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[Glitch]

Umlaut was the NK??????????????????????????????????????

Why are you so surprised?? Umlaut so bleeding town. It was unbelievably obvious.

DGB is probably the best bet imho for scum. Best pool tor today includes {DGB, IV, unwnd, ABR, NPOM}. Off the table for me are {Vax, Gamma, Starbuck} today. DGB is my preference.

[innocentvillager]

Umlaut was the NK??????????????????????????????????????

Why are you so surprised?? Umlaut so bleeding town. It was unbelievably obvious.

DGB is probably the best bet imho for scum. Best pool tor today includes {DGB, IV, unwnd, ABR, NPOM}. Off the table for me are {Vax, Gamma, Starbuck} today. DGB is my preference.

okay dgb now will you vote for glitch?

[innocentvillager]

this almost reads like glitch is like offended that dgb is insulting the kill choice, lol

[Glitch]

dgb would you consider voting glitch?

If you have an actual argument then we can discuss things but honestly if you just want to lynch another lurker every day until game over its not going to end up with a win. Scum will hop on that so fast and run with it.

If you're actually town I have higher expectations of you to actually try to engage me and attempt to sort me rather than just advocate my lynch because I'm not active enough for you. That's cheap reasoning for town (no offense) and you can do better. Lynching lurkers has landed us where we are.

What are some actual reasons you think I'm scummy that aren't "he's a lurker?"

[innocentvillager]

I don’t get the sense that you care about solving the game. your pop ins are like “barely enough” to keep up the activity. Scum you doesn’t need to try, you’re doing pretty well. But the occasional, periodically spaced popins are robotic and have no interesting content in them

[Glitch]

this almost reads like glitch is like offended that dgb is insulting the kill choice, lol

Umlaut was my top TR, and I expect slots who are heavily TR'd to be on the chopping block. Umlaut had good standing with a lot of players, so why is DGB surprised?? It comes across as scum theater overreacting to try and look town.

Playing scum requires walking a fine line between looking not too scummy and not too towny. If you're too towny then everyone will wonder why you haven't died. If you're too scummy everyone will vote you off.

Umlaut was not balanced like that. Obvtown = not a surprising kill

[innocentvillager]

Lynching lurkers has landed us where we are.

lol what? you mean, it wasn’t the previous two elims?

[innocentvillager]

Umlaut so bleeding town. It was unbelievably obvious.

this was, uh, very strong language

yes he was one of the towniest slots in the game, but going further than that seems remarkably tmi.

[innocentvillager]

also RL aside: hope your anniversary went well!

[innocentvillager]

dgb and unwnd probably town. More confidence in the former rn

[unwnd]

VOTE: gamma emerald

Has been on all three town wagons

This is the best post so far made this phase

[unwnd]

I mean, that is clearly a reason

But there are more reasons

[innocentvillager]

im not excited to play this game anymore

is it just because we’re losing? isn’t part of the fun in this game to take a losing game and turn it around?

[unwnd]

ABR is feigning, don't worry about it

[innocentvillager]

unwnd can you share your thoughts?

Gamma has been like... fine in my eyes but their activity dropping off a cliff lately looks meh. So I’m willing to reconsider them

still think emotional scumrange he leans town, as we discussed before briefly

[DrippingGoofball]

dgb would you consider voting glitch?

Convince me.

[DrippingGoofball]

this almost reads like glitch is like offended that dgb is insulting the kill choice, lol

Right? Like the scum shot Umlaut because THEY thought Umlaut was the towniest.

I never held that opinion, personally.

[innocentvillager]

does anything about glitch seem like, townie? i feel like this is just one of those textbook scum slots. Nothing crazy sticking out. Lower activity than normal but not completely gone because team is doing well, so why replace out. Complains periodically about the game moving too fast and not being able to catch up. No interesting takes. Has been passive and in “commentary mode” all game, doesn’t really care about his solves or his pushes or have much interesting content

[Glitch]

I don’t get the sense that you care about solving the game. your pop ins are like “barely enough” to keep up the activity. Scum you doesn’t need to try, you’re doing pretty well. But the occasional, periodically spaced popins are robotic and have no interesting content in them

I can appreciate this. "Glitch is lurker let's lynch him," just seems lazy and scummy. This seems like a case with thought behind it rather than being shallow and looking for an easy lynch.

Your point is fine, I understand that my low activity can come across that way. Unfortunately I just haven't had the time to high effort it this game, and believe me, town and scum glitch both prefer high efforting.

My solve right now is based off of slots that have pinged me throughout the game. You particularly pinged me early game but in the latter half have stepped it up a bit I'm my TR department xD. DGB has been consistently questionable, however, and my experience with her makes me question her more just because I've seen her as town be scum MVP and I don't see it yet particularly with no scum flips. I feel like by POE she comes out as the best elim though.

Vaxkiller is bleeding town as well. That slot is so incredibly town I don't think the scum would have a chance to get a wagon to go through on that slot.

[innocentvillager]

There is probably nothing individually AI in there. It is simply the aggregate profile of the classic textbook scum and the kind that raises red flags the most for me. there are some scum who break this mold and admittedly they are harder to read for me. But I feel like this slot is starting to fit the mold, the more I look at it, and the more the pool dwindles down

[DrippingGoofball]

Theoretical question, so to speak, addressed to everyone:

- How do you expect scum to react to a Guillo's claim?

[unwnd]

Look at Gamma and the fact he isn't here right now and that should already be a good start.

I did an extensive dive on a few players and I'm very convinced that Gamma is just scum here. As another point, look at the way he has participated throughout the last day and previous days. His posts reads like scum who feels isolated from a town mindset, therefore he just surrounds himself in the noise in order to fit in. It's not that you need to be provcating a lim or that aggression is inherently townie, it is how you use it. I believe that even the most passive townies are driven by some sort of pursuit and has a measure to get to their reads. Gamma changes his mind based on what the thread is doing and nothing else. This is especially bad if you know Gamma. Town are not afraid to make critical positions in the thread even if someone disagrees. Gamma has just been finding him in the middle of conversations to hide, then when it seems like nobody is paying attention he justifies a poor vote onto the leading wagon repeat this for 3 days

[DrippingGoofball]

does anything about glitch seem like, townie? i feel like this is just one of those textbook scum slots. Nothing crazy sticking out. Lower activity than normal but not completely gone because team is doing well, so why replace out. Complains periodically about the game moving too fast and not being able to catch up. No interesting takes. Has been passive and in “commentary mode” all game, doesn’t really care about his solves or his pushes or have much interesting content

Could be.

I want to look at everyone again. I want to re read the game.

[innocentvillager]

idk, I do get into these confbiased tunnels sometimes on this specific kind of scum. It is possible that glitch just has this style as either alignment. Nevertheless I think this is a good wagon.

[DrippingGoofball]

Look at Gamma and the fact he isn't here right now and that should already be a good start.

I did an extensive dive on a few players and I'm very convinced that Gamma is just scum here. As another point, look at the way he has participated throughout the last day and previous days. His posts reads like scum who feels isolated from a town mindset, therefore he just surrounds himself in the noise in order to fit in. It's not that you need to be provcating a lim or that aggression is inherently townie, it is how you use it. I believe that even the most passive townies are driven by some sort of pursuit and has a measure to get to their reads. Gamma changes his mind based on what the thread is doing and nothing else. This is especially bad if you know Gamma. Town are not afraid to make critical positions in the thread even if someone disagrees. Gamma has just been finding him in the middle of conversations to hide, then when it seems like nobody is paying attention he justifies a poor vote onto the leading wagon repeat this for 3 days

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You may be onto something, do you have examples?