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Post Post #1775 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:55 am

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In post 1763, Polar Bear Express wrote:Me briefly skimmed and methinks Double looks terrible. The way they approach this BM wagon and squash my terribly weak TL on BM is just not ok.

I see the case on BM and I'm willing to cave except that I think softing pr on day 1 is risky play cuz u might attract trackers/watchers/cops/whatever. Methinks its not optimal play for scum!BM here especially cuz if he didn't, his wagon wouldn't have exploded like that(imo)

Me also is not SRing BM tho that may be a red flag considering I've never not SRed town!BM before :/

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you have scumread me in every game. I was mostly town but occasionally scum.
In post 1762, MURDERCAT wrote:I'm more interested in the wagon analysis than the posting frequency argument.

BM to what point have you actually read? What are your top SRs and TRs?
i was about halfway through last night. i had Gloria, Bell and Ydrasse as townreads from what i recall. Scumreading Mastina for her interaction with Flavor Leaf, but not her tunnel on me - she did exactly the same as town in both of our previous games together - once I was scum, once I was town.

I'll have a proper sense when I finish reading shortly, and also need to answer Pooky's Q about who on my wagon is scum.
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Post Post #1776 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:56 am

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I think Norwee-Alisae is probably scum. Hard to believe 2 such capable players, 1 of whom has lots of experience with me, would both be scumreading me here.
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Post Post #1777 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:56 am

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but would FL pick Hydras? Hydras dont tend to do so well. hmm, probably not lots of them.
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Post Post #1778 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:57 am

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ok im gonna get some dinner, then finish reading. Noraa, you're prohibited from posting until I'm done :lol:
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Post Post #1779 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:00 am

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he said Noraa, not Polar Bear Express
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Post Post #1780 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:01 am

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But it’s lunch time
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Post Post #1781 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:05 am

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what you having spiffeh spiffeh spiffeh
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Post Post #1782 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:26 am

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VOTE: DEB

I've acknowledged how many people dislike this slot

I have also acknowledged how it has zero votes currently

This is the result of putting two and two together

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Post Post #1783 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:28 am

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It’s always food time
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Post Post #1784 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:43 am

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In post 1776, Battle Mage wrote:I think Norwee-Alisae is probably scum. Hard to believe 2 such capable players, 1 of whom has lots of experience with me, would both be scumreading me here.
What was i supposed to townread you off? Your inordinate amount of nothing stances and dodgy behaviour? BoP arguments only really work if meta suggests i’m wrong, but if we go by meta you are clearly acting way off your normal townie behaviour.

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Post Post #1785 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:47 am

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I mean what exactly are you expecting me to be seeing from you here?
A town BM that makes weak votes, says they didn’t read the game but not really, and in the end brings up Burden of Proficiency when called out on it?

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Post Post #1786 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:52 am

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In post 1775, Battle Mage wrote:i was about halfway through last night. i had Gloria, Bell and Ydrasse as townreads from what i recall.
Gloria? The person that’s said absolutely nothing? Ydrasse is town but you don’t mention Pichu?
Why Bell?

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Post Post #1787 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 6:58 am

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In post 1775, Battle Mage wrote:Scumreading Mastina for her interaction with Flavor Leaf, but not her tunnel on me - she did exactly the same as town in both of our previous games together - once I was scum, once I was town.
You’ve actually based a read on someone’s interaction with Flavour Leaf..
So Mastina’s push on you is not scum indicative, but they are still scum? This sounds really fake.

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Post Post #1788 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:03 am

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In post 1784, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 1776, Battle Mage wrote:I think Norwee-Alisae is probably scum. Hard to believe 2 such capable players, 1 of whom has lots of experience with me, would both be scumreading me here.
What was i supposed to townread you off?
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The point is that you didn't have enough to read me off full stop. In essence, I wouldn't expect 2 good independent protown players to both settle on a top scumread of a guy who was VLA for the 48 hour life of the game. Doesn't mean you should have townread me either. But the fact you came to such a strong consensus doesn't look legit.
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Post Post #1789 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:05 am

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In post 1787, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 1775, Battle Mage wrote:Scumreading Mastina for her interaction with Flavor Leaf, but not her tunnel on me - she did exactly the same as town in both of our previous games together - once I was scum, once I was town.
You’ve actually based a read on someone’s interaction with Flavour Leaf..
So Mastina’s push on you is not scum indicative, but they are still scum? This sounds really fake.

- Norwee
lol Norwee, this game is going to be such a chore if all you're going to do is slate me for every opinion I have. If you're town, knock it off. You made such a fuss earlier about wanting to know what I think, and yet when I say what I think, you bad-faith it to death.

Where's the objective and balanced town-Norwee I remember?
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Post Post #1790 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:06 am

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In post 1788, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1784, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 1776, Battle Mage wrote:I think Norwee-Alisae is probably scum. Hard to believe 2 such capable players, 1 of whom has lots of experience with me, would both be scumreading me here.
What was i supposed to townread you off?
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The point is that you didn't have enough to read me off full stop. In essence, I wouldn't expect 2 good independent protown players to both settle on a top scumread of a guy who was VLA for the 48 hour life of the game. Doesn't mean you should have townread me either. But the fact you came to such a strong consensus doesn't look legit.
Haha yes, that would sound good for you if it wasn't an blatant misrepresentation of our read.
It is in fact your still avoidance of any real read and engagement on the thread (ignoring your attack on us, as that's easy for scum!you to replicate) that's been increasing my scumread on you for every minute since that V/LA has subsided.

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Post Post #1791 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:08 am

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In post 1786, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 1775, Battle Mage wrote:i was about halfway through last night. i had Gloria, Bell and Ydrasse as townreads from what i recall.
Gloria? The person that’s said absolutely nothing? Ydrasse is town but you don’t mention Pichu?
Why Bell?

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lol dude, let's be real - are you actually trying to solve my slot or just run me up to save yourself? It looks quite transparently like the latter, so would be good to be clear on whether I need to respond. And I mean, if you actually want to understand my reads to date, you could read the very few posts I have, rather than making me waste time re-gurgitating what I've already said, so I can focus on new stuff. Just a thought. ;)

although on a serious point, yes Pichu was in my townreads too, well remembered! :nerd:
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Post Post #1792 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:09 am

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Go ahead and focus on new stuff then. Nothing's stopping you.

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Post Post #1793 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:11 am

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In post 1790, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 1788, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 1784, Double the Trouble wrote:
In post 1776, Battle Mage wrote:I think Norwee-Alisae is probably scum. Hard to believe 2 such capable players, 1 of whom has lots of experience with me, would both be scumreading me here.
What was i supposed to townread you off?
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The point is that you didn't have enough to read me off full stop. In essence, I wouldn't expect 2 good independent protown players to both settle on a top scumread of a guy who was VLA for the 48 hour life of the game. Doesn't mean you should have townread me either. But the fact you came to such a strong consensus doesn't look legit.
Haha yes, that would sound good for you if it wasn't an blatant misrepresentation of our read.
It is in fact your still avoidance of any real read and engagement on the thread (ignoring your attack on us, as that's easy for scum!you to replicate) that's been increasing my scumread on you for every minute since that V/LA has subsided.

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i'm sure you will continue to dismiss my reads as "that's easy for scum!you to replicate". You have played with me as scum, and I did in fact, have some reads. :roll:

Your post above feels too performative to me, and I don't buy that you and Alisae as town are both eager to Day 1 quick-elim an experienced player with a known propensity to obvtown. You're both better than that.
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Post Post #1794 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:13 am

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In post 1792, Double the Trouble wrote:Go ahead and focus on new stuff then. Nothing's stopping you.

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excellent. while I do that, how about you and Alisae spend some time coming up with a credible scumread based on something other than "player X didn't post much in the last few hours".
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Post Post #1795 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:50 am

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Birthday today, will post tmrw, have a good one.
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Post Post #1796 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:28 am

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In post 1763, Polar Bear Express wrote:Me briefly skimmed and methinks Double looks terrible. The way they approach this BM wagon and squash my terribly weak TL on BM is just not ok.

I see the case on BM and I'm willing to cave except that I think softing pr on day 1 is risky play cuz u might attract trackers/watchers/cops/whatever. Methinks its not optimal play for scum!BM here especially cuz if he didn't, his wagon wouldn't have exploded like that(imo)

Me also is not SRing BM tho that may be a red flag considering I've never not SRed town!BM before :/

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Post Post #1797 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:25 am

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In post 1157, Battle Mage wrote:
In post 883, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Battle Mage is my bro

we go way back

he would never betray me for some random new-school dude
I got you man. Be sure to tell these folks I'm town :lol:
ok going from page 30. It's a 'doozy'. Starts with Alisae in the Double Trouble hotseat, deciding I'm town. Then Pichu throws some shade at Double Trouble for buddying me, and they do a 180 to attack me for... using the search function. Interesting they throw out on this page the idea that both heads of a hydra being united is a towntell - I think the opposite, and it's much easier for a scum hydra with a gameplan and wanting to avoid unwanted attention to stay more or less on the same page.
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Post Post #1798 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:26 am

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lol ignore the quote...unless you're Pooky I guess :lol:
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