PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Flavor Leaf]

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[Battle Mage]

uh idk if anyone's said it about bm's few posts but isn't he like, always v/la on the weekends? he generally is in games i play w him

hi Ydrasse. I'm normally VLA on alternate weekends, depending on how my games are going. If I'm in like 1 slow game, I normally don't bother going VLA as I can keep up.

[Battle Mage]

page 31 - random splurge from Creature, but doesn't take the ready bait of directing DEB's vote. Maybe Creature-town more likely to do so, I know I would have.
page 32 - random attack from Double Trouble on Netflix and Chill. they have been quiet though. possible distancing?
page 33 - i'd forgotten about the random Informed Townie claim by Netflix and Chill. yeah, it feels a bit gambity, and the sort of thing Flavor might instruct someone to do.
page 34 - i know i say this in every mastina game, but the idea someone is "locktown" because they share 1 read with you is...not good.
page 35 - post 872 by Double Trouble is a little close to the bone. Hard to fathom why a town hydra ever makes a post considering how they can artificially make themselves seem more town.
page 36 - post 886 reads as genuine exasperation by Bell. mild carefree townvibe from Spiffeh.

[Polar Bear Express]

Noraa, the lack of gloria kinda has me worried. I don't really care if she reads but can you ask her to pop her head in so I can ask a few random questions and maybe increase her engagement with the game?
If she isn't feeling up for it that's fine but if it's more not wanting to read 80 pages she can still come say hi and chat about real time stuff.

Hey MC, sorry I’ve not been feeling too well recently and this game is going really fast and with Noraa hyper posting, I decided that I’d start doing more once the gamestate is clearer to me if that makes sense?

I have definitely been talking to Noraa in our Discord chat and hydra PT about any relevant points. So, while I haven’t been following the game extremely closely.

I agree with her vote on Ircher. In no particular order, like N & C, Pichu, Yydrasse, Solstice, Bell and you so far, maybe Mastina as well.

Anyway, you should ask Pooky to verify that what Noraa is saying about me is true because he can confirm that I have been having a rough time of it recently.

However, feel free to ask me questions and I’ll answer them as best I can.

[Battle Mage]

yo Pooky, are you here for some real time mafia in real time?

[MURDERCAT]

page 33 - i'd forgotten about the random Informed Townie claim by Netflix and Chill. yeah, it feels a bit gambity, and the sort of thing Flavor might instruct someone to do.

netflix is obv town from my pov

[Double the Trouble]

Me briefly skimmed and methinks Double looks terrible. The way they approach this BM wagon and squash my terribly weak TL on BM is just not ok.

I don't agree with Alisae's scumread on you for what it's worth.
Alisae even suggested Mastina might be bussing Battle Mage, i think that's just wrong. Mastina is one of my strongest townreads so far.

- Norwee

can u not out that I think its possible for mastina to be bussing battle mage?
That was NOT meant to be public thread knowledge and I wanted to keep that to myself for reasons

[MURDERCAT]

Hi Gloria glad to have you here

Hope you feel better soon

Anywhere you have disagreed with Noraa if you've been keeping up at all?

[Double the Trouble]

But for teh record
Yes
I don’t like Noraa’s soft defense of battle mage like, at all, and if battle mage flips red it’s super suspect

[MURDERCAT]

Lol Norwee is in trouble

[Not Known 15]

I think I made a mistake... norwee wasn't as spammy as it looked to me yesterday. Strange.

Town treestump or not, this is still an awful post and awful idea, and I'm going to continue repeating this until you reevaluate. I townread at least half this pool (including me), probably 3/4s even. (Battle Mage is the main question mark due to not contributing over the weekend.)

Yaknow what.

I think I'm going to actually call Ircher town for this.

It might seem odd.

Out of all the things Ircher's posted, this is the thing that makes me think town?

But actually...as a matter of fact: yes.

I do not believe that scum-Ircher takes this approach to the town treestump. I realize that he's in the list so he has reason to say this regardless, but the way he's going about it and the mindset and attitude is something that I don't think scum-Ircher has the gall to do.
Specifically because.

I expect the scum here to, unless absolutely desperate, mostly sheep the ic and try to get on Pooky's good side to manipulate Pooky.
Ircher's post here is doing the opposite and it doesn't look out of desperation. He's actively antagonizing Pooky, something that is likely to earn the ire of our conftown. And that's not something I think he does if scum, especially not with FL at the reigns.

So, yes: I am going out on a limb here and saying Ircher is probably town here now.

Yes, really.

So I happen to actually agree with his assessment here; I think 3/4 of the names in Pooky's list are town, with the only scum being Battle Mage.

Does scum-Ircher take this approach if FlavorLeaf asks them to, and if yes, is it likely that FL asks them to?
Don't forget: FL made a mistake by telling us they meta-ed everyone - it means that they'll likely be able to make meta less effective here.
As a result,

you should throw all meta susceptible to FL intervention out of your reads

[Double the Trouble]

And I think it was possible that mastina could have been bussing battle mage, and I was going to take steps to find that out
But now I can’t because now its known that I thought it could be a possibility
Thank you norwee

[Double the Trouble]

@Pichu and Netflix

you two had concerns about me?
I think now is the time to attempt to settle those concerns down a bit tbh

[Battle Mage]

I mean yeah, Norwee. But given how that went down with you two I was respecting your privacy.

Anyways, @Spiffeh- I don’t have a read because there’s too many goddamn shiny things this game. I know this isn’t the answer you are looking for but it’s the one you’re getting.

Ninja-
I’m not opposed to a BM quick wagon if it keeps this game under 80 pages d1

might be cutting it fine at the moment!

ydra are you ok?

yes

feeling less good about Ydrasse now. She is very bombastic which is not her scum meta at all, but FL does weird things to people too. In our last game, he turned OutWorldER from a moderate into the most brazen blatant scum ever, and still managed to win.

page 44, i'm getting there!

[Blade Dancer]

Official Vote Count 1.13

Battle Mage

(6): mastina, Creature, Toogeloo, Spiffeh, Dunnstral, Double the Trouble

Ircher

(4): Netflix and Chill, Bell, Polar Bear Express, Dr Easy Bake

Double the Trouble

(4): pichu, Ydrasse, Not Known 15, Battle Mage

MURDERCAT

(1): Ircher

Dr Easy Bake

(1): Solstice

Not Voting

(1): MURDERCAT

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to execute.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-12-14 16:00:00)

Edited to remove addition error.

[Not Known 15]

but FL does weird things to people too. In our last game, he turned OutWorldER from a moderate into the most brazen blatant scum ever, and still managed to win.

Don't forget: FL made a mistake by telling us they meta-ed everyone - it means that they'll likely be able to make meta less effective here.
As a result,

you should throw all meta susceptible to FL intervention out of your reads

Yeah...

[Not Known 15]

but FL does weird things to people too. In our last game, he turned OutWorldER from a moderate into the most brazen blatant scum ever, and still managed to win.

Don't forget: FL made a mistake by telling us they meta-ed everyone - it means that they'll likely be able to make meta less effective here.
As a result,

you should throw all meta susceptible to FL intervention out of your reads

Yeah...

OOPS.
Misquote - the second part is from me

[Battle Mage]

while I'm here (thanks Titus), thoughts on my wagon:

Toogeloo-town
Spiffeh-neutral
Dunnstral-neutral
Creature - scumlean
Mastina - scumlean
Double Trouble - scum

So I'd say 2 scum on my wagon is likely (as there's a big incentive for scum to try and elim me early)

[Battle Mage]

but FL does weird things to people too. In our last game, he turned OutWorldER from a moderate into the most brazen blatant scum ever, and still managed to win.

Don't forget: FL made a mistake by telling us they meta-ed everyone - it means that they'll likely be able to make meta less effective here.
As a result,

you should throw all meta susceptible to FL intervention out of your reads

Yeah...

isn't that basically what i said?

[Battle Mage]

page 46, I like MorningTweet here. This feels like the same style she adopted when we epically hydra'd together recently as town.

[Not Known 15]

but FL does weird things to people too. In our last game, he turned OutWorldER from a moderate into the most brazen blatant scum ever, and still managed to win.

Don't forget: FL made a mistake by telling us they meta-ed everyone - it means that they'll likely be able to make meta less effective here.
As a result,

you should throw all meta susceptible to FL intervention out of your reads

Yeah...

isn't that basically what i said?

Yes, exactly... but I said it earlier(just like I said, accidental misquote of post 1810 mixed with yours)
and yes I agree with this obviously and I hope this throws out some people townreading other people for easily copyable meta...

[Battle Mage]

I don’t care
Play the game

Like ur no exception
Everyone is playing and its d1
D1 isn’t an excuse to not play

Play the game or die.

in my limited experience of Alisae...this strikes me as odd.

Okay so here's why I voted Ydrasse. First of all, I didn't like how they were interacting with pichu; that still looks like a scum-scum interaction. All it served to do was clutter several pages with nothing of use.

I also don't like 349. She has multiple posts beforehand and interactions with other players/the stumps. There was zero need to post it; it just fills up the thread with unnecessary clutter.

After that, we have the whole pichu and Ydrasse interaction. I will say it as many times as I must, but that really felt like a SvS interaction. /MAYBE/ it was a TvS interaction, but I doubt it was TvT. 352, 354 are especially bad. Their interaction also took up an entire 3 pages and yet didn't move the game forward in any significant away. That just awfully seems like scum theatre.

i dont agree

Hey mastina I also think Creature has a good shot at being scum do you town read me yet?

i like it, townpoints for Spiffeh. (unlikely scum antagonises Mastina there if Mastina-town, or patronises Mastina there if Mastina-scum).

Netflix and Chill (notscience and Brian Skies) - Solid Town
Spiffeh - sorting in progress
Creature - null
Polar Bear Express (Noraa and Gloria Cleary) - Town Maybe?
Ydrasse - Town
Solstice (Mistyx and Morning Tweet) - Maybe town?
pichu - town
Not Known 15 - ?
Toogeloo - maybe town?
MURDERCAT - leaning scum
Battle Mage - leaning scum
Bell - actually very unimpressive recently. I think I last had this as town. I'm having a hard time remembering what Bell has done. I think I should reach out to bell at some point the next time he's in thread.
Dr Easy Bake - Post or die
Dunnstral - Lean scum
mastina - I think I am starting to feel better about this being town at this moment but this read will go lower if the flips are bad.
Ircher - I'd imagine more likely town than scum?

the Double Trouble slot is going way OTT on these readslists. it stands out.

[Not Known 15]

Ircher - I'd imagine more likely town than scum?

Ircher - DT could be S/S

[Battle Mage]

page 51. I'm coming round to the idea that I'd like to elim a quieter low-profile slot today. seems to work a treat in large themes lately.

[Battle Mage]

So I am here and caught up. There is a ton of noise still. I'm gunna like, not really share my reads? I kind of feel like Pooky should be leading more?
If any of you want anything from me let me know.

bit yikes

Allow me to sum up the last 10 pages of content

Allow me to sum up the last few murdercat posts

this is fair on MC, it's pretty passive. not appropo of anything, but I'm not sure whether I care that Netflix and Chill is a non-signing hydra. Brian Skies is reputedly a good player.