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[NoPowerOverMe]

The flavor leaf ow connection makes ow guilty

[MathBlade]

That’s a read not a guilty though. Granted I see the connection and has merit but it isn’t a guilty.

[Rannygazoo]

Ok, didn’t mean to derail the thread.

I've been scumreading leaf and ow since ow hammered and leaf called himlocktown

What if it’s possible it’s just BM and you and Outer are both town?

NPOM, can you imagine a world where BM is scum and Outer is town? Would that mean FL has to be town too?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I can imagine it but it's not likely in my opinion

[MathBlade]

Titus, no elim, and Alch please claim.

[Alchemist21]

VT

[Blade Dancer]

VT

[Titus]

VT

[Rannygazoo]

I figure it's obvious to scum that I'm a PR at this point anyway so I'll do my proper claim.

Hey BM why do you think this would be obvious to scum or to anyone? I didn’t see where you crumbed it.

[MathBlade]

VT

Hey Titus, random weird thought, what if there’s 4 scum and this is Elo?

Before you knee jerk and say we’re scum Ranny and I both demonstrated online.

[NoPowerOverMe]

There's 4 scum they better have no power roles

[NoPowerOverMe]

It could be three scum and a one shot serial killer that hasn't killed yet

[MathBlade]

It could be three scum and a one shot serial killer that hasn't killed yet

Can’t be SK. Not normal.

It’s all one group.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Actually serial killer is normal according to wiki

[MathBlade]

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Normal_Game

No. Game started with 13.
Minimum 14 required for 3P.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Ah

[Titus]

VT

Hey Titus, random weird thought, what if there’s 4 scum and this is Elo?

Before you knee jerk and say we’re scum Ranny and I both demonstrated online.

No. Four scum would dictate no power roles for balance. A two shot roleblocker indicates scum have something to block. We aren't going to have limited shots and a negative utility with four scum.

[MathBlade]

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Moderator: TheGoldenParadox
Reviewers: mastina and schadd_

phase

The game is currently in

Day 3

deadline

The current phase ends in

(expired on 2020-12-13 20:25:07)

Player	Status	Role	Fate
Non lmh* Mathblade	Alive
benhalkum	Dead	Town 2-Shot Roleblocker	Eliminated Day 1
Battle Mage	Alive
OutWorldER	Alive
hessian* no elim	Alive
wiyvern** JohnnyFarrar	Dead	Vanilla Townie	Killed Night 2
NoPowerOverMe	Alive
Rannygazoo	Alive
superbowl9	Dead	Town Fruit Vendor	Eliminated Day 2
Titus	Alive
Flavor Leaf	Alive
Alchemist21	Alive
Andresvmb	Dead	Town 2-shot Neighborizer	Killed Night 1

* indicates a prod. Bolded means confirmed.

Spoiler: Spectators

Dkkoba
mastina
Albert B. Rampage

Spoiler: Votecounter Settings

Living Players

MathBlade (replaces Non lmh)
Battle Mage
OutWorldER
no elim (replaces hessian)
NoPowerOverMe
Rannygazoo
Titus
Flavor Leaf
Alchemist21

Links

Day 3 - Post 1172

Can you help me find the two shot scum roleblocker please?

[Titus]

There isn't one listed. I think you misunderstood. Town isn't going to have a two shot rb without scum having power roles. Otherwise, the roleblocker is negative utility. I can't see town having to deal with four scum, a negative utility, and limited shots.

[MathBlade]

What’s the negative utility?

[Titus]

What’s the negative utility?

The roleblocker in a 4 scum setup. They'd all have to be goons to balance which makes it more likely the rb fucks with town rather than scum.

[MathBlade]

Titus let me be blunt here. You’re acting an awful lot like a fourth scum and this is ELO.

I get both NPOM’s and BM’s claims are suspect as fuck. But the fact you’re literally waiting out in the wings for a quick hammer (your words) instead of voting NPOM when in your world there is no way I could be scum is sus as fuck.

You’re not even considering traitor which is normal, and I don’t know if the above is a slip.

Give me a reason by play you’re town here. Not mechanics. Play.

[MathBlade]

I have to hop in the shower and run errands but convince me you’re not scum with FL Outer and Alch by play.

[Blade Dancer]

Because it's hard enough to convince you to actually get off your high horse, sneaking in a hammer on scum might be the only way to do it.

As for distancing away from the names you mentioned, I won't because that's most likely the town team. I have minor Alch reservations, but I'd put Alch town over non elim atm.

[Blade Dancer]

You need to get out of your own way Math. You're trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. There's no 4 scum situation. Stop trying to fit the facts to your reads and fit your reads to the facts. This is why you frustrate people and are so often wrong.