Why are you not considering NPOM town?In post 1698, Titus wrote:I was kinda hoping you would defend Battle Mage so I could con Mathblade into eliminating him correctly. What really pinged me (aside from our earlier fights) is his historical vote pattern. He's third on NPOM on earlier days, but when the time comes back, he votes Outer instead. He then scurries off (likely because IRL but still).In post 1695, Flavor Leaf wrote:I didn’t have anything with Battle Mage that pinged me, however, i do normally town read him when he is town, and his Outer vote does make sense as scum, so NPOM/Battle Mage does make sense. I don’t think either Outer or Alchemist are bussing NPOM, so that means it’s probably NPOM/BM/No Elim.
Which sucks because the masons give NPOM strength.
Alternatively, I’m wrong on Outer, but I need within NPOM and the masons today.
Outer would likely only be scum with NPOM anyway because Outer claiming not VT gives NPOM's claim some legitimacy because it would be accurate.
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This is princess bride worthy.In post 1697, MathBlade wrote:I don’t give scum what they want.
You and Flavor Leaf each must drink a glass to exit a room. (Don't cheat the premise.) Flavor Leaf knows which is poisoned.
He tells you "Drink the one on your left."
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I did attempt to entertain it last night.In post 1700, MathBlade wrote:
Why are you not considering NPOM town?In post 1698, Titus wrote:
I was kinda hoping you would defend Battle Mage so I could con Mathblade into eliminating him correctly. What really pinged me (aside from our earlier fights) is his historical vote pattern. He's third on NPOM on earlier days, but when the time comes back, he votes Outer instead. He then scurries off (likely because IRL but still).In post 1695, Flavor Leaf wrote:I didn’t have anything with Battle Mage that pinged me, however, i do normally town read him when he is town, and his Outer vote does make sense as scum, so NPOM/Battle Mage does make sense. I don’t think either Outer or Alchemist are bussing NPOM, so that means it’s probably NPOM/BM/No Elim.
Which sucks because the masons give NPOM strength.
Alternatively, I’m wrong on Outer, but I need within NPOM and the masons today.
Outer would likely only be scum with NPOM anyway because Outer claiming not VT gives NPOM's claim some legitimacy because it would be accurate.
The issues with his claim are too volumnious.
The vote wagon history is too bad.
The fact that the Ben wagon should have scum on it somewhere.
Battle Mage's vote patterns.
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So this means we should fade Battle Mage right?In post 1702, Flavor Leaf wrote:I don’t really want a Battle Mage fade today, that’s just going to cause tomorrow to be between NPOM and Masons for me.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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It depends on who he’s been hawking it to. Let’s call NPOM the drink on the left.In post 1701, Titus wrote:
This is princess bride worthy.In post 1697, MathBlade wrote:I don’t give scum what they want.
You and Flavor Leaf each must drink a glass to exit a room. (Don't cheat the premise.) Flavor Leaf knows which is poisoned.
He tells you "Drink the one on your left."
Do you drink the one on your right, solely because you think Flavor is scum? If so, that makes you very easy to manipulate.
He was hawking NPOM scum soon as NPOM voted him in the 300s. He and Alch have been coordinated on this before I came in. It’s not a fair comparison.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Ben wagon does have scum in Alch and FL and OuterIn post 308, TheGoldenParadox wrote:ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Vote wagon analysis...
Two scum are not going to start a counterwagon when they could just get on superbowl instead that's driven by two town.
Ben's wagon was driven by his implosion, which NPOM jumped on.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Possible but Alch is more likely and one of Titus/FL being town derp is more likely.In post 1708, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Probably fl ower Titus is the scumteam.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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You realize that NPOM's scumteam just happens to be three players who aren't going to vote each other prior to his flip right? It's pretty blatantly transparent.In post 1709, MathBlade wrote:
Possible but Alch is more likely and one of Titus/FL being town derp is more likely.In post 1708, NoPowerOverMe wrote:Probably fl ower Titus is the scumteam.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Their join date has zero to do with their personality.In post 1712, MathBlade wrote:Look at the join date Titus. They’re a newb. They’re probably a me who suspects everyone who suspects them badly.
You're pitying them because they remind you of you. That's not evidence Math. Look at their play.
You can't suppose they're town in the justification.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Let’s try this another way.
Assume NPOM scum and Outer town like you’re theorizing.
Why does NPOM scum claim a guilty on Outer who is town?
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NPOM didn't claim a guilty. NPOM claimed that Outer was just not a VT.In post 1716, MathBlade wrote:Let’s try this another way.
Assume NPOM scum and Outer town like you’re theorizing.
Why does NPOM scum claim a guilty on Outer who is town?
It’s a bad scum move unless preplanned agreed?
Outer then verified the claim as a bg claim.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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Okay fine. Why does NPOM scum do that? I said earlier any other PR claim was going to be suspicious.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Exactly. (Well minus the me lying part) This if NPOM scum is 100% designed for me to elim them. So if I assume NPOM is scum I don’t want to do that whoever scum is. NPOM could be scum but if we elim Outer we can demonstrate this is indeed what scum wanted or if I force scum to be on NPOM same thing occurs.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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Get a buddy bus cred? Survive because a VT claim likely wouldn't?In post 1718, MathBlade wrote:Okay fine. Why does NPOM scum do that? I said earlier any other PR claim was going to be suspicious.
The why depends on his teammates and what their objective is. My big theory is to bus him, but they could have just relied on you hard townreading NPOM.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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TLDRIn post 1721, MathBlade wrote:Exactly. (Well minus the me lying part) This if NPOM scum is 100% designed for me to elim them. So if I assume NPOM is scum I don’t want to do that whoever scum is. NPOM could be scum but if we elim Outer we can demonstrate this is indeed what scum wanted or if I force scum to be on NPOM same thing occurs.
Or just NPOM is scum because a) he lied and b) too much power
We don't need to eliminate town to get at scum.ShowThe scum had the misfortune of Titus being absurdly accurate on day one.Really quite impressed by that.~Drixx
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I agree. NPOM if scum is absolutely a bus.In post 1722, Titus wrote:
Get a buddy bus cred? Survive because a VT claim likely wouldn't?In post 1718, MathBlade wrote:Okay fine. Why does NPOM scum do that? I said earlier any other PR claim was going to be suspicious.
The why depends on his teammates and what their objective is. My big theory is to bus him, but they could have just relied on you hard townreading NPOM.
So if NPOM is scum I am going to force almost if not the entire scum team to do so.ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841
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