Newbie 2043: Cherfnul - Game Over

[Rockhopper]

Clidd is probably town

[ben dover123]

Clidd is probably town

And why is this?

[Rockhopper]

gut

[ben dover123]

gut

Uh...

We are a little too far in for using gut reads, but ok.

What is your readlist look like?

[Rockhopper]

Town - {BM, bend, clidd, Trendall, NAJON}
Scum- {Lavar}

[ben dover123]

Ok, that is one polarizing readlist.

Here are a couple of questions:

BM is your highest tr? Wha...

Lavar is scum? How so?

[Rockhopper]

In no particular order.

[ben dover123]

In no particular order.

Wait, so you have no highest townread?

Also, I'd like the answer for the second question.

[Rockhopper]

Lavar is scum? How so?

Mainly his predecessor. I don't think Lavar's posts come from town more often than not.

[Rockhopper]

In no particular order.

Wait, so you have no highest townread?

No

[ben dover123]

So, you believe that Pragdoid was scum and had scummy behavoir? Here, let me compose an ISO of his posts.

[ben dover123]

1. Is this your first game or do you have past games? Can you link me your best scum and town games if you do have past games? In other words, what games do you want me to metadive you?

2. Favorite role? Favorite alignment?

3. How good are you at scumhunting (self-evaluation), from 1-10?

1. I finished several games on another forum years ago, but I couldn't link to them because IDK if it is still active, and it was a member's only music forum.

2. My favorite role would probably be town vigilante, as it lets you be town and try to find the scum but also take unilateral action and kill someone you think is scum. I had a game with that role but I could only shoot one time. I hit a townie

3. Pretty mediocre probably, I'd say a 5 maybe...

NAI

Yeah, it's my first game here.

Here is a question I'd like to ask everyone:
If someone was one vote away from being lynched, and there were people who wanted to continue discussion but you were convinced they were scum, would you hammer them?

This is likely NAI, but tone sounds like a newbie town that is asking questions.

I'm sorry about my inactivity, I wasn't expecting the game to move as quickly as it has. And from my pov the game started wednesday night, so I didn't think missing 1 full day would be as detrimental as it has been.

I am going to do a full re-read tomorrow morning, but my preliminary reads are that Ben and Chumbo are the most likely town, based on Ben's proactiveness and well thought out reasoning, as well as his change of stance on Chumbo. My view on Chumbo is similar to his, I think he was genuine in his read of Ben. Trendall I could go either way on. clidd gives a a bit of a scumread, but this is entirely based on gut alone. Everyone else hasn't posted enough to get any kind of read on.

I will do my best to get back to anyone's questions tonight if they ask any, but with the weekend here I should be more active.

Consensus reads, but still NAI

Honestly your earlier interactions with Trendall only strengthens my slight scumread on you. In this series of interactions you claim that there is a tell for "hello" without a vote, he responds with what looked like an omgus vote to me, and then you contradict yourself with your response, claiming that you don't think there is a tell for "hello". So which is it? I need to re-read the thread completely when I have a clearer head, but this seems disingenuous to me. Also, your take on Trendall saying "first mafia" seemed like you were grasping at straws.

Tone says newbie town trying to piece things together after rereading. Pragdoid was the first person to notice the contradiction.

Hey everyone, I'm sorry but I have requested to be replaced. I thought I'd have more time but I don't, so I'd rather let someone who can do the game justice take my place. Sorry everyone.

Makes a apology, likely NAI but sounds relatively town.

So, what do you see here that is scummy behavior? All I see is by tone Pragdoid sounds like a newbie town.

[ben dover123]

Hm. It seems you scumread Pragdoid for consensus reads and attacking clidd by his contradiction. I still think this comes from newbie town learning the game rather than scummy behavior.

[Trendall]

How come?

[ben dover123]

How come?

I have experience with this kind of stuff. Newbies use consensus reads because they like to only stick with the flow, and the contradiction attack seems like a genuine attempt to sort out his reads and attack his scumread.

[Trendall]

How come?

Oh this was meant to be a response to 'clidd is probably town' lol

[Trendall]

Cause it loaded at the bottom of page 12 and I didn't realise there was an extra page.

[ben dover123]

Cause it loaded at the bottom of page 12 and I didn't realise there was an extra page.

:thonk:

Yeah, people are townreading clidd out of

gut

. I'm outraged by this.

[ben dover123]

Clidd is probably town

And why is this?

gut

[Trendall]

Nothing wrong with that whatsoever.

[clidd]

Hum.

[clidd]

Rock is very likely scum imo. I don't see him getting better, nor by giving a convincing description to his reads.

[ben dover123]

Nothing wrong with that whatsoever.

At this point clidd has made enough content to be better than a "gut" read though. Actually, all of Rock's reads are really bad ngl.

[Rockhopper]

Nothing wrong with that whatsoever.

At this point clidd has made enough content to be better than a "gut" read though. Actually, all of Rock's reads are really bad ngl.

And therefore scummy?

[ben dover123]

Nothing wrong with that whatsoever.

At this point clidd has made enough content to be better than a "gut" read though. Actually, all of Rock's reads are really bad ngl.

And therefore scummy?

No, I'm not sure what to make of you yet. Rereading.