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Post Post #2400 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:17 am

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In post 2399, Hopkirk wrote:Scum!gypyx keeping doing it would be because it kept working. He got no pressure until like yesterday.
you think scum!gypyx would think, 'implying i am about to do something and then not doing it will continue to ward off votes indefinitely'?
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Post Post #2401 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:18 am

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it reminds me of another player who spent 21 days avoiding the thread (with the mod not prodding them for 6 day absences contributing to this) as scum. It's definitely something I've seen scum do. Obviously town too, but scum!gypyx has a positive incentive to do it while town!gypyx would just be choosing to be anti-town.
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Post Post #2402 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:20 am

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In post 2400, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2399, Hopkirk wrote:Scum!gypyx keeping doing it would be because it kept working. He got no pressure until like yesterday.
you think scum!gypyx would think, 'implying i am about to do something and then not doing it will continue to ward off votes indefinitely'?
it's worked so far. scum!gypyx would imply that we've not been pushing the best wagons over the game
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Post Post #2403 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:28 am

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In post 2401, Hopkirk wrote:it reminds me of another player who spent 21 days avoiding the thread (with the mod not prodding them for 6 day absences contributing to this) as scum. It's definitely something I've seen scum do. Obviously town too, but scum!gypyx has a positive incentive to do it while town!gypyx would just be choosing to be anti-town.
do you have a link you can show me? i have seen a lot of mafia avoid the thread forever, and i have seen a good number of mafia avoid the thread forever and promise future content, but i have not seen any mafia repeatedly return to the thread and say things like 'okay here i am catchup time' and not catchup and then days later 'sorry for absence again here are some shotgun reads' and just not do that either. like it feels to me that it's intentionally drawing attention to both the absence and the not doing the thing they say they are about to do before disappearing. it doesn't seem like town behaviour to me either,
In post 2402, Hopkirk wrote:it's worked so far. scum!gypyx would imply that we've not been pushing the best wagons over the game
scum!gypyx would assumedly have partners? why would scum!gypyx imply that none of wagons were on one of them?
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Post Post #2404 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:30 am

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and also i guess as a side question to all of this, how much of your current push on gypyx is survivalism and how much is possible connection you see between isis and gypyx? like why now instead of earlier for you, when this has been true of gypyx for a long time, other than there are votes on you and there are also votes on gypyx and the deadline looms
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Post Post #2405 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:32 am

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In post 2404, team rocket queen wrote:survivalism
which is correct regardless of alignment, maybe this does not make sense to ask,
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Post Post #2406 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:47 am

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In post 2403, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 2401, Hopkirk wrote:it reminds me of another player who spent 21 days avoiding the thread (with the mod not prodding them for 6 day absences contributing to this) as scum. It's definitely something I've seen scum do. Obviously town too, but scum!gypyx has a positive incentive to do it while town!gypyx would just be choosing to be anti-town.
do you have a link you can show me? i have seen a lot of mafia avoid the thread forever, and i have seen a good number of mafia avoid the thread forever and promise future content, but i have not seen any mafia repeatedly return to the thread and say things like 'okay here i am catchup time' and not catchup and then days later 'sorry for absence again here are some shotgun reads' and just not do that either. like it feels to me that it's intentionally drawing attention to both the absence and the not doing the thing they say they are about to do before disappearing. it doesn't seem like town behaviour to me either,
In post 2402, Hopkirk wrote:it's worked so far. scum!gypyx would imply that we've not been pushing the best wagons over the game
scum!gypyx would assumedly have partners? why would scum!gypyx imply that none of wagons were on one of them?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 0#p9968036

It took them 13 days and 5 promises of 'I'm catching up now/tomorrow' followed by later repetitions of this.

This post specifically is explaining their mindset (as scum) as to why they didn't catch up until then - TLDR = pressure to catch up and look really towny (makes sense in this context where a lot of people are heavily TR tbh): https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... 6#p9968036

so yeah, mafia avoiding the thread while repeatedly saying 'i'm gonna catchup now/soon'

scum Gypyx would make the people who've been pushed (the deceased TGP, Skitter30/dunn/myself) look better as scum being happy to lurk there would mean they're finer with the direction the game is in and don't have partners they'd be trying to save.
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Post Post #2407 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:53 am

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In post 2404, team rocket queen wrote:
and also i guess as a side question to all of this, how much of your current push on gypyx is survivalism and how much is possible connection you see between isis and gypyx? like why now instead of earlier for you, when this has been true of gypyx for a long time, other than there are votes on you and there are also votes on gypyx and the deadline looms
you're missing out a little bit of policy.

a little survivalism because there's not
really
enough time for much to change right now so I don't have time to go through Pooky/Isis/Skitter30 and try to develop those reads at this point.

mostly because they're in my POE, there's other votes on them, and some stuff pinged me more on a quick reread

like Skitter30 is slightly higher in my scumlist right now, but I really need to review that scumlist and Gypyx has never left my POE and I'm generally happy voting anyone in my POE (pretty sure i say multiple times in death curse this is how i approach things)

eseentially its a wagon that's doable on someone in my POE, with some more scummy pings that've cropped up more recently, so i'm good with this
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Post Post #2408 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:14 am

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In post 2406, Hopkirk wrote:viewtopic.php?p=9968036&user_select%5B%5D=28560#p9968036
thankyou.

it kinda feels like hopkirk may be frustrated that he was getting pushed instead of gypyx; in emitgbsmod i hammered someone in the middle of the day because there were also a lot of votes on someone else who i had a strong power role read on and bingle as mafia was very frustrated that i was not pushed for the hammer and hopkirk feels somewhat similar to that here, but this could possibly be explained by the recent game experience he mentioned, and hopkirk at least seems to want to be playing, so,

VOTE: gypyx

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In post 2377, team rocket queen wrote:i feel that we shouldn't let this go to plurality.
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Post Post #2409 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 1:34 am

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e-2
unofficial votecount

Spoiler:
Isis
:
Flea The Magician
:
Ydrasse (1)
: Flea The Magician ()
Infinity 324
:
Gloria Cleary
:
Morning Tweet
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PookyTheMagicalBear
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skitter30 (1)
: Dunnstral ()
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Gypyx (5)
: Gloria Cleary (), Ydrasse (), Hopkirk (), PookyTheMagicalBear (), team rocket queen ()
Dunnstral
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Hopkirk (3)
: Isis (), skitter30 (), Infinity 324 ()
not voting (2)
: Morning Tweet, Gypyx

deadline
: (expired on 2020-12-07 15:06:18)

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dunnstral votes pooky ()
skitter votes isis ()
infinity votes pooky ()
hopkirk votes dunnstral ()
infinity unvotes ()
skitter votes hopkirk ()
hopkirk votes dunnstral ()
ydrasse votes pooky ()
infinity votes hopkirk ()
isis votes hopkirk ()
gloria cleary votes hopkirk ()
hopkirk votes skitter ()
gloria cleary unvotes ()
jessie votes hopkirk ()
jessie unvotes ()
ydrasse votes skitter ()
infinity votes skitter ()
flea votes jessie ()
infinity votes gypyx ()
skitter votes ydrasse ()
flea votes ydrasse ()
gloria cleary votes gypyx ()
dunnstral votes gypyx ()
ydrasse votes gypyx ()
skitter votes hopkirk ()
dunnstral votes skitter ()
infinity votes hopkirk ()
hopkirk votes gypyx ()
pooky votes gypyx ()
jessie votes gypyx ()

hectic

pookythemagicalbear ()
gloria cleary ()
infinity 324 ()
ydrasse ()
gypyx ()
flea the magician ()
isis ()
jessie ()
dunnstral ()
hopkirk ()

no elimination

jessie ()
morning ()

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Post Post #2410 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:20 am

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In post 2377, team rocket queen wrote:i feel that we shouldn't let this go to plurality.
I don't get it, why not
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Post Post #2411 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:21 am

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In post 2387, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i will be awake before deadline

leaning gypx over hopk

will sheep jessie shamelessly at this point
In post 2392, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok here

VOTE: gypyx

open to changing to dunnstral or sheeping a better plan if something better comes up.
Why say you'll sheep Jessie then decide on your vote anyway on your own shortly after

So if Jessie had voted hopkirk, you would have switched?
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Post Post #2412 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:23 am

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So these are mostly gut feelings, made in like 10 mins, i just wanna say stuff

Flea Tweet
Pooky Gloria Ydrasse Infinity
Isis dunn
*null point*
Jessie skitter
Hopkirk

Also, strategic lurking is a strat i don't like, i avoid doing that as much as possible, why would scum!me even do that more than town me, i'm here to play a game (at least that's what i would've prefered :/) not go "content soon i swear* for a whole week while i'm perfectly able to play the game

gtg wanted to say more stuff will do later
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Post Post #2413 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:25 am

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I don't understand how people can be townreading pooky.
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Post Post #2414 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:31 am

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i can change my vote dunn
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Post Post #2415 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:32 am

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i literally said in my post id rather elim gyp than hopk.
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Post Post #2416 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:33 am

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Yeah but before that you were acting like you were sheeping jessie
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Post Post #2417 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:33 am

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In post 2413, Dunnstral wrote:I don't understand how people can be townreading pooky.
i dont understand how any1 townreads you either.
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Post Post #2418 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:34 am

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In post 2416, Dunnstral wrote:Yeah but before that you were acting like you were sheeping jessie
its literally in the same post
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Post Post #2419 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:34 am

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Who else would you sheep Jessie onto
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Post Post #2420 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:36 am

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In post 2302, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:deadline in 17 hours ill be around

I'd prefer Dunn to Gyp but I'll take Gyp if Dunn isn't available.

I don't want to flip Hop or Skitter.

Gloria-Jessie r my harder TRs

Flea - Ydra are my less hard TRs.

I miss Tweetie and Isis I dunno where they went.
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Post Post #2421 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:38 am

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That's not helpful because it's clearly out of date. Can you update that since you just said you would sheep Jessie onto hopkirk but that days you wouldn't.
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Post Post #2422 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:38 am

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id be ok sheeping her on gyp or infi

i prefer dunn

others id have to think about the case.
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Post Post #2423 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:39 am

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Would you sheep a vote from Jessie onto Isis or Skitter30, ignoring Jessie's current reads and imaging a last minute 'hey y'all I cracked it' from Jessie
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Post Post #2424 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 2:39 am

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sheeping her on hopkirk is pointless because she doesnt need my vote to kill him and i dont think hes scum.
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