Newbie 2043: Cherfnul - Game Over

[ben dover123]

The way that you post gives me the feeling that you are trying to look town. The difference between being town and trying to look town, IMO, is that scum will try harder to look town. That is the main thing that makes me suspect you a little.

Hmm, not was I was looking for. I meant examples where I try to look town. Try to see if any of my posts have any fake intentions. However, I can agree with the fact that scum that want early towncredit usually try hard to be town. The key point here is that you have to understand what is genuinely town and what isn't.

[Trendall]

@above that is the correct usage of meta

In the same way that your use of the word 'opinion' was correct?

[ben dover123]

@above that is the correct usage of meta

In the same way that your use of the word 'opinion' was correct?

Trendall, I thought we agreed to end this argument! And what does this have to do with anything game related?

[Trendall]

Haha you agreed to that.

[ben dover123]

It is an opinion of terms, I mean. The majority of mafia players do not refer to scum in this way, so I consider it a opinion that some have developed, but whether it is a opinion or a "turn of phrase" as you say, we shall not trifle with this any longer.

We shall, the use of the word 'opinion' here makes no sense whatsoever.

Then what does this post stand for?

[ben dover123]

But that makes an equal difference to the chances of my being town and going for a clidd elimination, no?

Going to answer this question now as well.

SE's that are town are ok with pushing their reads and bringing up other SE wagons D1, but since even scum SE's don't want to be caught on a townlynch wagon and usually are afraid to set a solid stance on a townie, I have

never considered or seen any scum SE try to eliminate another SE D1. However, since you have proclaimed that as scum you also aim for fellow SE eliminations, this opens my eyes to you being a scum SE but also pushing for

another SE elimination.

[Trendall]

I don't make any distinction between SEs and the other players in the game, the label 'SE' means absolutely nothing to me. I judge how competent somebody is at the game by how competent they are at the game, not by whether they're an SE or not.

[Trendall]

Then what does this post stand for?

You said 'we shall not' and I said 'we shall'

[ben dover123]

Then what does this post stand for?

You said 'we shall not' and I said 'we shall'

:thonk:

I'd rather not get in a scruff this early on in the game, thanks. I just believe it would go too off-topic the longer we talk about it.

[ben dover123]

I don't make any distinction between SEs and the other players in the game, the label 'SE' means absolutely nothing to me. I judge how competent somebody is at the game by how competent they are at the game, not by whether they're an SE or not.

Do you understand my viewpoint on how this opens my eyes to a scenario where you are scum pushing an SE elimination? That is the important part of my post, I already understand that you believe the "SE" tag is just a label.

[Trendall]

You know how like...the way that you write, you'll be in the middle of a sentence and

then there's a paragraph break. What's the deal with

that?

[Trendall]

Do you understand my viewpoint on how this opens my eyes to a scenario where you are scum pushing an SE elimination? That is the important part of my post, I already understand that you believe the "SE" tag is just a label.

I understand it, it's just that examples of me wanting to eliminate an SE on day one as town from past games are plentiful. So it's like, I'd do this as town and I'd also do this as mafia. Therefore my doing it isn't a reliable indicator of my alignment at all, it's null information.

[ben dover123]

You know how like...the way that you write, you'll be in the middle of a sentence and

then there's a paragraph break. What's the deal with

that?

Please don't troll me here. I really hate people that intentionally mock me, and I can see the jest behind this post, you know.

The reason for the paragraph break is I double-space all my posts so that it is easier to read for everyone. Sometimes the whole sentence won't fit on one line, so I have to double-space and split the sentence in half. Sorry if it

looks weird, I'm still working on my paragraphs and formal writing.

Do you understand my viewpoint on how this opens my eyes to a scenario where you are scum pushing an SE elimination? That is the important part of my post, I already understand that you believe the "SE" tag is just a label.

I understand it, it's just that examples of me wanting to eliminate an SE on day one as town from past games are plentiful. So it's like, I'd do this as town and I'd also do this as mafia. Therefore my doing it isn't a reliable indicator of my alignment at all, it's null information.

Yeah, that is basically my point. I can't TR you for attacking a SE elim, so now attacking an SE elim is NAI.

[Trendall]

I am so bloody confused

[Trendall]

I mean I illustrated it like that because I have no idea what's going on there and I wasn't even sure if you yourself were aware that that formatting error was taking place so it just makes it clearer, I can't see what about that is 'mocking'.

[ben dover123]

I mean I illustrated it like that because I have no idea what's going on there and I wasn't even sure if you yourself were aware that that formatting error was taking place so it just makes it clearer, I can't see what about that is 'mocking'.

Sigh...Sorry for the kind of overreaction, I was mocked in my other game for my formatting as well. Got some bad memories.

Yes, I am aware of the "error", I'm still trying to find the right balance between correct formatting and easy to read posts.

[Trendall]

And it was an on-topic question because I needed to work out whether it was a good use of my time or not looking at that for breadcrumbs.

Don't worry, I get it. Actually I can't bear hurting people's feelings, if I ever do I feel bad about it for like three days.

[Trendall]

Actually I can't bear hurting people's feelings

Which begs the question as to why I choose to write in such a blunt and abrupt manner I guess but whatever

[ben dover123]

And it was an on-topic question because I needed to work out whether it was a good use of my time or not looking at that for breadcrumbs.

Don't worry, I get it. Actually I can't bear hurting people's feelings, if I ever do I feel bad about it for like three days.

No, I'm extremely bad at breadcrumbs anyways, so I'm not pulling a fast one on you like that.

[ben dover123]

Anyways, I hate to say it but there is not much we can do about all the afk slots rn. The one slot I think we can get some reactions out of is NotAJumbleofNumbers, thus is one of the reasons I am pressuring him. Other than that, there isn't much we can do. I'm going to do some rereading and see if I pick anything up.

[clidd]

He... He-llo..

Pl.. Players.. Afk..

Repl.. Replace..

Ben... Tren... Town..

[ben dover123]

Going to sleep now, see you all tomorrow!

Also, @above I agree. Get rid of these afk people, I hate flakers.

[Trendall]

Goodnight!

[Chumbo]

@clidd: What exactly gives you a town read on Trendall? Most of the content he has posted is just arguing with Ben about "opinion vs turn of phrase" and SE elimination on Day 1. No reads, not many questions.
I see him as null right now.

@Trendall: Do you have any reads right now?

I'm going to be working on Ben's question at the top of this page now.

[Trendall]

I meant to ask clidd if there was any particular reason why he thinks ben is town because I could do with a second opinion on that.