Newbie 2043: Cherfnul - Game Over

clidd · Post Post #925 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:57 pm

Trendal,

are you there?

I can give you a rope or I can go down with you if you want. It's your choice.

But.. If I go down there, a

lot

of people will have a hard time up here and they need you too.

ben dover123 · Post Post #926 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:00 pm

I think it's the other way around, clidd.

clidd · Post Post #927 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:00 pm

But you got the idea.

Trendall · Post Post #928 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:01 pm

clidd tried to use data in a misleading way as well, he posted everyones post counts to try and get an elimination on one of the quieter players. But this doesn't take into account the fact that players like me make lots of short posts with virtually no analysis, whereas players such as Battle Mage leave longer posts with more analysis - like one of his posts is worth ten of mine or whatever. But his presenting the numbers as though they are just meant to be taken at face value is another like, deceitful thing he's done there.

ben dover123 · Post Post #929 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:02 pm

In post 923, ben dover123 wrote:clidd, why did you pocket me again?

I'd like an answer to this as well.

Trendall · Post Post #930 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:03 pm

In post 925, clidd wrote:and they need you too.

See he tried making me doubt myself and he tried saying that I am anti-town, but neither of those worked. So now he's switched to 'the town needs you' like he can't be consistent about what his own opinions are which is a thing that mafia do.

clidd · Post Post #931 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:04 pm

Sophism in action.

clidd · Post Post #932 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:05 pm

My offer stills open, are you going to take it?

Trendall · Post Post #933 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:05 pm

What was it I've forgotten?

Trendall · Post Post #934 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:05 pm

What was it I've forgotten?

Trendall · Post Post #935 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:05 pm

Forgot so hard that I had to ask twice actually

ben dover123 · Post Post #936 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:05 pm

In post 931, clidd wrote:Sophism in action.

I don't think this is sophism...Trendall is making a good point.

clidd wrote:My offer stills open, are you going to take it?

No, Trendall already dropped you down the hole.

clidd · Post Post #937 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:06 pm

I selfvote and give you hammer, I guess.

ben dover123 · Post Post #938 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:07 pm

In post 930, Trendall wrote:
In post 925, clidd wrote:and they need you too.
See he tried making me doubt myself and he tried saying that I am anti-town, but neither of those worked. So now he's switched to 'the town needs you' like he can't be consistent about what his own opinions are which is a thing that mafia do.

He hasn't been consistent all game, I've noticed that at the very least.

Pedit: I hate this defeatism. Like, I

hate

it. This isn't town clidd behavior at all.

Trendall · Post Post #939 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:07 pm

I just looked up this word 'sophism', and I feel like if something is a sophism then it would never need to be pointed out because it would be easy to just explain the actual reason why the argument is fallacious.

ben dover123 · Post Post #940 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:07 pm

In post 939, Trendall wrote:I just looked up this word 'sophism', and I feel like if something is a sophism then it would never need to be pointed out because it would be easy to just explain the actual reason why the argument is fallacious.

:thonk:

LavarManos · Post Post #941 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:08 pm

Hi guys

Trendall · Post Post #942 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:08 pm

In post 937, clidd wrote:I selfvote and give you hammer, I guess.

Again very funny 'haha you are an epicmafia player', doesn't phase me.

LavarManos · Post Post #943 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:09 pm

In post 938, ben dover123 wrote:This isn't town clidd behavior at all.

Why not?

clidd · Post Post #944 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:09 pm

Wow, you are so smart, Trendall.

I suppose you have already discovered my evil schemes.

ben dover123 · Post Post #945 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:10 pm

Also, I notice that clidd is using a lot of "can we calm down here and listen to me" kind of posts...

LavarManos wrote:
In post 938, ben dover123 wrote:This isn't town clidd behavior at all.
Why not?

Lemme pull up my clidd meta research for you again.

ben dover123 · Post Post #946 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:11 pm

In post 944, clidd wrote:Wow, you are so smart, Trendall.

I suppose you have already discovered my evil schemes.

We don't have time for you to be sarcastic my dude.

Spoiler: clidd meta research

LavarManos · Post Post #947 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:12 pm

I don't see anything about defeatism, and I don't understand why it is scummy in this situation. Both you and Trendall are the loudest voices in the games and also happen to be his biggest opponents. I could see him being exasperated as town here, and I don't think the way he presented his claim is likely to come from scum.

clidd · Post Post #948 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:14 pm

I think it is not possible to make a gambit as mafia without being discovered, unfortunately. I tried to lie about my scumlip about what my role do, but I was unable to obfuscate the truth.

LavarManos · Post Post #949 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 3:15 pm

In post 948, clidd wrote:I tried to lie about my scumlip about what my role do, but I was unable to obfuscate the truth.

Are you saying that you didn't understand your doctor role and that you intentionally tried to cover up your mistakes?
That doesn't seem right.