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to eliminate.

NoPowerOverMe

(3): Flavor Leaf, Alchemist21, OutWorldER |

L-2

OutWorldER

(2): NoPowerOverMe, MathBlade

no elim

(2): Battle Mage, Rannygazoo

Not Voting

(2): Titus, no elim

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[Flavor Leaf]

I already stated I was lying about my claim, which NPOM TMI’d knew about.

I was calling them out because they were planning on changing their claim.

I have a headache.

So you're not a Neo/VT cop
NPOM objected because he knew it to be false..

Why not too much power problem?

I don't personally think there is too much problem yet without knowing scum roles, and whether or not I'm correct on both of them or not. I don't think it's the collective 3 of them.

I saw that NPOM was trying to change his Vanilla claim, so I claimed it before him to see how he'd react.

[Flavor Leaf]

also, like, Mathblade and NPOM never even considered the fact that I could be scum white knighting Outer, which is another reason I know scum is in the masons or NPOM. Like, it could be all 3, I'm not saying it's not, but it seems too on the nose for me.

[Titus]

NPOM has been deliberate with word choice

actually, this is not even a town thing, this is a scum thing, i dont know why you are pushing this as townie.

Oh no NPOM crumbed something specific imho. I want to see if it pans out.

you caught him out then.

This is the same Math who thought I was crumbing doctor, so I would want to see proof. Yet if NPOM was crumbing a PR while claiming VT that's pretty yeah

[Alchemist21]

Y’all make my head hurt.

I have a headache.

Titus is confTown.

[NoPowerOverMe]

FL: I am neopolitan

Me: No, I am neopolitan

FL: Actually, I'm not a nepolitan, I just said that to make you change your claim.

That doesn't look opportunistic at all.

[Flavor Leaf]

I also can see me tunneling actual Mason Mathblade because I think their logic is incorrect or their solves/pushes are scummy.

[Flavor Leaf]

FL: I am neopolitan

Me: No, I am neopolitan

FL: Actually, I'm not a nepolitan, I just said that to make you change your claim.

That doesn't look opportunistic at all.

I understand that you see this as what happened regardless of your alignment.

[Flavor Leaf]

Y’all make my head hurt.

I have a headache.

Titus is confTown.

conftown me too. I've been dealing with this all night.

[Titus]

Masons AND Neighbors?

Mason is one of those claims that you don't really have to investigate until it gets much later into the game. It's most likely self-resolving. If we get to like 8p left, the mason should claim. (8p is arbitrary number)

Can we get an agreement that no one will suicide anymore? It's frustrating to lose people like that.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure the consensus is against Mathblade at this point. I'm not sure but at the same point if Math's right that's two people who are hard aligned with each other. I also disagree with crumbing a mason partner in general. TLDR, I think there's better places to look, but I wouldn't run it past Math.

Double moonlogic, Math and Flavor are S v S. Given how hard I TR Flavor, I doubt this is a thing. It would depend on Math scum first to even be entertained.

Titus, explain yourself.

Just because I wouldn't do it doesn't mean I blindly ignore the gamestate.

[Titus]

I'm not going to engage with FL except to VOTE: Flavor Leaf but I pose this question to everyone else: If mathblade and I are scum, whose idea was it to fake mason? Mine or Non Ihm's? Because we crumbed day 1 and that wouldn't be my style as scum. I'd want to keep myself open for different claims because I wouldn't know how to commit to a fake claim so early.

Not sure how you get Non crumbed as a mason here.

[MathBlade]

I think Titus is town. But I am rarely listened to day 1.

This here I thought was the novice or naive crumb. I forget which modifier is which.

I expected NPOM to be a n2+ action

[Titus]

I think Titus is town. But I am rarely listened to day 1.

This here I thought was the novice or naive crumb. I forget which modifier is which.

I expected NPOM to be a n2+ action

That's not a crumb.

That's akin to me saying I suck at d1.

[NoPowerOverMe]

It was probably more of a slip than a crumb

[Titus]

Like if the team is exactly NPOM, Math, and Ranny, then yeah.

Math and Ranny slots were also both getting pushed by Titus, and ScumMath NEEDS something or Titus will eventually catch them.

Then how am I still alive? Why didn't I die in place of Johnny? I get the whole d1 wifom but why not d2?

[MathBlade]

I think Titus is town. But I am rarely listened to day 1.

This here I thought was the novice or naive crumb. I forget which modifier is which.

I expected NPOM to be a n2+ action

That's not a crumb.

That's akin to me saying I suck at d1.

Maybe not intentionally. It was one of the reasons I didn’t want to push NPOM though. It happened to be right. I look for crumbs in initial posts. They help shape claims especially when I don’t have time to read a big thread.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like if the team is exactly NPOM, Math, and Ranny, then yeah.

Math and Ranny slots were also both getting pushed by Titus, and ScumMath NEEDS something or Titus will eventually catch them.

Then how am I still alive? Why didn't I die in place of Johnny? I get the whole d1 wifom but why not d2?

Math used Johnny kill to try to push me, then tried to say I was pocketing you, so

I do think Johnny kill was used to frame me, though.

[Flavor Leaf]

I actually do see Titus as being as alive as a point for TownMath, however

[Flavor Leaf]

I just don't know if that's always the choice they make. I can't really remember scumMath.

They said they strategize as scum, and to me, it looks like exactly what this mason claim was. They tried to act like Math would have had to strategize before replacing in, but I don't think so with how fast Day 1 went.

I also really dislike how the Superbowl wagon went at the end of the day.

[MathBlade]

It may just be a happy coincidence that matches.

It could be NPOM Outer FL (my moon logic world)

The much more popular theory matches up with VCA though so I think it makes most sense

[Titus]

Hmmm

I think there’s still something fishy.

Titus when you hop on I have a question for you. It regards a super old game of yours. I just don’t know if I trust you yet and I want to reaction test you.

I'm here now. Just pedit me.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm done for the night most likely.

[Flavor Leaf]

It may just be a happy coincidence that matches.

It could be NPOM Outer FL (my moon logic world)

The much more popular theory matches up with VCA though so I think it makes most sense

If you are implying I would ever look like scum in a game where I was scum by VCA, and Titus was town, and we were both in from the beginning, then you are scum.

[MathBlade]

Hmmm

I think there’s still something fishy.

Titus when you hop on I have a question for you. It regards a super old game of yours. I just don’t know if I trust you yet and I want to reaction test you.

I'm here now. Just pedit me.

So does FL know about your Radiant Cowbells game where you faked a guilty then coasted?

The fishy part is with these role claims. I can’t put my finger on it. I am trying to figure out if he has the meta awareness to do something like that.

[Flavor Leaf]

I don't read games I'm not in unless a player I don't know does something cool, and even then, I just look at post game stuff.