Newbie 2043: Cherfnul - Game Over

Lunar Martian · Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:37 pm

In post 1023, LoneMarkhor wrote:also Lunar why do you think i am scum?

I buy clidd's reasoning, and you have done nothing that makes me think you're town.

Lunar Martian · Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:38 pm

In post 1021, ben dover123 wrote:
In post 626, Battle Mage wrote:so I'm at like E-2 because apparently I'm not "taking the game seriously" and "going to coast and do nothing" despite being VLA for weekend and then coming back and posting lots of analysis and thoughts last night, with the promise of finishing the 2nd half of my read-through tonight?

either people with unrealistic activity standards or just not reading what I have posted and cruising on an outdated "BM is absent" read.

If I ain't dead, I'll be back tonight.
Although I question BM for the fact that he said "I'll be back tonight" when tonight has already happened. Ah well, maybe "tonight" is relative if BM lives in a different time zone with a different schedule.

BM has repeatedly promised to post and not followed through.

Rockhopper · Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:47 pm

In post 1025, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 1023, LoneMarkhor wrote:also Lunar why do you think i am scum?
I buy clidd's reasoning, and you have done nothing that makes me think you're town.

I don't because of the way the mod designed the first page

Rockhopper · Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:48 pm

It's much easier to miss the point on how a doc can't target himself than the term 'mafia goon'

Rockhopper · Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 7:51 pm

The definition of the term 'confbias' isn't stated here so this can coexist with his confusion about the doc role

LoneMarkhor · Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:00 pm

In post 1024, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 1019, LoneMarkhor wrote:OK I agree we should go with LunarMartian.It was really difficult reading 15 pages took real long
I honestly don't think Clidd is mafia.Though he has been acting scummy.But he is almost confirmed town.So we should go with other scummy people.Most scummy is Lunar martian or at least thats what I think from his ISO.Also sorry Clidd for self protection post.I mean whats scummy in that.Newbie scum might have taken the bait and not targeted you.Right now PRs are as useful as vanilla townies.
UNVOTE: BattleMage
VOTE: LunarMartian
OK, but what makes me scummy? This seems like a very opportunistic vote with little justification.

That was not a opportunistic vote.But I dont think no elim is an option.My POE is like this(Rock,Lunar,lavar,BM,Chumbo).BM is not scummy imo.Its just that he is like VLA.Chumbo is least scummy out of the remaining candidates.Out of the remaining 3,I think at least one is scum for sure.I am just voting one who has a bandwagon on them.Like the town is already split up.We have to agree on someone.

Rockhopper · Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:06 pm

In post 990, clidd wrote:and why specifically mafia goon and not just mafia, or even town?

the question required both a role and an alignment.

Rockhopper · Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:11 pm

Spoiler:

Rockhopper · Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:15 pm

meant to remove Trendall sorry

LoneMarkhor · Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:29 pm

In post 1025, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 1023, LoneMarkhor wrote:also Lunar why do you think i am scum?
I buy clidd's reasoning, and you have done nothing that makes me think you're town.

Sorry I don't know which reasoning you are talking about.His reasoning was against you,wasn't it?

Lunar Martian · Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:56 pm

In post 1030, LoneMarkhor wrote:
In post 1024, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 1019, LoneMarkhor wrote:OK I agree we should go with LunarMartian.It was really difficult reading 15 pages took real long
I honestly don't think Clidd is mafia.Though he has been acting scummy.But he is almost confirmed town.So we should go with other scummy people.Most scummy is Lunar martian or at least thats what I think from his ISO.Also sorry Clidd for self protection post.I mean whats scummy in that.Newbie scum might have taken the bait and not targeted you.Right now PRs are as useful as vanilla townies.
UNVOTE: BattleMage
VOTE: LunarMartian
OK, but what makes me scummy? This seems like a very opportunistic vote with little justification.
That was not a opportunistic vote.But I dont think no elim is an option.My POE is like this(Rock,Lunar,lavar,BM,Chumbo).BM is not scummy imo.Its just that he is like VLA.Chumbo is least scummy out of the remaining candidates.Out of the remaining 3,I think at least one is scum for sure.I am just voting one who has a bandwagon on them.Like the town is already split up.We have to agree on someone.

But you said you think I'm scummy. Why do you think I'm scummy?

Lunar Martian · Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:56 pm

In post 1032, Rockhopper wrote:
Spoiler:
ben dover
LoneMarkhor
Trendall
Battle Mage
LavarManos
Lunar
Chumbo

what does this list mean?

Lunar Martian · Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 8:59 pm

In post 1034, LoneMarkhor wrote:
In post 1025, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 1023, LoneMarkhor wrote:also Lunar why do you think i am scum?
I buy clidd's reasoning, and you have done nothing that makes me think you're town.
Sorry I don't know which reasoning you are talking about.His reasoning was against you,wasn't it?

His reasoning regarding you slipping. It seems odd that you don't know how a doctor works but you know your favorite role is mafia goon. The way you are jumping on the largest bandwagon and stating that you think I'm scummy but then also not being able to provide any reasons for why I'm scummy is, ironically, rather scummy.

Rockhopper · Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:00 pm

In post 1036, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 1032, Rockhopper wrote:
Spoiler:
ben dover
LoneMarkhor
Trendall
Battle Mage
LavarManos
Lunar
Chumbo
what does this list mean?

Towniest to scummiest

Lunar Martian · Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:03 pm

In post 1038, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 1036, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 1032, Rockhopper wrote:
Spoiler:
ben dover
LoneMarkhor
Trendall
Battle Mage
LavarManos
Lunar
Chumbo
what does this list mean?
Towniest to scummiest

Why is Chumbo at the bottom of your list?

Rockhopper · Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:05 pm

In post 1039, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 1038, Rockhopper wrote:
In post 1036, Lunar Martian wrote:
In post 1032, Rockhopper wrote:
Spoiler:
ben dover
LoneMarkhor
Trendall
Battle Mage
LavarManos
Lunar
Chumbo
what does this list mean?
Towniest to scummiest
Why is Chumbo at the bottom of your list?

I'm pretty sure scum joined the wagon on me when it was still hot because of how comfy it was.
Chumbo over Lavar because I expect scum to be a little more cautious about putting someone at E-1.

Chumbo · Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:05 pm

I'm caught up now. Most of the last 15 pages weren't much more than clidd, trendall, and ben arguing about whether clidd was scum or not, I don't know how you guys expect us to keep up.

Clidd: after you already were looking really scummy you've basically performed a hat trick in looking scummy over that period (last 15 pages). You've said something along the lines of "might as well eliminate me, I'm done with this", you talked about self-hammering, and also you used the words I'm scum. You say that what you are doing is pro-town, but it's definitely not. Statistically, it's likely that you are a doc, but I would think you could perform better than this easily. Egging on trendall isn't a good look. I'm not going to vote you because I think you might just be having a terrible game and if we manage to eliminate a roleblocker, it proves you are town.

reads coming once I look at some people's iso's

Rockhopper · Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:07 pm

And you are scum because you selectively sheep clidd's Lone read (which makes little to no sense)while ignoring his read on BM (which makes more sense). I think that's a scum move.

LoneMarkhor · Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:11 pm

Reason: The game has become full of chaos.Cop voting for doc.I trust Ben and Clidd(more).So I decide to join their wagon.

Chumbo · Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:15 pm

In post 1040, Rockhopper wrote:Chumbo over Lavar because I expect scum to be a little more cautious about putting someone at E-1.

In what way is saying I think it's a good idea to announce it worse than just putting someone at E-1 without announcing it. I've never been like "oh i better not vote yet, it would put him at E-1"

By your logic Ben should be a scum read since he always freaks out about it.

Rockhopper · Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:22 pm

In post 1044, Chumbo wrote:
In post 1040, Rockhopper wrote:Chumbo over Lavar because I expect scum to be a little more cautious about putting someone at E-1.
In what way is saying I think it's a good idea to announce it worse than just putting someone at E-1 without announcing it. I've never been like "oh i better not vote yet, it would put him at E-1"

By your logic Ben should be a scum read since he always freaks out about it.

Being cautious about it doesn't make someone scum.
Putting someone at E-1 without announcing it seems too scummy to be scum. I don't expect scum!Lavar to do that since it only ruins the way people perceive his position and scum don't want that.

Chumbo · Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:27 pm

In post 1019, LoneMarkhor wrote:OK I agree we should go with LunarMartian.It was really difficult reading 15 pages took real long
I honestly don't think Clidd is mafia.Though he has been acting scummy.But he is almost confirmed town.So we should go with other scummy people.Most scummy is Lunar martian or at least thats what I think from his ISO.Also sorry Clidd for self protection post.I mean whats scummy in that.Newbie scum might have taken the bait and not targeted you.Right now PRs are as useful as vanilla townies.
UNVOTE: BattleMage
VOTE: LunarMartian

Why do you think is scummy about LunarMartian's ISO?
Hopefully you answer this before I post my reads

Rockhopper · Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:27 pm

Not figuring out that that is not bidirectional is probably a result of a cognitive load. It sounds like you prioritized your own survival and missed something basic.

Rockhopper · Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:29 pm

{Chumbo, Lunar} is my gun to head solve.
I'd be willing to vote for Lavar too if those don't work out.

Chumbo · Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Tue Dec 08, 2020 9:32 pm

In post 1045, Rockhopper wrote:Being cautious about it doesn't make someone scum.
Putting someone at E-1 without announcing it seems too scummy to be scum. I don't expect scum!Lavar to do that since it only ruins the way people perceive his position and scum don't want that.

If you put someone at E-1 without announcing it, later you could just be like "oh, I didn't realize that was E-1". Which is why I disagree with you, I think scum would be more than willing to do this because if the next person doesn't pay attention to it they hammer.