PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Polar Bear Express]

did you just defend battle mage for softing PR but not even read the arguements for why he was being pushed?

activity levels low. not consistent. lied about role.
did I get it all right?

-nronor

[Battle Mage]

noraa, i didnt soft PR. I think ppl just read that into something i said, which 100% was not intended. apparently it's because i said I'd want to claim if i got to -1? that doesn't imply I'm a PR.

hilariously, even mastina noted "BM doesn't normally soft PR like that". Because I didn't soft PR. People just drew that conclusion for themselves. My crumbs are a bit more obvious than that (you know this)

but it doesn't matter anyway. I'm at E-2, there's clearly a declared majority for my elim regardless of what you think.

Just waiting on Pooky with the all-important verdict.

[Dunnstral]

Pooky, do you know the roles in the setup but not who has what role? If so, would it be useful for me to tell you my role (in a way nobody else would possibly know)?

What would be the point of going out of your way to soft vt?

[Battle Mage]

did you just defend battle mage for softing PR but not even read the arguements for why he was being pushed?

activity levels low. not consistent. lied about role.
did I get it all right?

-nronor

im the 4th highest poster in a game with 4 hydras
i am a human being behind a computer screen who sometimes has things other than mafia to do - hence posting a bit less on some weekends
I didn't lie about my role

[mastina]

odd to see Creature popping up again to complain about gamestate when they haven't been doing much themselves.

Funny, that seems to perfectly capture you complaining about the gamestate of you being wagoned when you haven't done much yourself.

[Polar Bear Express]

My heart strings are getting pulled so hard by nearly every post BM makes. I don't know what to make of it.

Is this what pooky felt in Death Curse?

It's day 1 and I'm feeling like I just witnessed a murder of a small child or something.

I just ... he's so desperate.

-medunnonornor

[Battle Mage]

Pooky, do you know the roles in the setup but not who has what role? If so, would it be useful for me to tell you my role (in a way nobody else would possibly know)?

What would be the point of going out of your way to soft vt?

as you saw, i had a clever idea to crumb my role so Pooky would figure it out but nobody else would - giving townstump more info on setup is good. it wasn't actually that clever in practice, but i tried. im not actually convinced he read any of it. *shrug*

[Battle Mage]

odd to see Creature popping up again to complain about gamestate when they haven't been doing much themselves.

Funny, that seems to perfectly capture you complaining about the gamestate of you being wagoned when you haven't done much yourself.

mastina, you might have an issue with me because i tell you the truth about your arguments, but there's no need to be a jerk. I've done probably more than anybody in the 2 days i've actually been here. it probably doesn't actually count for much, but no lack of effort on my part.

[Double the Trouble]

I think town!BM would be way less selfish and AtE’ish if town here. Basically he’s quit pushing his scumreads in favour of pushing this sob story and escape the elimination.
That’s my impression here.

- Norwee

[Battle Mage]

My heart strings are getting pulled so hard by nearly every post BM makes. I don't know what to make of it.

Is this what pooky felt in Death Curse?

It's day 1 and I'm feeling like I just witnessed a murder of a small child or something.

I just ... he's so desperate.

-medunnonornor

i'm actually legit upset that an old friend is about to elim me Day 1 after i put in a fuck tonne of effort in a short space of time, and did my absolute best, probably talking more sense than i do in most of my games.

but whatever, it's just a game i guess.

[Polar Bear Express]

noraa, i didnt soft PR. I think ppl just read that into something i said, which 100% was not intended. apparently it's because i said I'd want to claim if i got to -1? that doesn't imply I'm a PR.

hilariously, even mastina noted "BM doesn't normally soft PR like that". Because I didn't soft PR. People just drew that conclusion for themselves. My crumbs are a bit more obvious than that (you know this)

but it doesn't matter anyway. I'm at E-2, there's clearly a declared majority for my elim regardless of what you think.

Just waiting on Pooky with the all-important verdict.

my eyes see this and go hmm
my heart sees this and wants to believe
I've been feeling so trapped regarding BM because I don't belong on BM's wagon but I also don't belong off. I don't know where I stand ya know?

Some moments I'm thinking I want to defend BM bc he just has to be town
Some moments I'm thinking I should vote BM bc he just has to be scum

I am lost

-nornor

[Double the Trouble]

noraa, i didnt soft PR. I think ppl just read that into something i said, which 100% was not intended. apparently it's because i said I'd want to claim if i got to -1? that doesn't imply I'm a PR.

hilariously, even mastina noted "BM doesn't normally soft PR like that". Because I didn't soft PR. People just drew that conclusion for themselves. My crumbs are a bit more obvious than that (you know this)

but it doesn't matter anyway. I'm at E-2, there's clearly a declared majority for my elim regardless of what you think.

Just waiting on Pooky with the all-important verdict.

my eyes see this and go hmm
my heart sees this and wants to believe
I've been feeling so trapped regarding BM because I don't belong on BM's wagon but I also don't belong off. I don't know where I stand ya know?

Some moments I'm thinking I want to defend BM bc he just has to be town
Some moments I'm thinking I should vote BM bc he just has to be scum

I am lost

-nornor

You feel like an actor more than a player tbh

[Battle Mage]

I think town!BM would be way less selfish and AtE’ish if town here. Basically he’s quit pushing his scumreads in favour of pushing this sob story and escape the elimination.
That’s my impression here.

- Norwee

lol shocking take norwee! you really surprise me....

funny enough, my scumreads don't really matter atm - it's literally a question of whether Pooky decides to elim me or save my ass.

it's not selfish for me to try and avoid a mis-elim - it's an inherent part of my wincon.

[Polar Bear Express]

Pooky, do you know the roles in the setup but not who has what role? If so, would it be useful for me to tell you my role (in a way nobody else would possibly know)?

What would be the point of going out of your way to soft vt?

as you saw, i had a clever idea to crumb my role so Pooky would figure it out but nobody else would - giving townstump more info on setup is good. it wasn't actually that clever in practice, but i tried. im not actually convinced he read any of it. *shrug*

show me the crumbs I'd like to see them.

-nornor

[Double the Trouble]

Battle Mage: "Oh look at how much work i’ve put into my posts! But now those dastardly scum has me cornered! Nobody has done more than me! Waa Waa!"

- Norwee

[Battle Mage]

noraa, i didnt soft PR. I think ppl just read that into something i said, which 100% was not intended. apparently it's because i said I'd want to claim if i got to -1? that doesn't imply I'm a PR.

hilariously, even mastina noted "BM doesn't normally soft PR like that". Because I didn't soft PR. People just drew that conclusion for themselves. My crumbs are a bit more obvious than that (you know this)

but it doesn't matter anyway. I'm at E-2, there's clearly a declared majority for my elim regardless of what you think.

Just waiting on Pooky with the all-important verdict.

my eyes see this and go hmm
my heart sees this and wants to believe
I've been feeling so trapped regarding BM because I don't belong on BM's wagon but I also don't belong off. I don't know where I stand ya know?

Some moments I'm thinking I want to defend BM bc he just has to be town
Some moments I'm thinking I should vote BM bc he just has to be scum

I am lost

-nornor

yeah you dont need to vote me here - i'm at E-2, and Pooky said to wait at E-2 until he makes the decision. If he gives the green light, you can burn me.

[Polar Bear Express]

You feel like an actor more than a player tbh

I'm feeling extremely conflicted rn.

-nornor

[Battle Mage]

Battle Mage: "Oh look at how much work i’ve put into my posts! But now those dastardly scum has me cornered! Nobody has done more than me! Waa Waa!"

- Norwee

thanks dude, you're making me feel much better

[Double the Trouble]

You feel like an actor more than a player tbh

I'm feeling extremely conflicted rn.

-nornor

I can clearly see thats what you want me to believe

[Polar Bear Express]

You feel like an actor more than a player tbh

I'm feeling extremely conflicted rn.

-nornor

I can clearly see thats what you want me to believe

You think I'm not feeling conflicted.

What am I feeling rn then?

-nornor

[mastina]

Also mastina is very convincing tbh its quite unusual.

I've been quite convincing for the last two years or so!

And yet, people never cease to be surprised that I'm making reasonable and rational points in my cases.

this is my 3rd game with mastina this year. in all 3 games, she decided i was scum at the beginning and did little else other than tunnel me for the duration. In 1 game I was scum, in the other 2 town (incl. this one). I don't consider her read on me to be genuine, it's just what mastina does.

Just for the record.

Battle Mage is using the exact same style of discrediting me that Flavor Leaf uses.

I'd love to call that proof that BM is one of FL's chosen scum, but sadly, I am forced to admit that BM's style of discrediting me is almost assuredly uninfluenced by FL in that if BM were scum trying to discredit me in a different game lacking a scum-FL he'd be no different.

I do find it fascinating tho. That both BM and FL have the exact same style of trying to discredit me when they're scum. Is probably among the reasons FL picked Battle Mage, if I had to guess; FL sees BM as a scum player whose style resonates with his own.

[Double the Trouble]

You feel like an actor more than a player tbh

I'm feeling extremely conflicted rn.

-nornor

I can clearly see thats what you want me to believe

You think I'm not feeling conflicted.

What am I feeling rn then?

-nornor

i mean it just feels like performance

[Battle Mage]

My heart empathizes with BM too.

But unfortunately he is mafia. And though he is very good at evoking sympathy, i still stand by my reasoning for why he is scum as correct.

- Norwee

if i'm wrong about you and you're actually town...i hope to God you do more tomorrow than just be a relentless cheerleader for a mis-elim.

[Battle Mage]

maybe mastina and DT are both scum. i'm struggling to see why 2 town players are pushing so hard for me to be elimmed as i sit precariously as E-2 when there's like...nothing to gain from doing so?

the chips are all in, the decision is with Pooky. But I feel like there is an agenda to get me flipped before he makes that call...just in case he makes a big play.

[Polar Bear Express]

i mean it just feels like performance

great explanation. come back when you don't have a shit reason to discredit my opinions.

-nornor