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wtf how did that double-post"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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Unless I'm on a mary-go-round getting mindfucked byAlisae/OWERsimultaneously, I like this solve.
Without ISOs elsewhere, here's where I'm at.
Strong Townreads: {Alisae, OWER}
Weaker Townreads:{Pooky, BM, Flea, Bell, Akarin, Gamma, Blitzo}
Sorting/Volatile Reads: {SirCakez, Titus, Murdercat}
Contains Scum Via PoE + Interactions: {Haschel, Reckoner, TGP}
Confident Scum Independently: {DrippingGoofBall}
I plan to resolve{SirCakez/Titus/Murdercat}reads.
{Haschel/Reckoner/TGP}I STRONGLY doubt contain all scum, but they make the most logical sense in respect to my townreads.
This isn't a very realistic readslist D1 but it's 16p I'm reading in 1 week, so..."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage- Taly
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oh. beautiful.
my top townies scumread each other.
like in half of my games.
"Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
"The human race is bad at reading Taly." ~the worst
"Taly I knew your slot was scum and I still struggled to find arguments to SR your play lol" ~Infinity 324
"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage- SirCakez
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I'm not sure why you are so hung up on that one post I quoted - as I said it was representative of your whole ISO. It was not meant to be the "one post" I was trying to nail you on.In post 1665, Taly wrote:The last time I was present in the thread I was frustrated, and to call 1316 1331 as hostile is valid.
But my argument to your 1272 was true.
I felt that you cherry-picked one of my earliest posts (and not my whole ISO) as a means to say that I don't have a lot of content, and 1319 still did not give much information on why you thought that.
You inquired about it, and I gave an emotional answer with frustration directed at more than just your slot. Your reply in 1348 doesn't help me realize what you don't follow.
My major issue with your approach to me residesaftermy 1351. I distrust the way you frame the interaction with me.
1832 read as dismissive because you made a post about my content, I engaged, and it looked like you wrote it off by saying I shouldn't have commented.
I gave you a way to engage with me in 1351 and I don't think your assessment that I'm trying to appeal to you is accurate or fair. 1388
If I wanted to appeal to you, why am I interacting with you in hostility, in your eyes?The assessment doesn't make logical sense to me.
1661 reads as poor faith because you're more focused on detailing why a scumread on me is valid rather than dispelling what uncertainty you have with my posts.
I can understand that we could be miscommunicating, but I don't follow your assessment of my posts and if you're town, I'd rather you work with me here.
I feel your posts are just padded out a lot with a lot of waffling and unconclusive content and I feel it could be scum motivated as people tend to go "walls = town."
In 1382 I was being dismissive, because I felt like you were looking for something that wasn't there. Thus I was calling the response scummy.
Appease =/= appeal. I'm using appease in this context as trying to diffuse pressure on you by giving me what I want, basically, by trying to "explain" yourself as town motivated.
And in 1661 I'm shooting down your claim that I haven't said why I want no-elim. Which, you still haven't explained why you said that when it's blatantly not true.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I TR them both Taly
But I disagree BM is townWe're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
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I will try to do this - I feel you will be a valuable player here if you're town.In post 1666, Taly wrote:Cakez, I'm not looking for a detailed rebuttal outlining your POV.
I want you to engage with what content I've created, and if you feel that I still haven't provided anything, don't confbias a reason to sus me, explain it.Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I also have to say I tend to read long ISOs as scum motivated because people rarely read them through and they look townie on surface levelBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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especially so early in the game when we don't even have flips to use to look at early-game associativesBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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I think this is a solid readslist though although I question some of these weaker TRs (mainly Blitzo and Bell)In post 1676, Taly wrote:Unless I'm on a mary-go-round getting mindfucked byAlisae/OWERsimultaneously, I like this solve.
Without ISOs elsewhere, here's where I'm at.
Strong Townreads: {Alisae, OWER}
Weaker Townreads:{Pooky, BM, Flea, Bell, Akarin, Gamma, Blitzo}
Sorting/Volatile Reads: {SirCakez, Titus, Murdercat}
Contains Scum Via PoE + Interactions: {Haschel, Reckoner, TGP}
Confident Scum Independently: {DrippingGoofBall}
I plan to resolve{SirCakez/Titus/Murdercat}reads.
{Haschel/Reckoner/TGP}I STRONGLY doubt contain all scum, but they make the most logical sense in respect to my townreads.
This isn't a very realistic readslist D1 but it's 16p I'm reading in 1 week, so...Brian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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This is such a nonsense take stuck in 2017/18 that wasn’t even sensible then imoIn post 1681, SirCakez wrote:I also have to say I tend to read long ISOs as scum motivated because people rarely read them through and they look townie on surface levelWe're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
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I never explained myself to be town-motivated in my mind. I was telling you about a more productive way to solve me.In post 1678, SirCakez wrote:
I'm not sure why you are so hung up on that one post I quoted - as I said it was representative of your whole ISO. It was not meant to be the "one post" I was trying to nail you on.In post 1665, Taly wrote:The last time I was present in the thread I was frustrated, and to call 1316 1331 as hostile is valid.
But my argument to your 1272 was true.
I felt that you cherry-picked one of my earliest posts (and not my whole ISO) as a means to say that I don't have a lot of content, and 1319 still did not give much information on why you thought that.
You inquired about it, and I gave an emotional answer with frustration directed at more than just your slot. Your reply in 1348 doesn't help me realize what you don't follow.
My major issue with your approach to me residesaftermy 1351. I distrust the way you frame the interaction with me.
1832 read as dismissive because you made a post about my content, I engaged, and it looked like you wrote it off by saying I shouldn't have commented.
I gave you a way to engage with me in 1351 and I don't think your assessment that I'm trying to appeal to you is accurate or fair. 1388
If I wanted to appeal to you, why am I interacting with you in hostility, in your eyes?The assessment doesn't make logical sense to me.
1661 reads as poor faith because you're more focused on detailing why a scumread on me is valid rather than dispelling what uncertainty you have with my posts.
I can understand that we could be miscommunicating, but I don't follow your assessment of my posts and if you're town, I'd rather you work with me here.
I feel your posts are just padded out a lot with a lot of waffling and unconclusive content and I feel it could be scum motivated as people tend to go "walls = town."
In 1382 I was being dismissive, because I felt like you were looking for something that wasn't there. Thus I was calling the response scummy.
Appease =/= appeal. I'm using appease in this context as trying to diffuse pressure on you by giving me what I want, basically, by trying to "explain" yourself as town motivated.
And in 1661 I'm shooting down your claim that I haven't said why I want no-elim. Which, you still haven't explained why you said that when it's blatantly not true.
And I stand by my stance. It was not my intention to misrep you like you understood in 1661. I didn't explictly say you never discussed no limming at all.
I was talking about how you didn't mention it in 1555 I wanted to know how your progression changed between THAT POST and your vote onMurder.
I get frustrated when people tell me I don't contribute when I gave reads about the game. I'm trying to mitigate this.
I don't like feeling dismissed, and it wasn't justyour postthat I got tense over, I was also vexed byDGB'sdisposition towards me and the disconnect I had withAkarin.
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Aside from game stuff, I will admit I was angry IRL the other night and I AtE'd in the thread when I should've just logged off.
I apologize for how I presented myself. My difficulty with IRL frustration exacerbating my negativity in the game was why I VLA'd. I behaved less than responsibly. It is nothing personal to any of you in this game <3
I appreciate that.In post 1680, SirCakez wrote:
I will try to do this - I feel you will be a valuable player here if you're town.In post 1666, Taly wrote:Cakez, I'm not looking for a detailed rebuttal outlining your POV.
I want you to engage with what content I've created, and if you feel that I still haven't provided anything, don't confbias a reason to sus me, explain it.
In post 1681, SirCakez wrote:I also have to say I tend to read long ISOs as scum motivated because people rarely read them through and they look townie on surface level
I mean, sure.SirCakez wrote:especially so early in the game when we don't even have flips to use to look at early-game associatives
But I wall and ISO regardless of my alignment,even in D1.
Alisaecan vouch I do this as scum AND town, andTitusknows I like ISOing a lot as town.
And this isn't to take away your suspicion of me, I'm just giving you a heads up that this isn't AI by itself."Taly is going to be a hot mess all game and I am entertained" ~ Gammagooey
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I mean the tell has worked for me before so I don't see why it's so badIn post 1684, Gamma Emerald wrote:
This is such a nonsense take stuck in 2017/18 that wasn’t even sensible then imoIn post 1681, SirCakez wrote:I also have to say I tend to read long ISOs as scum motivated because people rarely read them through and they look townie on surface levelBrian Skies - "I just wanna say Cakez is an evil mod and this is an evil setup."
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Before I go off, I'd like to hear whyBMisn't town fromGamma, and whyBlitzo/Bellare townread that you're unsure aboutCakez.
I've done a lot today, haha, bye.
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"Taly wins for the most fence-sitty reads in a game ever" ~Battle Mage- Flea The Magician
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that you can't work out what I'm thinking from my thought stream ISO walls means my brain is as chaotic and cruddy as ever.
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Can you cite specific examples where it has worked?In post 1686, SirCakez wrote:
I mean the tell has worked for me before so I don't see why it's so badIn post 1684, Gamma Emerald wrote:
This is such a nonsense take stuck in 2017/18 that wasn’t even sensible then imoIn post 1681, SirCakez wrote:I also have to say I tend to read long ISOs as scum motivated because people rarely read them through and they look townie on surface level
I’ll be able to speak freely soon, but in the interest in being complete I’d like to have a 24 grace period in which I may speak on it but am not obligated to.In post 1687, Taly wrote:Before I go off, I'd like to hear whyBMisn't town fromGamma, and whyBlitzo/Bellare townread that you're unsure aboutCakez.
I've done a lot today, haha, bye.
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putting a pin on my catch-up from a little bit ago, so I can go analyze RQS responsesIn post 900, Thestatusquo wrote:We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
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I think these people are town:
xRECKONERx - same as before, more bold than I would expect for scum
PookyTheMagicalBear - mech talk and tone
alisae - not controlling the discourse the way I would expect as scum
OutWorldER - TTTBS
maybe town:
Akarin - lots of protown actions that make me feel better here (table, post restriction obscuring). The push on me also doesn't really feel scummy.
Bell - 1460 alone makes me feel really good about Bell. He does feel different from D1 death curse, but not so much that it pings me.
gamma emerald - Idk this is just ~vibes~ I don't have a good justification other than gamma's posting just feels good to me like he has genuine thoughts about game solving that are his own.
titus - mostly association with Flea and BM tbh. I also think no elim push is pro town.
unsure about:
Blitzo - I still feel like Blitzo is saying stuff without really doing anything and the avatar is cursed I liked the old one
Haschel Cedricson - Also hasn't really done anything I think
DrippingGoofBall - I don't know DG meta well enough to read this iso.
thegoldenparadox - I feel like they might be TMIing I'm town lol, I don't think the justification that I'm energetic was worth much because I've been pretty low this game overall.
maybe scum:
taly - I've been getting the heebie jeebies based on how Taly is interacting with me. Like I feel like I've been interacting with Taly a lot in the game but I've stayed in the light shade territory the whole game.
SirCakez - I think cake could easily be scum with BM and things would make a lot of sense. I thought he was defensive early in response to me voting him. I also think he is shading a lot of people without a lot of TRs
I think they are scum:
battle mage - vote on me felt very opportunistic with a hand wavey reason that felt like he didn't want to say he was voting for the lols. And then I felt he tried to walk it back.
Flea - Flea's wall on me is like, pretty fake? A lot of quoting dumb jokes and trying to read into them and not quoting things that I think are actually relevant. It also feels like fae went through my iso looking for things to shade me on and I think fae did the same thing to Titus. It reads like setup for a future vote if my wagon becomes real. Like how does my entire iso have nothing that is indicative of town me?- MURDERCAT
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Ok that's all you are getting out of me today, I am quite busy with work and it's been hard to keep up with all the games the past few days.
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Blitzo could you please learn to use a line break in your posts? It's kinda hard to parse stuff when it's all blocks of text, even with the occasion paragraph breakWe're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
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I can help you with your middling reads. SirCakez-town, Titus-scum. Murdercat - no idea!In post 1676, Taly wrote:Unless I'm on a mary-go-round getting mindfucked byAlisae/OWERsimultaneously, I like this solve.
Without ISOs elsewhere, here's where I'm at.
Strong Townreads: {Alisae, OWER}
Weaker Townreads:{Pooky, BM, Flea, Bell, Akarin, Gamma, Blitzo}
Sorting/Volatile Reads: {SirCakez, Titus, Murdercat}
Contains Scum Via PoE + Interactions: {Haschel, Reckoner, TGP}
Confident Scum Independently: {DrippingGoofBall}
I plan to resolve{SirCakez/Titus/Murdercat}reads.
{Haschel/Reckoner/TGP}I STRONGLY doubt contain all scum, but they make the most logical sense in respect to my townreads.
This isn't a very realistic readslist D1 but it's 16p I'm reading in 1 week, so...Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%- Battle Mage
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on Murdercat, if I'm reading it correctly, he basically townreads his entire wagon except me. I think that's surprising, given he's at like L-3? I'd have thought from his POV, he'd be more wary of scum driving it. Not sure if I feel it's a genuine read, or an attempt to buddy the majority on the wagon and turn them against somebody else. I think his push on me is pretty weak and he is persisting even when it obviously isn't going anywhere.
There are a few other elims I'd prefer.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%- Battle Mage
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I'd be fine with Flea too I guess. A different case to Murdercat but overall similar likelihood of flipping scum.In post 1651, Alisae wrote:I could be talked into killing flea today as well tbhShow2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%- Battle Mage
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me and OWER. (not you or MC)In post 1653, Flea The Magician wrote:
Who is "both", exactly?In post 1646, Battle Mage wrote:
dude, we're both town here, let's keep it chillIn post 1607, OutWorldER wrote:Flea why are you not voting MC.
BM is transparently busing MCat but he can go out the airlock next.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%- Battle Mage
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I believe it was Confucius who said "Sometimes complaining is the only useful thing one can do".In post 1660, SirCakez wrote:
Mmm why don't you do something about it instead of complainingIn post 1637, TheGoldenParadox wrote:please explain to me
why in the world we are voting murdercat
who is transparently bleeding town
and not blitzo
who is transparently bleeding scum
it's a fair read dude!In post 1671, Taly wrote:Spoiler: Alisae+BM ISO
Synopsis
I really don't see howAlisae/BMare S/S here, or everything they're doing is to distance them in the context of how they read the game.
I will note, they don't often state reads on the other, so I will be attentive to this in the future.
Alisaeis town because their POV lacks what I'd imagine scum-them,at the very least, this stage of the game.
BMis less confidently town, I wonder if their more flippant disposition is to nullify suspicion and placate others.Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
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Talyhas used"on24-Hour Grace Period"Gamma Emerald! It is super effective!
I was a bit afraid that I was being pocketed by you but this read kind of destroys that idea.In post 1691, MURDERCAT wrote:maybe scum:
taly - I've been getting the heebie jeebies based on how Taly is interacting with me. Like I feel like I've been interacting with Taly a lot in the game but I've stayed in the light shade territory the whole game.
(Full transparency, I figured if I were pocketed by scum as I mentioned in 1621,{You/Pooky/OWER/BM/Haschel}contained the scum I thought would be doing that.)
Also, if ANYTHING I've posted about you has been shade inanyform, you have my sympathies because I think you'll spontaneously combust if I actually intended to shade you.
Our solves don't align that muchMC. What do we do?
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I can help you with your middling reads. SirCakez-town, Titus-scum. Murdercat - no idea!In post 1676, Taly wrote:Unless I'm on a mary-go-round getting mindfucked byAlisae/OWERsimultaneously, I like this solve.
Without ISOs elsewhere, here's where I'm at.
Strong Townreads: {Alisae, OWER}
Weaker Townreads:{Pooky, BM, Flea, Bell, Akarin, Gamma, Blitzo}
Sorting/Volatile Reads: {SirCakez, Titus, Murdercat}
Contains Scum Via PoE + Interactions: {Haschel, Reckoner, TGP}
Confident Scum Independently: {DrippingGoofBall}
I plan to resolve{SirCakez/Titus/Murdercat}reads.
{Haschel/Reckoner/TGP}I STRONGLY doubt contain all scum, but they make the most logical sense in respect to my townreads.
This isn't a very realistic readslist D1 but it's 16p I'm reading in 1 week, so...Titus, or explain that read.
I wantTitusto real-time chat with me when she caaaaaaannnnnnnnn.
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