Newbie 2043: Cherfnul - Game Over


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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:53 pm

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In post 497, clidd wrote:
In post 495, Trendall wrote:I can't work out the town motivation for claiming so early?
Maybe being top 2 SR?
You may be a top 2 SR, but there is no need to claim when your wagon is still E-3 and there is still a larger and more motivated wagon than yours.
clidd wrote:Maybe a big case against me?
? Who has a big case against you again? Everyone has small shards of scummy behavior but no one has a massive case against you.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:54 pm

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In post 499, Trendall wrote:Yeah so as mafia you sacrifice yourself to out a pr.
I was going to say setup is down to double goons or any setup with Doc, but I suppose if clidd's partner is competent enough maybe he wanted to sack himself to out a pr. Although, that's not a great strat to use...
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 4:57 pm

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Nah, I'm pretty sure everyone was sus/paranoid to a certain extent with my slot. I received a lot of negative attention.
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:01 pm

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And I kind of let the wave move, to see how far it would go.

I'm "ok" with claiming, if that means that we will have a decent PoE.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:04 pm

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In post 503, clidd wrote:And I kind of let the wave move, to see how far it would go.

I'm "ok" with claiming, if that means that we will have a decent PoE.
Aren't PoE's way more effective after flips?
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:04 pm

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In post 499, Trendall wrote:Yeah so as mafia you sacrifice yourself to out a pr.
Mafia can do that without claiming.

But yeah, I understand what you're saying.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:05 pm

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Oops I was going vote you Clidd.The flattery bit just didnt seem town.Probably I shall wait for a counterclaim.
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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:06 pm

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In post 505, clidd wrote:Mafia can do that without claiming.

But yeah, I understand what you're saying.
How would you do it?
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:07 pm

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In post 507, Trendall wrote:
In post 505, clidd wrote:Mafia can do that without claiming.

But yeah, I understand what you're saying.
How would you do it?
Rolefishing.
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:07 pm

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But not by being obvious, of course.
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:08 pm

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In post 504, ben dover123 wrote:
In post 503, clidd wrote:And I kind of let the wave move, to see how far it would go.

I'm "ok" with claiming, if that means that we will have a decent PoE.
Aren't PoE's way more effective after flips?
With a Rock flip, it would.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:09 pm

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In post 383, Trendall wrote:I mean Chumbo could easily be the mafia.
Based on what?
In post 406, Lunar Martian wrote:Hello! I had some issues with permissions and couldn't post. I haven't read the whole thread yet, but to answer Mr. Dover, this is my first game so I'm not really sure about any of that. I played a few games of irl mafia with some friends, but haven't played online so I'm really not sure what to expect. So far the people I'm most suspicious of are clidd who seems a bit off and artificial, and ben dover who looks like he's trying to look like hes being helpful without doing much to actually help or solve. On this page for example, Ben attacks Lavar for voting for Rockhopper, while he himself is also voting for Rockhopper and is pushing for more votes there.

VOTE: ben dover123
I really don't think ben is scum. I did before, but with his meta analysis and other newer posts, it doesn't seem like he is anymore. I don't see scum intentions.
In post 409, Battle Mage wrote:A great question. It depends - I am generally a "hammer first, ask questions later" sorta guy.
I'm not really a fan of this answer, would you at least wait for a claim?
In post 470, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Chumbo
Why? You have said nothing about me.
In post 480, clidd wrote:
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I'm a town PR and my role is Doctor.

I need you to actually burn your scumcase on me and forget every reason that says that I'm scum, so we can work together.
Why would you do this? :roll:
In post 499, Trendall wrote:Yeah so as mafia you sacrifice yourself to out a pr.
I highly doubt this. I still think this was a bad thing to do, but I don't see why mafia would sacrifice themself when they only have 2 votes on them.
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:10 pm

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I don't see why town would claim when they only have two votes on them, that's the problem I'm having.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:11 pm

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In post 506, LoneMarkhor wrote:Oops I was going vote you Clidd.The flattery bit just didnt seem town.Probably I shall wait for a counterclaim.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:11 pm

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Also he's never getting eliminated is he so he doesn't even has to sacrifice himself at all necessarily.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:11 pm

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In post 510, clidd wrote:
In post 504, ben dover123 wrote:
In post 503, clidd wrote:And I kind of let the wave move, to see how far it would go.

I'm "ok" with claiming, if that means that we will have a decent PoE.
Aren't PoE's way more effective after flips?
With a Rock flip, it would.
:thonk: I'm not going for a Rock flip if this is how you are advocating it. Plus, I need to see how this claim unfolds before we do anything about Rock.
Trendall wrote:I don't see why town would claim when they only have two votes on them, that's the problem I'm having.
Yeah...honestly it could be seen as a panic claim ngl.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:12 pm

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In post 512, Trendall wrote:I don't see why town would claim when they only have two votes on them, that's the problem I'm having.
I think I already contextualized the scenario.
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:12 pm

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In post 514, Trendall wrote:Also he's never getting eliminated is he so he doesn't even has to sacrifice himself at all necessarily.
Wdym? He could have been hanged today...
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:14 pm

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In post 514, Trendall wrote:Also he's never getting eliminated is he so he doesn't even has to sacrifice himself at all necessarily.
This isn't true imo, but ok.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:14 pm

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Wait, actually, it is. I would claim I get to E-1
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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:16 pm

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In post 519, clidd wrote:Wait, actually, it is. I would claim I get to E-1
Then why didn't you wait a bit till you were at E-1 to claim then? I'm still not quite understanding the whole scenario...
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:18 pm

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I was tired on the huge bias on me, maybe?
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:18 pm

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In post 516, clidd wrote:I think I already contextualized the scenario.
I mean if I were you I would have made up something about it being near the deadline and wanting to avoid a no elimination or whatever.
In post 518, clidd wrote:This isn't true imo, but ok.
As soon as somebody wants to eliminate you, ben dover123 will pop up and say
"Wait, what? :thonk: You seriously want to eliminate an unccd pr? smh"
and given how schmoozey you've been with him it wouldn't surprise me if that was what you were banking on.
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:19 pm

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Maybe I'm just expecting too much of clidd I dunno.
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 5:21 pm

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In post 519, clidd wrote:Wait, actually, it is. I would claim I get to E-1
Yeah I meant like, you're never getting eliminated after having claimed doctor. Before I'm not sure about.
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