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[Titus]

Okay fine. Why does NPOM scum do that? I said earlier any other PR claim was going to be suspicious.

Get a buddy bus cred? Survive because a VT claim likely wouldn't?

The why depends on his teammates and what their objective is. My big theory is to bus him, but they could have just relied on you hard townreading NPOM.

I agree. NPOM if scum is absolutely a bus.

So if NPOM is scum I am going to force almost if not the entire scum team to do so.

Except you're not.

Basic math

Two masons plus three mafia = 5.
Even if the rest of the town agreed, we'd still have to get a busser onto NPOM. That's why BM isn't voting NPOM today but he was yesterday.

[NoPowerOverMe]

If you elim me because of LAL then that is pretty bad play.

[MathBlade]

Okay fine. Why does NPOM scum do that? I said earlier any other PR claim was going to be suspicious.

Get a buddy bus cred? Survive because a VT claim likely wouldn't?

The why depends on his teammates and what their objective is. My big theory is to bus him, but they could have just relied on you hard townreading NPOM.

I agree. NPOM if scum is absolutely a bus.

So if NPOM is scum I am going to force almost if not the entire scum team to do so.

Except you're not.

Basic math

Two masons plus three mafia = 5.
Even if the rest of the town agreed, we'd still have to get a busser onto NPOM. That's why BM isn't voting NPOM today but he was yesterday.

That’s my point exactly.

If scum all dogpile on outer and outer flips town then we know NPOM was scum and not a bus or the busser has to move.

If scum all dogpile on NPOM then we know scum did.

Mainly we learn a lot going into elo by what scum do here.

[Flavor Leaf]

I can't wait to actually be scum against Math

[Titus]

If you elim me because of LAL then that is pretty bad play.

You're not being eliminated based on LaL. {Btw, this is a common scum tactic to misframe the arguement.}

You're being eliminated because of your lie plus
You're being eliminated based on your vote history plus
You're being eliminated based on your lie not having any redeeming value
You're being eliminated because your reason for trying to get a shot off makes no sense
You're being eliminated because of trying to take credit for FL is just non-sense
You're being eliminated because of your OMGUS and reflexive proclamations of the scumteam, but still being willing to do Alch
You're being eliminated for buddying Mathblade.

[Titus]

Okay fine. Why does NPOM scum do that? I said earlier any other PR claim was going to be suspicious.

Get a buddy bus cred? Survive because a VT claim likely wouldn't?

The why depends on his teammates and what their objective is. My big theory is to bus him, but they could have just relied on you hard townreading NPOM.

I agree. NPOM if scum is absolutely a bus.

So if NPOM is scum I am going to force almost if not the entire scum team to do so.

Except you're not.

Basic math

Two masons plus three mafia = 5.
Even if the rest of the town agreed, we'd still have to get a busser onto NPOM. That's why BM isn't voting NPOM today but he was yesterday.

That’s my point exactly.

If scum all dogpile on outer and outer flips town then we know NPOM was scum and not a bus or the busser has to move.

If scum all dogpile on NPOM then we know scum did.

Mainly we learn a lot going into elo by what scum do here.

So great, why can't we just all dogpile NPOM then?

[Titus]

I can't wait to actually be scum against Math

I'd respond to this, but I'm just very frustrated with them.

It's getting right up there with being willing to policy them but we can't do that either. Either Mathblade comes around, or we likely lose this game.

[Titus]

We don't need to go into Elo Math.

You and I agree NPOM can be scum. Let's save the misfire for someone like Battle Mage.

[MathBlade]

Okay fine. Why does NPOM scum do that? I said earlier any other PR claim was going to be suspicious.

Get a buddy bus cred? Survive because a VT claim likely wouldn't?

The why depends on his teammates and what their objective is. My big theory is to bus him, but they could have just relied on you hard townreading NPOM.

I agree. NPOM if scum is absolutely a bus.

So if NPOM is scum I am going to force almost if not the entire scum team to do so.

Except you're not.

Basic math

Two masons plus three mafia = 5.
Even if the rest of the town agreed, we'd still have to get a busser onto NPOM. That's why BM isn't voting NPOM today but he was yesterday.

That’s my point exactly.

If scum all dogpile on outer and outer flips town then we know NPOM was scum and not a bus or the busser has to move.

If scum all dogpile on NPOM then we know scum did.

Mainly we learn a lot going into elo by what scum do here.

So great, why can't we just all dogpile NPOM then?

Because then IF NPOM is scum we learn nothing.
If NPOM is town we then have to elim Outer and FL (or you) and Alch in quick succession which is most likely the scum team and the way you absolutely refuse to seriously consider than gives me 0 hope of that happening.

[MathBlade]

I can't wait to actually be scum against Math

I'd respond to this, but I'm just very frustrated with them.

It's getting right up there with being willing to policy them but we can't do that either. Either Mathblade comes around, or we likely lose this game.

That’s where I am at with you and NPOM

[NoPowerOverMe]

If you think it doesn't make sense its because you're not thinking it through or because you're just scum.

[Battle Mage]

Titus is trying to elim me here? eh, i dunno at what stage I should start taking this personally.

The only possible town ower solution is scum has a buttload of power.

^basically this.

My hero solve is something like: OutWorldER + 2 of Flavor Leaf/Titus/No Elim

However I also think from a balance perspective, either OutWorldER or the masons are lying. I'm wary of the fact Math survived last night, and also I had thought his partner was OutWorldER based on his crumbing which threw me off. But happy to do OutWorldER today and go from there, especially given Math seems to be doing the Lord's work today.

can someone do a quick summary of claims for me?

[Titus]

@Math, Right now, we need to just eliminate scum.

If Outer is town, we have to eliminate in quick succession and you won't do BattleMage soooo...

Let's take the scum where we can, then move to the next step. Scum will have to pair down the theories with the NK.

[MathBlade]

@Math, Right now, we need to just eliminate scum.

If Outer is town, we have to eliminate in quick succession and you won't do BattleMage soooo...

Let's take the scum where we can, then move to the next step. Scum will have to pair down the theories with the NK.

Yes.

So pretty much we’re fucked unless someone budges.

[Blade Dancer]

@Math, Right now, we need to just eliminate scum.

If Outer is town, we have to eliminate in quick succession and you won't do BattleMage soooo...

Let's take the scum where we can, then move to the next step. Scum will have to pair down the theories with the NK.

Yes.

So pretty much we’re fucked unless someone budges.

So, why don't you budge in the direction you think is actually possible? Like you're holding the game hostage for ideal instead of possible and town all has to compromise. I already am compromising off of Battle Mage.

[Titus]

@Math, Right now, we need to just eliminate scum.

If Outer is town, we have to eliminate in quick succession and you won't do BattleMage soooo...

Let's take the scum where we can, then move to the next step. Scum will have to pair down the theories with the NK.

Yes.

So pretty much we’re fucked unless someone budges.

So, why don't you budge in the direction you think is actually possible? Like you're holding the game hostage for ideal instead of possible and town all has to compromise. I already am compromising off of Battle Mage.

[Flavor Leaf]

Titus is trying to elim me here? eh, i dunno at what stage I should start taking this personally.

The only possible town ower solution is scum has a buttload of power.

^basically this.

My hero solve is something like: OutWorldER + 2 of Flavor Leaf/Titus/No Elim

However I also think from a balance perspective, either OutWorldER or the masons are lying. I'm wary of the fact Math survived last night, and also I had thought his partner was OutWorldER based on his crumbing which threw me off. But happy to do OutWorldER today and go from there, especially given Math seems to be doing the Lord's work today.

can someone do a quick summary of claims for me?

Dude, NPOM is like confirmed scum.

He claimed Vanilla yesterday, then changed it to Neapolitan after I called him out on him trying to change roles. And he's been acting dumb about it all day phase since.

Math is incorrectly derp tunneling or scum.

[Battle Mage]

I'm fine with being elimmed tomorrow if OutWorldER flips town.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm fine with being elimmed tomorrow if OutWorldER flips town.

I don't really want either of you flipped.

I want NPOM or the Masons. If Outer is flipped, and is town, I will not be moving my vote off of Mathblade.

[Battle Mage]

Titus is trying to elim me here? eh, i dunno at what stage I should start taking this personally.

The only possible town ower solution is scum has a buttload of power.

^basically this.

My hero solve is something like: OutWorldER + 2 of Flavor Leaf/Titus/No Elim

However I also think from a balance perspective, either OutWorldER or the masons are lying. I'm wary of the fact Math survived last night, and also I had thought his partner was OutWorldER based on his crumbing which threw me off. But happy to do OutWorldER today and go from there, especially given Math seems to be doing the Lord's work today.

can someone do a quick summary of claims for me?

Dude, NPOM is like confirmed scum.

He claimed Vanilla yesterday, then changed it to Neapolitan after I called him out on him trying to change roles. And he's been acting dumb about it all day phase since.

Math is incorrectly derp tunneling or scum.

this is helpful, can you ping me some quotes on NPOM?

I mean Math is voting OutWorldER-scum so hard to criticise him for that.

Has everyone claimed? I really want a list of the claims...

[Battle Mage]

I'm fine with being elimmed tomorrow if OutWorldER flips town.

I don't really want either of you flipped.

I want NPOM or the Masons. If Outer is flipped, and is town, I will not be moving my vote off of Mathblade.

I'm non-negotiable on Outer, take from that what you will.

[Flavor Leaf]

NPOM claimed Even-Night Neapolitan after claiming Vanilla yesterday, Not Vanilla on Outer.

Outer claimed Indecisive Doctor.

that's all the PR's.

[MathBlade]

@Math, Right now, we need to just eliminate scum.

If Outer is town, we have to eliminate in quick succession and you won't do BattleMage soooo...

Let's take the scum where we can, then move to the next step. Scum will have to pair down the theories with the NK.

Yes.

So pretty much we’re fucked unless someone budges.

So, why don't you budge in the direction you think is actually possible? Like you're holding the game hostage for ideal instead of possible and town all has to compromise. I already am compromising off of Battle Mage.

As I already said

It’s between NPOM or Outer.

If who we’re not on gets elimmed scum is confirmed on it.
If who we’re on gets elimmed and is town we’re proven wrong and the read is shit.
If who we’re on gets elimmed and is scum then scum aren’t on it then this hard fought elim is proper and NPOM is likely town.

By joining you on what is possibly a miselim based on how Outer responded we learn nothing except I am a sucker for you begging despite ignoring there is no viable scenario scum elim does this except a bus

[MathBlade]

NPOM claimed Even-Night Neapolitan after claiming Vanilla yesterday, Not Vanilla on Outer.

Outer claimed Indecisive Doctor.

that's all the PR's.

Incorrect Ranny and I are masons

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm fine with being elimmed tomorrow if OutWorldER flips town.

I don't really want either of you flipped.

I want NPOM or the Masons. If Outer is flipped, and is town, I will not be moving my vote off of Mathblade.

I'm non-negotiable on Outer, take from that what you will.

Then I think you're scum defending confirmed scum NPOM and doesn't realize he's confirmed scum or does, but you just have the mason's derping in your corner.