PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Battle Mage]

well it's nearly 2:30am, no sign of Pooky for some realtime chat, so I'm gonna catch some z's.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

have a good night BM

<3

[Battle Mage]

im still here, you gonna talk to me now?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

whats up homie

who else is on flavor flav's team?

[Battle Mage]

dude im fking town.

you know this! use your read on me, and ignore your presumably shitty masons.

[MURDERCAT]

Savage

[mastina]

And you're assuming her reads are all off the mark, just like that game as well

While my reads were far from perfect that game (and nobody that game can claim to have done otherwise themselves as literally nobody had absolutely perfect reads), they were still pretty damn good? I lead the D1 elimination on scum, critically had very vital townreads on key town players that were otherwise being scumread, and identified two of the four remaining scum as well.

I had two scum that I misread, and three town that I misread. That's it. I had accurate reads on 15/20 slots that game that I had a need to read. 15/20 correct reads translates into 4/5 translates into 80% read accuracy. Given 5/23 players were scum which is a 21% scum ratio, that's not bad for being informed of the alignment of two slots in the game. (If you included them, it'd be 17/22, a 77% accuracy rate, still decent.)

Where is the idea that my reads were all off the mark that game coming from?

i also hilariously enough am not reading mastina's posts on why you're a liar much cause I think she suffers from some kind of bias as well

The idea that I have bias in my reads is a scum narrative. (It is an argument almost exclusively made by scum. Almost. FL has made it as town and BM is the same sort of player as FL so him making that argument isn't something inherently in of itself scum-indicative from him. Butstill, the argument that I have bias towards specific players is one frequently made in an attempt to discredit my, usually quite valid, reasons for being suspicious of the slot.)

My reads are always based off of the evidence in the current game, supported by the evidence from past games that I am familiar with.

While it is possible that the reads I generate in that method are wrong (and in fact frequently are as my read accuracy is not much higher than random overall), they are not, inherently, biased.

[Battle Mage]

do you seriously believe i'm scum here? you know my scum meta is lurking like hell and low-efforting.

you can also see i've been a lone warrior for the Pooky-cause so far here.

so why am i even up for getting elimmed?

[Battle Mage]

i cant believe it Pooks. Pouring my heart and soul out to you here.

Can't you see my zealous and earnest towniness oozing out?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

well you did lurk pretty hard bro

you also care way too much man - i think town!bm doesnt care nearly as much

also like flava flav thinks you're super good

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

real talk man

lets pour out a few fingers of whiskey and talk this out man to man

[Polar Bear Express]

I'm willing to go on BM after pooky finishes the whole exit interview thingie.
BM's right tho. I gotta get the hammer to keep the tradition going
If BM flips green, I take zero responsibility whatsoever. Don't care what happens. I'm not claiming even the slightest bit of responsibility.
If BM flips red, U-U I wants to take a little bit of ze credit :3 and also I'm going 200 mph after Murder. There is no reason to have his terrible stance around the BM wagon.

-nornor

is that coz u actually think im scum? i don't think you get any credit if you hammer me whilst actually thinking i would flip red.

i kinda feel like the exit interview might not even be a thing. and yeah, doesnt make sense for Pooky to ask me to claim if he wasn't minded to elim me. No idea why he would want to elim me. Maybe he has some bad masons who are giving him bad reads.

I generally think hammering scums is the highest level of towncred possible but in this situation it isn't cuz I have been actively fighting against your lim in the thread.

I think I'm mostly doing it bc ur AtE is really scaring me and even if we wait like a week, I'm still gonna remember this and be worried about it. Also Gloria doesn't TR you.

-nornor

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if its too late for you we can do this tomm

we got time but its looking like you gotta walk today

fucking gonna kill me if you're town here bro

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nora we're having a moment together here

chill

me and BM been drinking together for a decade

i still cant read him for shit but we always have a good time

[Polar Bear Express]

real talk man

lets pour out a few fingers of whiskey and talk this out man to man

*looks at the whiskey*
*looks at pooky*

-nornor

[Battle Mage]

well you did lurk pretty hard bro

you also care way too much man - i think town!bm doesnt care nearly as much

also like flava flav thinks you're super good

dude i was spending the weekend with my daughter and didn't have time to post during the day. I posted in my high priority games (a minority of total games) during that 2 day period. all of this is literally evident if you look.

i care because i hate the idea of being miselimmed, i especially hate the idea of being miselimmed day 1, and i especially especially hate the idea of being mis-elimmed on the orders of my mate. I'm also trying hard because tbh, i was quite chuffed to get into this game and wanted to give a good account of myself. Loyal to the cause.

FL does think I'm good, but I guess maybe I got vetoed or he thought it was too predictable, I dunno.

[Battle Mage]

if its too late for you we can do this tomm

we got time but its looking like you gotta walk today

fucking gonna kill me if you're town here bro

dude that's why im giving you everything i got to try and convince you im town. but you gotta open your heart and see it maybe, if the head ain't doing it.

[Battle Mage]

nora we're having a moment together here

chill

me and BM been drinking together for a decade

i still cant read him for shit but we always have a good time

man i think you can read me. but clearly the town consensus ain't helping you. So you need to trust your own gut. You should have a slim edge in this game for the players you know, folks like me and Ydrasse. I have seen you use your thinking cap lots with Ydrasse in this game - do it with me too.

[Battle Mage]

real talk man

lets pour out a few fingers of whiskey and talk this out man to man

real talk man, i ain't here to fuck you. i'm trying my best to help Team Pooky, and i'm going above and beyond because i'd like us both to win together.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

real talk

you gotta be drunk for this

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i ain't here to fuck you.

this feels real man

but you aint been drinking

im at least 9 drinks ahead of you by now

you got work in the morrow?

[Battle Mage]

i invested like 10 hours or some shit in the last couple days in this game to try and help you make the right call here. if i'm scum, i srsly don't think i bother because i'm eating it at some point anyway based on the town consensus.

the lack of any urgency around wagons/voting at this point, is consistent with games where a town wagon is teetering on the edge.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

dude i was spending the weekend with my daughter

that sounds nice

what did you do with her? treasure that girl while she's still your little girl cuz aint too long before she's gone and you will miss her so much

[mastina]

lol i wasnt reading (see: VLA) and thought i might be nearly getting elimmed as I had seen a few votes (presumably when using the search function). i'm not sure what's weird about it - it was just wrong.

Alternatively: the scum picked up and emphasized the multiple slots that stated BM suspicion regardless of their votes and BM took this to mean that he was under more pressure than he was, especially if the slots suspicious of him at the time were particularly strong talking points in the scum PT.

Why would Battle Mage think he was close to being eliminated otherwise? As he himself said--the votes showed that belief to be wrong so if he used the search function, it'd show that, at the time, he was under no real risk.

Far more likely is that he was informed by his scumbuddies that he was under threat, and thought it worse than it was off of listening to them.

All Mastina's other reads are based on a presumption of BM-scum, whereby she townreads those who attack me, and scumreads those who don't.

False, literally none of my reads are on the assumption of Battle Mage being scum. If anything it'd be the opposite; I'm ignoring evidence which may change my read on slots if I were to listen to it in relationship to BM.

BM sounds extremely sincere here.

He labelled the post AtE and for good reason--because it is an appeal to emotions that is his only defense given that he is otherwise pretty clearly scum.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

they grow up too fast BM

too fast