BooneyToonz XIV: A Little Boonie Told Me - Lost Memories

[samantha97]

also don't forget that hbb may post that he got fruit

it can be spun in a useful way I'm sure but it really is too early inthemorning for me lol

[samantha97]

so hbb saying that seems good obviously, as it also makes sense with my protect not working on pelican, but here is the current problem:

Bell - vanilla
Shellyc - commuter
Aristophanes - ???
BrightEyedFish - fruit vendor
TheGoldenParadox - ???
Samantha97 - enchantress
Ydrasse - commuter enabler
Happy Birthday Boonskiies - ??? power role
Gypyx - commuter
Happy Unbirthday Boon - vanilla

if they take power role claims at face value, that leaves only 4 places they can look for mafia bus driver: tgp, aristophales, hub, and bell

it also makes no sense for a mafia bus driver to target bell unless bell is the bus driver or a teammate (or the inverse, hbb, but why bring up fruit so close to a lynch as mafia?), and if my ability worked it should block tgp, right?

the solution would then be to claim fruit vendor, but that itself is a problem because why lie about being vanilla on day 3 while calling for massclaims?

and for the 'out' of framing tgp, assuming the above are all true claims, the only people who could have targeted me are hbb and aristophales

so essentially we have to weigh the pros and cons of 2 decisions:

1. wait it out and hope they're dumb and don't see how it can't be anyone other than bell/hope someone says they targeted me/hope someone makes themselves even more suspicious
2. claim fruit vendor and somehow convince them it makes sense for you to lie to the point of being lynched almost, and not counterclaiming another fruit vendor

unless I'm missing something

[samantha97]

idk the only way I can see it being pulled off to claim fruit vendor if is if it's within the scope of your personality to act grateful that hbb finally posted that or something, but then you'd still need justification for waiting

[samantha97]

you'd also have to have a purpose for existing alongside a loyal fruit vendor

[samantha97]

andd there'd need to be a reason bef's didn't send to you, which I guess would be roleblocker

[samantha97]

or that he was lying

probably best to shoot for both if you decide to

[Ydrasse]

so the thing is is that i’m unsure how well it’ll go over after bell being sussed and doubling down on the vt claim? like redacting that and saying oh yeah that was me will look super ?

however it might be the only option? bell you’d have to really sell it to the town but if you can insist that you’re fv maybe it’ll work

[Ydrasse]

the issue is that 1) bef claims loyal which will give this all some scrutiny over a rber existing or not and 2) a lot of this rests on the idea that specifically bef got targeted by a role blocker which i’m unsure is a reasonable expectation for town

[Ydrasse]

also you uh. can’t really claim complex fv i think without it looking super sus

[samantha97]

pointing out mafia inverted could go horribly wrong, such as the realization that my role fits perfectly with that

[samantha97]

although it implies Bell scum because scum are more likely to bus drive one town and one scum. In fact frankly I would think it would make Bell more likely the scum strongman, since scum would actively want the strongman alive so would make him a higher priority for the bus drive

aw there it is

[samantha97]

Activate,Announcing, Ascetic, Backup, Bulletproof, Complex, Combined, Desperate, Enabler, Informed, Macho, Neighbor, Non-Consecutive Night, Weak, X-Shot, Ninja, Compulsive, Loyal, Disloyal, Loud, Recharged, Reflexive, Simple, Split, Strongman, Night Specific (Any form, Even/Odd/Novice included)

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... _modifiers

I would pick one and roleclaim, with an oscar-worthy performance and the conditions mentioned above to make it make sense

I'm tired though so take my advice with a grain of salt

[samantha97]

even an even-night loyal fruit vendor would make sense sort of

maybe

good night

[samantha97]

hmm one more thought before I sleep

being loyal yourself might justify you not claiming before hbb posted

ok bye

[Bell]

Hmm.

I don't think I can pull of an ocsar worthy performance.

[Ydrasse]

i BELIEVE IN YOU BELL!!!

[Ydrasse]

i don't think that they'll do a 1-1 connection to inverted + enchantress and i think it's best to bring it up in the midst of all this stuff when it's like, mired up in bell/bus driver/etc than later when people might've figured it out?

also if people think it's the variant scum role i think they're less likely to think you're scum enchantress. town maybe as it's looking but not scum @sam

[samantha97]

I'm sad cause I was gonna use my own role to reinforce it by saying that my role needs not only roles that can target but roles that give feedback when targeting, and you and bef would have been the only ones

I really think it could have saved you

[samantha97]

Also, if the only explanation for my fruit is a bus drive since no one is claiming it Bell isn't even guiltied anymore. We should be reading him off of content rather than anything else
Wait, but then I think Samantha, Ydrasse, and HUB all look like town so what am I even doing in terms of suspects
Oh, Ari
VOTE: Aristophanes

ilu

[samantha97]

aw bye bell

[samantha97]

what's your feel? I kinda think we need to kill hbb? or should we go for another commuter while we can guarantee it with me alive?

[Ydrasse]

i think we might have to kill hbb yeah :/ or bef?

[Ydrasse]

options options

[samantha97]

bell's role confirms hbb as either a town power role or lying mafia, exploiting bell's imminent death

assuming that no one in town lied, hbb has this role https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Mailman

pros to killing hbb:
- almost no one has suspected him and he's hard to lynch as a baseline
- he might have a better power role than that
- people may not even consider he is mafia after bell died
- his opinion of us being town could change
- framing someone, if he targets me, could result in me being voted the next day if they don't believe he was roleblocked/lying

cons to killing hbb:
- it's suspicious if he lives, as it makes no sense on the surface for us not to kill the only role unknown to mafia (we've shown we can nightkill commuters, and bef being non-consecutive means I couldn't out mafia with my role tonight (or the next night if "they" just kill bef))
- he has said he thinks we both are town
- we could use his ability in conjunction with mine to frame someone
- framing someone could frame him as lying about it to frame someone
- 100% kill chance on commuters tonight

what do you think?

[Ydrasse]

which commuter would we want to kill if we decide not to?

shelly has a bad solve right now and gypyx is kind of out of it when it comes to the game as a whole