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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:22 pm

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don't need to get titus gone when u can just change their alignment to yours
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:23 pm

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In post 2197, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2189, Flavor Leaf wrote:Also, so happy nobody picked up on my Andres fear kill.
I think I did. I know I assigned a reason in the PT to it. Can’t remember if I thought it was you or Titus. I knew Johnny was a fear kill.

I wanna see why your team didn’t kill me or Ranny N2.
Johnny actually wasn’t a fear kill.

It was a setup game thread so you look like you’re derp tunneling or scumMason possibility kill.

Johnny was just an extra vote to take off.

I wasn’t lying when I said I would normally never make that kill, which is indirectly why I wanted it. It helped create gamestate.
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:23 pm

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Also, shout out to Outer for calling out Town likely having a Neapolitan. It’s how I knew what to claim against NPOM.
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:24 pm

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Shush I'm scary
Phone posting. Low effort, big fun.
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:25 pm

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when someone calls out your whole scumteam upon replacing in thats a fearkill whether you explain it that way or not :lol:
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:26 pm

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In post 2193, OutWorldER wrote:GG's

first scum game on this site, I didn't really act independently but I thought I did well enough.
It was rough because you and Alch posting probably would have outed you guys as scum unless you were like really on it, and able to do some major townie ness, but that was always going to be risky.

I felt so good about your natural instinct, and you were like obv scum after NPOM flip, you were just part of the POE.

Day 3 here was always gonna be the hardest day, but just like with that game where I was scum with Kkoba, getting through that Day 3 that way sets Day 4 up to be a reset.
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:27 pm

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If I didn’t get cocky and try to fade a mason, I would have killed them instead of Johnny.
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:27 pm

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But yes, Johnny had the solve there. It was always a danger, you are correct, not taking anything away, just explaining my thought process.
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:31 pm

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In post 2199, MathBlade wrote:
In post 2192, Rannygazoo wrote:Yes, I’m fine with releasing the mason pt now.
Btw, you were awesome Ranny. It was a loss sure but please please don’t take this to heart as you having a bad game. :)
Thank you! And don’t blame yourself of the loss. Picking Titus to railroad was my decision. I was at least 51% sure the two of us solved it right together. Then no elim announced they’re not reading, and given that BM tended to get flighty and change wagons at the end of the day (not passing blame, just stating observations), I decided it best to take our solve and go all the way with it, rather than expecting them to solve later. I feel bad for losing but tbh I’d probably play it the same way again under the same circumstances.
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:34 pm

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12370924

@Kkoba - Yeah, I understood that last game why Andres should not be left alive late game. I was lucky I had a strong net in place in that game on him by accident.

Also, this is how I get you ;P You'll need to see a few more before you truly understand.

I'm extremely aware of players knowing how I play and what I'll need to do and what not to do to get around it, I play towards the people in the game.

Which is why replacements suck as scum

Mathblade and Johnny prove that. :lol:
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:35 pm

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Just needed to pivot, though.
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:35 pm

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Fun setup.

Rolestopper probably one of my favorite roles, so glad Alch had that.
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:46 pm

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People seem a bit harsh on Titus.

You have to remember, Titus is probably one of the players I know best on site, so I played in a way where I knew how to lock in her pocket.

I actively wanted to abuse her VCA in a way where it didn't look like someone trying to avoid her VCA.

Whoever stated "anyone who quickhammers here is lockscum" gave us reason to doubt Outer being scum, and alongside playing into the Titus pocket, we weren't bussing each other, so it was extremely hard for you guys to get the right amount of votes on any of us, and we were too on the nose scum team for it to look like the main scum team
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:48 pm

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In post 2212, Flavor Leaf wrote:People seem a bit harsh on Titus.

You have to remember, Titus is probably one of the players I know best on site, so I played in a way where I knew how to lock in her pocket.

I actively wanted to abuse her VCA in a way where it didn't look like someone trying to avoid her VCA.

Whoever stated "anyone who quickhammers here is lockscum" gave us reason to doubt Outer being scum, and alongside playing into the Titus pocket, we weren't bussing each other, so it was extremely hard for you guys to get the right amount of votes on any of us, and we were too on the nose scum team for it to look like the main scum team
I had that problem too trying to navigate an outer wagon. It was just four and we needed a fifth. Titus wasn’t going to do it. Alch wasn’t going to do it, and my post to no elim got buried. Well done.

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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:49 pm

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Alchemist and I are 3 wins 0 losses as a team now.
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:50 pm

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That was me tempting outer to quickhammer, and yeah, I scumread sb9 for leaning into the policy elim that I suggested.
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:50 pm

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He really played a strong empowering me game.
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:51 pm

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In post 2215, Rannygazoo wrote:That was me tempting outer to quickhammer, and yeah, I scumread sb9 for leaning into the policy elim that I suggested.
Sb9 pushing policy hard definitely let me abuse that idea as well.


I was telling everyone how anti bus I am. :lol:
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:52 pm

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In post 44, Titus wrote:I'm in a no bullshit mood and I am sick of getting nightkilled day one and then praying people solve without me.
How much of this was real and how much was baiting a night kill on a vt?
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:54 pm

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there's still 0 excuse to let outworld not get limmed after what happened d1. thats a policy that should always be upheld
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:54 pm

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In post 2218, Rannygazoo wrote:
In post 44, Titus wrote:I'm in a no bullshit mood and I am sick of getting nightkilled day one and then praying people solve without me.
How much of this was real and how much was baiting a night kill on a vt?
Curious on that as well. I actually took it at face value and voted against killing her N1 just so she could actually play the game.
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:57 pm

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In post 2219, DkKoba wrote:there's still 0 excuse to let outworld not get limmed after what happened d1. thats a policy that should always be upheld
in a perfect world, sure, I like Mastina's point about it in the dead thread.

But I would have hammered Benslot there as town, probably not if it was actually Ben, though, if that makes sense.

I just like getting past Day 1 as town. I also supported Outer as town at the end of the day, so the GAMEFIC was "Outer is being town read for the quickhammer." so SBowl was an easy push because they were pushing policy, if that makes sense, which is super easy to defend against.
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:00 pm

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also curious about Titus's thing D1, since I actually took it and read her as BP lmao
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:01 pm

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Second straight game where I called out two scum.
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:02 pm

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I think this was a very informative loss for me though, I learned a lot.
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