Newbie 2043: Cherfnul - Game Over

[ben dover123]

You shouldn't be using gut to determine your reason to vote now though, we are 14 pages in with a decent amount of info.

My vote is sticking where it is right now. Your actions just recently hard ping scum to me.

[Rockhopper]

You shouldn't be using gut to determine your reason to vote now though, we are 14 pages in with a decent amount of info.

Exactly.

[ben dover123]

Right now, the only thing that is unsettling me about Rock is that clidd, my original scumread, was subtly pushing reasons why Rock was scummy, which I may have to analyze to see if this may be clidd trying to misdirect me towards a Rock miselim. Although these recent posts are just so bad coming from a town motivation.

[LoneMarkhor]

Rockhopper you are really acting suspicious.First Lavar.Now why do you think ben is scum?

[ben dover123]

@above you should appear to be what?
"gut" is as lazy as what can get?

Scummy.
Reason to vote.

I'm fairly certain I read Newbie 2037 and Mini Normal 2177 and neither of those games you had scummy behavior, but I'm going to reread again to make sure. Meta case on Rock coming tomorrow.

Ok, ok, ok, ok, take some deep breath. Count to 10.

I'm taking a step back. What does everyone else think about Rock's recent posts? I want some opinions so I know I am either confbiased or I am looking at Rock's posts in the right way.

I'm gonna go to sleep, I'm exhausted after spilling some of my emotions. Goodnight all, and I hope to see some answers the the latter question.

[Trendall]

cliddd n' LoneMarkhor top mafia suspects.

[LoneMarkhor]

Why am I a suspect?

[Chumbo]

While I'm looking at the new posts,
@ben: he only has newbie 2037 to look at, but rock does have 1 town game under his belt.
originally I thought his meta seemed about the same, but I'm not so sure looking at his new posts. What do you think about this?

[Chumbo]

@above: Never mind, just got caught up and I see you made a reference to it already. Just skimmed the thread before.

[LoneMarkhor]

@chumbo: what do you think about what rockhopper is saying?

[Chumbo]

Also I missed the other game he was in.

Interesting. You are now a scum lean.

This definitely comes off as a weird reason to develop a scumlean on Ben.

Sure, bad reads != scummy in a vacuum, but my readlist in the previous page should appear to be obv!scum to any towny reading it. I state my opinion on how I think it's scummy to go along with the consensus, and immediately proceed to make a polarizing readlist with the most unsubstantiated garbage reads. That should look like maf trying not to contradict themselves while failing to give good reasoning in this context, and the fact that you didn't notice this points to you being scum more often than not due to TMI.

Why would you go out of your way to try to make something against consensus? And why would we care if you changed your mind about Pragdoid reads if you later realized that they were good reads? I get that you're trying not to contradict yourself, but yeah it really does make you look like mafia.

Also why the actual f*** would you purposely make bad reads. That makes absolutely no sense from a towny perspective.

Why not? And how does that matter as a response to my read?

I can't think of a intention why town would purposely do something like this.

Your AtE is definitely a contributing factor. You seem way to concerned with your image.

Haha! Brutal.

I find it fascinating that clidd and Rockhopper both are just going along with "yeah I look like scum, what about it"

I'm going to VOTE: Rockhopper I think thats E-2

PEdit: @LoneMarkhor: I don't think it looks good.

[Rockhopper]

Sure, bad reads != scummy in a vacuum, but my readlist in the previous page should appear to be obv!scum to any towny reading it. I state my opinion on how I think it's scummy to go along with the consensus, and immediately proceed to make a polarizing readlist with the most unsubstantiated garbage reads. That should look like maf trying not to contradict themselves while failing to give good reasoning in this context, and the fact that you didn't notice this points to you being scum more often than not due to TMI.

Why would you go out of your way to try to make something against consensus? And why would we care if you changed your mind about Pragdoid reads if you later realized that they were good reads? I get that you're trying not to contradict yourself, but yeah it really does make you look like mafia.

I didn't change my mind about Pragdoid. That wasn't me going out of my way against consensus.

[Rockhopper]

I can't think of a intention why town would purposely do something like this.

Meh. I'd expect a better analysis from town if they wanted a reads list.

[Rockhopper]

Trendall is my top town read atm

[LoneMarkhor]

It feels like he is trying to save his scum partner(Clidd).Or(idk) he may have gone out of his way to pressure others but really that was too much so I think its not possible.Was Clidd not defending him because he was waiting for his other partner to take the heat off him.If so then it didn't go well for them.Well if so It would be his first time playing scum.It is most likely he is mafia. I cant think why he would do this as town.He was more likely trying to save half the mafia being caught day 1.Of course all this relies on the hypothesis that Clidd is also mafia.But I think Clidd voted for him too.What could that mean?So there is a chance this might not be true.Unless further analysis
(A bif FOS on rockhopper)
I'd probably voting him.

[LoneMarkhor]

Typo:big FOS

[Chumbo]

I didn't change my mind about Pragdoid. That wasn't me going out of my way against consensus.

ok, that was just my thinking. You still didn't want to contradict yourself though?

Trendall is my top town read atm

I really don't see why, but ok.

It feels like he is trying to save his scum partner(Clidd).Or(idk) he may have gone out of his way to pressure others but really that was too much so I think its not possible.Was Clidd not defending him because he was waiting for his other partner to take the heat off him.If so then it didn't go well for them.Well if so It would be his first time playing scum.It is most likely he is mafia. I cant think why he would do this as town.He was more likely trying to save half the mafia being caught day 1.Of course all this relies on the hypothesis that Clidd is also mafia.But I think Clidd voted for him too.What could that mean?So there is a chance this might not be true.Unless further analysis
(A bif FOS on rockhopper)
I'd probably voting him.

I don't know. I think it's one or the other. clidd kind of seems like he's trying to save his own ass from being lynched. I may end up changing to clidd if he doesn't provide something better after BM posts.

[LoneMarkhor]

I am really curious what BM is gonna post.I dont think its going to be what I think it will be.

[Chumbo]

I am really curious what BM is gonna post.I dont think its going to be what I think it will be.

What do you think it will be?

[LoneMarkhor]

They are town masons?

[Chumbo]

Wow, that's not what I expected you to say at all. I guess we'll see.

[Rockhopper]

Lel. Heavy town pings from LoneMarkhor for saying that.

[Trendall]

They are town masons?

How did you arrive at this?

[Chumbo]

Yeah, I'd say so.

[Rockhopper]

They are town masons?

How did you arrive at this?

Probably better if we don't discuss