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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:34 pm

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I think the main reason why I dislike FL is the string of posting that lacked exciting takes and was quite passive

and the reaction to me voting FL/trying to start a wagon didn't sound very genuine and i'd expect a town!FL to show a stronger response to being nakedvoted
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:34 pm

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It was 2 and 2, actually.

I've had a good year, only a few losses.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:35 pm

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why would I care about getting voted like that, i got the gift of gab, a vote on page 8 ain't nothing.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:37 pm

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I think you have a misguided idea of my personality.

What's up, I'm Flavor Leaf. Most of my posts actually mean to come off as low energy, but kind of in a specific way.

It tends to happen in face to face often, but I get faded a lot in face to face because I'm just always scummy.

Like it's just hard to believe that I'm town because of how scummy I always can be.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:37 pm

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hmmm
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:38 pm

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In post 199, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 193, unwnd wrote:Were those game scumgames? I understand your ego in that regard
I just won a town game with you, dude.
I know that and I just explained why I'm hesitant about your anti-townness

I feel like it's something you maintain because you want to have excuses for when you finally roll scum

Is that wrong?
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:39 pm

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idk what to make of FL redirecting pushes to a talk about his personality, maybe its true that reasoning with FL is going to be a struggle and NAI
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:39 pm

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I do actually like the town weaknesses I have, because everyone has em, use your weaknesses to your advantage.

I'm easily pocketed by players who defend me. Like I will jump in their pocket defend them weakness. I'm also hesitant to vote leading wagons that I'm not seeing, so I will also lead the secondary wagon as town, but usually I compromise, especially early game.

I play a good Devil's Advocate slot which is good with another town player pushing stuff, and then the incoming sword fight creates a narrative line that the entire game can physically feel, ya feel?
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:42 pm

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I want you to disassociate from yourself even if it's just to humor me and give your takes on Shelly's behavior towards you

If you're recalling Xeno, you had a strong take on Noraa that I initially didn't see cause I felt you were picking on someone lesser than you
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:43 pm

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In post 205, unwnd wrote:
In post 199, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 193, unwnd wrote:Were those game scumgames? I understand your ego in that regard
I just won a town game with you, dude.
I know that and I just explained why I'm hesitant about your anti-townness

I feel like it's something you maintain because you want to have excuses for when you finally roll scum

Is that wrong?
I'm always pro town. Even when I'm scum. Like, I want someone to catch me when I'm scum and putting up a good fight. If I were scum with a team not getting along, then eh, I'm a fan of teamwork, and I have an extremely different philosophy based on what town should and shouldn't do.

It leads to the fact that when I'm scum, it's just so easy to abuse it, however, I understand that yes, to an unorganized scum team, doing things a certain way will help find it, but I like discussion. I like working with scum reads while I call them scum. I generally don't get too heated unless someone's being aggressive in a hard tunnel way, which again, usually understand. I keep everything game related, or at least open up to the idea of how I'm thinking about Mafia.

that's why I say stuff like this, I'm helping people see that type of person I am, so they can use this to help get a better read on me.

Take it for what you will, maybe it won't help. I like talking.
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:44 pm

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ok we can read your autobiography later. This is prob NAI, I don't think FL's "defense" is convincing enough to make me unvote at this stage

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Also on a quick skim of 2174, nopoint!scum was talking in a very likeable/mellow tone. nopoint feels more blunt/unafraid to push here so far
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:45 pm

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In post 208, unwnd wrote:I want you to disassociate from yourself even if it's just to humor me and give your takes on Shelly's behavior towards you

If you're recalling Xeno, you had a strong take on Noraa that I initially didn't see cause I felt you were picking on someone lesser than you
Nothing popped up for me that pinged me either way. I wanted the fluffiness of Shelly noted, though, because things could happen later in the game that could maybe later look AI.

I've played with Shelly, but I don't remember where nor would I be able to say what type of player they are.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:45 pm

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why would you unvote, nothing's even really happened yet.

It's about to.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:45 pm

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In post 211, Flavor Leaf wrote:I've played with Shelly, but I don't remember where nor would I be able to say what type of player they are.
You didn't exactly play with me

You repped in the day after I got miskicked in Mini Normal boardgames
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:46 pm

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FL would you say you're a person that enjoys being at the centre of attention?
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:47 pm

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Scum either have to make the decision to try and push me, hoping they can have a use for it, if only to discredit me, or scum can avoid adding fuel to this fire, and stay off, and let town do what they may.

So I'm trying to see what happens.

My bet is scum won't have a plan for it, and if picks up, they'll help a bit, but if it doesn't, they'll move somewhere else.

I'm seeing what type of scum team this game has.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:48 pm

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In post 211, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 208, unwnd wrote:I want you to disassociate from yourself even if it's just to humor me and give your takes on Shelly's behavior towards you

If you're recalling Xeno, you had a strong take on Noraa that I initially didn't see cause I felt you were picking on someone lesser than you
Nothing popped up for me that pinged me either way. I wanted the fluffiness of Shelly noted, though, because things could happen later in the game that could maybe later look AI.

I've played with Shelly, but I don't remember where nor would I be able to say what type of player they are.
I think she leads with what she sees immediately and then just hits submit even if she might redact it later

That type of play-style is a bit difficult to process, she's already done that a few times
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:49 pm

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But seriously FL don't fucking self-vote

I don't care what's going up in your brain, but I think that's just gonna make scum not want to vote you? They're gonna look at that like 'well wtf is FL doing' and proceed to ignore you if your intent is to get others to come at you
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:49 pm

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In post 214, shellyc wrote:FL would you say you're a person that enjoys being at the centre of attention?
I am the center of attention, can't do anything about that, sometimes good, sometimes bad, that's something I get from my mom's side of the family, and I have grown to like myself, so let's say yes.

I consider myself an artist in real life, (Writer/Actor/Director), so I would say that goes with the territory of liking the center of attention.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:50 pm

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In post 217, unwnd wrote:But seriously FL don't fucking self-vote

I don't care what's going up in your brain, but I think that's just gonna make scum not want to vote you? They're gonna look at that like 'well wtf is FL doing' and proceed to ignore you if your intent is to get others to come at you
Ohhhhh....

this is what you're on.

You're thinking anti-town because of the self vote.

Yeah, this self vote means absolutely nothing. It's essentially the same thing as Not Voting, it's a nice juicy worm, ready to be hit by the ScumJays.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:52 pm

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Nobody is going for the worm man I'm pretty sure?
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:54 pm

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There's nothing wrong with a self vote; there is wrong with giving up, and going to lose.

But I am ultra competitive, and in the moment of the game, winning is all that matter (I'm good with losing, I just want a good fought game, it's the attitude behind "everyone try to win, then have fun with that mindset"

i will always try to win no matter what.

If I replace out of a game, it's because I'm about to get toxic, which is something I generally avoid. I'm condescending in a game related manner, yes, but I'm trying to get challenged, ya feel. I like that feel of competition.

When I Self Vote, it is Pro Town, because it's not "just" a self vote.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:55 pm

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In post 221, Flavor Leaf wrote:When I Self Vote, it is Pro Town, because it's not "just" a self vote.
I will never ever think this in my entire life

Self-voting will always be anti-town and right now all I have to say is good luck
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:55 pm

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In post 220, unwnd wrote:Nobody is going for the worm man I'm pretty sure?
Assuming that is the actual worm. The worm is an explosion, a moment in time, and that moment can switch. It creates a ripple effect of worms, where as the initial ripple had started going, it's now changed a bit, but it's still going. If that makes sense.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2020 2:56 pm

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In post 222, unwnd wrote:
In post 221, Flavor Leaf wrote:When I Self Vote, it is Pro Town, because it's not "just" a self vote.
I will never ever think this in my entire life

Self-voting will always be anti-town and right now all I have to say is good luck
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