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[MathBlade]

Good now we can confirm scum on NPOM if Titus derp hammers/scum hammers

[NoPowerOverMe]

FL has no logical reasoning for continuing his push on me besides being scum himself.

[Battle Mage]

I’m back to thinking Masons and NPOM.

They can’t be this delusional as town, they just can’t.

I hear ya on the delusional bit, but even if they were the most inept scum, surely they would have taken the easy win from back to back OWER and BM flips.

[MathBlade]

If she does FL/Titus + BM is very important regardless of NPOM flip. Still sorting them

[Battle Mage]

FL has no logical reasoning for continuing his push on me besides being scum himself.

i apologise dude, as I do think you're town (albeit you've been scummy town at times, as discussed on Day 2!). I just think it's a lost cause because I'm the only one posting who thinks that, and there's 3 people about to hammer you anyway.

[MathBlade]

Battle Mage, vote NPOM.

Scum fell apart here and admitted it imho Titus

If NPOM is town or scum I think having me hold the vote worked beautifully

[MathBlade]

FL has no logical reasoning for continuing his push on me besides being scum himself.

i apologise dude, as I do think you're town (albeit you've been scummy town at times, as discussed on Day 2!). I just think it's a lost cause because I'm the only one posting who thinks that, and there's 3 people about to hammer you anyway.

Actually no. I think NPOM could be town here

I am slow playing this for reactions and possibly elim Outer

The fact you moved is HUGE and Titus’s response is VERY important

[Rannygazoo]

BM, maybe chill and wait for what no elim has to say? Sounds like a false consensus to me.

[MathBlade]

If anyone hammers it would be Titus and/or no elim.

I would never hammer without an inactive slot checking in

[NoPowerOverMe]

This is not the time for will of the town. You eliminate me town loses in all probability.

[MathBlade]

This is not the time for will of the town. You eliminate me town loses in all probability.

I have done this before. Granted it works better in F2F mafia here.

When/If elim happens based on your alignment shit’s gonna break.

[Battle Mage]

FL has no logical reasoning for continuing his push on me besides being scum himself.

i apologise dude, as I do think you're town (albeit you've been scummy town at times, as discussed on Day 2!). I just think it's a lost cause because I'm the only one posting who thinks that, and there's 3 people about to hammer you anyway.

Actually no. I think NPOM could be town here

I am slow playing this for reactions and possibly elim Outer

The fact you moved is HUGE and Titus’s response is VERY important

I assumed you would say this, because you've decided I'm scum for no good reason, and are reading everything else through that incorrect lens.

[MathBlade]

FL has no logical reasoning for continuing his push on me besides being scum himself.

i apologise dude, as I do think you're town (albeit you've been scummy town at times, as discussed on Day 2!). I just think it's a lost cause because I'm the only one posting who thinks that, and there's 3 people about to hammer you anyway.

Actually no. I think NPOM could be town here

I am slow playing this for reactions and possibly elim Outer

The fact you moved is HUGE and Titus’s response is VERY important

I assumed you would say this, because you've decided I'm scum for no good reason, and are reading everything else through that incorrect lens.

Arguing with you about my read right now is counter productive.

Titus! I subpoena you! Look at the shiny wagon!!!

[NoPowerOverMe]

THe basis of FL's argument is NPOM is scum because I said so.

[Battle Mage]

FL has no logical reasoning for continuing his push on me besides being scum himself.

i apologise dude, as I do think you're town (albeit you've been scummy town at times, as discussed on Day 2!). I just think it's a lost cause because I'm the only one posting who thinks that, and there's 3 people about to hammer you anyway.

Actually no. I think NPOM could be town here

I am slow playing this for reactions and possibly elim Outer

The fact you moved is HUGE and Titus’s response is VERY important

I assumed you would say this, because you've decided I'm scum for no good reason, and are reading everything else through that incorrect lens.

Arguing with you about my read right now is counter productive.

Titus! I subpoena you! Look at the shiny wagon!!!

Clearly you considered actually engaging with me in any meaningful way was counter-productive.

[Flavor Leaf]

THe basis of FL's argument is NPOM is scum because I said so.

Active hard misrep.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m back to thinking Masons and NPOM.

They can’t be this delusional as town, they just can’t.

I hear ya on the delusional bit, but even if they were the most inept scum, surely they would have taken the easy win from back to back OWER and BM flips.

I wouldn’t have given that to them.

[Titus]

Did someone say subpoena?

VOTE: NPOM

[MathBlade]

Titus what did you think of the slip?

[Titus]

Which one?

[MathBlade]

can you just look at the claims please, and tell me setup-wise what makes sense - 1 protective and investigative on alternating nights - yes. 2 protectives which overlap awkwardly - no. that's essentially what this boils down to. i only 'crumbed' when i knew it was necessary to risk outting my role to get OWER-elimmed. it doesn't make sense for me to do that as a gambit to save hypothetical partner NPOM when it buys me maximum of 1 mis-elim for 2 consecutive scum elims, or potentially 2 consecutive scum-elims and conftowning somebody else.

If you are masons, think about the permutations here - what makes sense in terms of setup and also the way each player has approached it. It's not like

BM

doesn't fakeclaim as town often if there's a reason, and it's pretty obvious that the manner I claimed VT (under no pressure, and using the excuse of being neighbourhooded to make it believable) was just to stop me being NKed. My role is alternate night so it kinda relies on me surviving a few night phases to get value from it.

That’s an odd way to refer to yourself. Bold is me

What do you mean which one? You think there’s multiples?

[Titus]

Oh that's child's play. The whole changing claims are the big ones. Whatever got you here though. Not quibbling.

[MathBlade]

Oh that's child's play. The whole changing claims are the big ones. Whatever got you here though. Not quibbling.

It matters because I think it confirms FL+BM.
Rammy isn’t so sure that’s a slip and thinks Outer is the better elim.

It’s quite possible it’s FL BM Outer.

I want your opinion

[MathBlade]

Also which of the people on NPOM are scum to you Titus?

[Titus]

BM, maybe Alch.