PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Creature]

Not sure if I want to keep going rn as it's 1:20 am

I think I'll stop at page 10

[Spiffeh]

I don't see what Spiffeh sees regarding Ircher, and have felt nothing townish emanating from Ircher's big quote walls.

I already explained a big reason I'm town reading him but if I'm being honest a huge chunk of it has to do with meta from DEFCON 4.0 like four years ago where he was town and elim-baity and posting in the same way he's posting here

It's probably a little lazy to just write him off as town from it but in a game where I don't have many confident reads it's something

[Bell]

Bell please talk to me

If I say anything about it it's ev-.

ok but I'm having trouble sorting you so like
throw me a bone
give me something
please

I wanted to push creature or Cakez to claim before Pooky came up from on high to narrow the pool to 4 people. Shouldn't say this, saying it anyway.

[Double the Trouble]

Bell please talk to me

If I say anything about it it's ev-.

ok but I'm having trouble sorting you so like
throw me a bone
give me something
please

I wanted to push creature or Cakez to claim before Pooky came up from on high to narrow the pool to 4 people. Shouldn't say this, saying it anyway.

Cakez isn't in this game

[Spiffeh]

lol

[Bell]

You know what I meant.

[Double the Trouble]

I don't though

[Double the Trouble]

who is cakez supposed to be

[Netflix and Chill]

I already explained a big reason I'm town reading him but if I'm being honest a huge chunk of it has to do with meta from DEFCON 4.0 like four years ago where he was town and elim-baity and posting in the same way he's posting here

It's probably a little lazy to just write him off as town from it but in a game where I don't have many confident reads it's something

Sadly, I'm not going to put much stock in a read you're basing off 4-year old meta. And I feel like you shouldn't either.

I think he's already established an easy posting style to hide behind, always being in catch up mode, but the fact that he deviated to explain his scum read on Ydrasse makes it seem that solving the game is more of a priority than going unnoticed

I also don't really agree with your take here. How does him deviating to explain his scum read on Ydrasse make it seem like 'he's focused on solving the game' when it's possible he was just interjecting to break them up or cast them both in a bad light?

And I feel like him establishing 'an easy posting style to hide behind' should give you more concern than it has been. And I certainly don't think the latter part outweighs the former.

[Bell]

Who was I voting last.

[Bell]

Oh, he doesn't actually have cake in his name.
I was talking about dr. Easy bake.

[Double the Trouble]

oh ok

[Double the Trouble]

Spiffy I don't remember asking you about Bell?
Did I ask you about Bell because I'm wondering what do you think of that player.

[Double the Trouble]

Bell's early posting was fine but its starting to get worse and he's starting to become a bit more frozen me thinks

[Bell]

Share with me where the quality of my posting and hunting fell.

[Ircher]

Also I saw Toog slipped somewhere?

Nah, that didn't happen. That was just a misunderstanding of Toog's post.

Currently am thinking Polar Bear Express should be the most protown lynch there is. Though, they're pretty much rand and I really wanted to lynch scum before Flavor Leaf fearkills me.

No offense to Noraa and Gloria, but I kinda concur with this sentiment. (I'll be quick to add that neither Creature in his post nor me here is saying that we're scumreading the slot. Just that eliminating them would probably help out a lot in making the game readable.)

I'm more of a Blastoise guy myself anyway.

Alright, this was like your fifth post totally devoid of actual content. While I do understand this is your style, we do need you to put some actual effort into the game. Otherwise, we may have to policy eliminate you, and that's really a waste for both us and you.

I agree with Pichu

Ircher does sound very bad

I wanna vote Ircher, Creature, Nk15.

This is an awful take. Creature/NK15 seem like easy targets to pick on. Also, NK15 hasn't done much at all... How are you reading him as scum already?

Fair, so let me put it another way;
Noraa's content has felt like scumposting to me through and through the entire time.

mastina, I have to ask: have you calibrated your reads to take into account personality? It really feels to me you are scumreading Noraa here based on style and not content.

Hard disagree mastina I get the feeling Noraas actually enjoying posting this game which IMO means she’s happy she’s town and doesn’t have to worry about rapid elim again.

This is a good observation and one that I somewhat agree with.

This reads like total bullshit. Your entire read is based on them seeming like they are "enjoying the game"? They can't enjoy the game as scum?

You should probably peek at Death Curse, especially towards the end. I think it is clear from that game that Noraa enjoys town much more than scum.

For instance, these posts look terrible since they're explicitly OMGUS+reverse-OMGUS (townreading a player townreading your slot + scumreading players scumreading your slot), and it no longer flows as well.

I do agree that Noraa has been OMGUSing a lot, but that's not necessarily indicative of scum. As I pointed out earlier, it's mostly a sign of inexperience. Also, when you think someone is being scummy with every post (and especially if you are the only one), it might be a sign that you are incorrect in your gauge and need to recalibrate.

Oh my

Can't feel any more energy to play mafia

For the record if Creature were town here I'd expect him to tell DEB to vote someone here--that this is his posting instead does make me think he's scum.

Eh, I don't agree mainly cuz Creature is coming off as not at all invested in the game's outcome. Like sure, maybe that's a scum indicator; I'm pretty sure Creature is less enthusiastic about scum than town. But even so, it's not a strong indicator because there are a bunch of other lurking variables to consider that may be factoring his interest.

I realize a lot of people are draft speculating but the way Solstice is approaching noraa about her own meta feels like "noraa look how town I am using your meta to read you!" rather than "this is how I feel about noraa", particularly in this post:

But you attracted early votes which i attributed to your sort of elim baity nature

those were RVS votes.

[You and shelly were like the main wagons for the front half of D1, with Redados taking a resurge after a while]

[Noraa my point is that i think you're elim baity and i also think hydras are elim baity and also there's a ton of WIFOM paranoia people are going to have of you as well with regards to FL picking you. i think there are a lot of reasons for FL to not pick you and instead just have you eliminated later]

~Morning

And I'm scum reading them outside of that so I guess I focused on their draft spec more than others oh well

(Going to add this to my ISO to refer back to later. Not sure if I agree with it though.)

Your reasons seem pretty weak and superficial, on a playerslot that's probably one of the easiest to finger as scum, since both halves of the hydra are players that tend to be lower-hanging fruit. (Mistygirl in particular.)

While I feel that there are reasonable reasons to finger that slot as suspicious, the ones you're going after seem entirely forced and fake, as if you're struggling to come up with a genuinely good scumread on any slot so picked an easier slot to go after.

(Adding this post to my ISO as well...)

Up to page 35. That's probably it for tonight.

[Bell]

You appear to agree with me on Bake, I already explained N15 vote in a different post and they haven't posted anything significant since then.
Creature was pressure. He has posted a take but still seems stuck on complaining on Noraa which is tired, at least he agreed they're prolly town.

Also, your position on Noraa and Gloria is genuinely gross.

[Flavor Leaf]

Bookmarking iso

[Netflix and Chill]

Thank you.

I was afraid I'd lose my place.

[Double the Trouble]

Ydrasse. Can you immediately explain your meta with Hectic, your history of pockething Hectic, and which post/tonal read from Hectic gave you the impression he is town in this game.

- Norwee

[Double the Trouble]

Double Trouble
Ircher
Battle Mage
Dunnstral

I think i'd be most interested in doing one of Dunnstral/BM from this list so far.
My read on Ircher is pretty weak, and i've got no meta of them. It would be nice if someone could tell me why Ircher is scummy cus i never really understood that wagon.

- Norwee

[Not Known 15]

VOTE: Double the Trouble
I have played with Norwegianboy in the past.
This isn't town. This is scum drowning the thread with distracting and spammy posts.

[Double the Trouble]

Out of all the reasons to scumread me i didn’t expect that.

- Norwee

[Double the Trouble]

Show me these spammy posts?

- Norwee

[Dunnstral]

Show me these spammy posts?

- Norwee

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