PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Polar Bear Express]

Yeah ok. Murder scum makes BM scum probabilities go much higher.

Those interactions look nasty.

-nornor

[Double the Trouble]

Tbh i would not have switched wagon to Solstice under any circumstance here. But Alisae already took the initiative so i'll just roll with it for reactions sake.

- Norwee

[Double the Trouble]

In my view Solstice is just null/light town right now. But Alisae said they really need a better read on them.

- Norwee

[Netflix and Chill]

Kind of how I feel about Notty taking control of the vote back away from me. Lol.

[Solstice]

[Hectic's ability to read me has degraded it seems. Probably as a result of my playstyle doing stuff. that's alright, because he used to have a 100% success rate and it was a little annoying]

[I still think Hectic is town because there isn't a great incentive to get rid of me as scum, really]

Solstice (6): Dunnstral, pichu, Double the Trouble, Not Known 15, Netflix and Chill, Spiffeh

[I think Dunnstral is playing really good if scum, hectic is probably town, dont know NK15, don't know N&C although I thought they did something that got townreads earlier but i wasnt there to see it, and Spiffeh is at least consistent with his earlier read]

oh god also happy birthday Morning!!!!
you're amazing and i love you regardless of your alignment <3

Happy Birthday Tweetie!!!!

I love you no matter what. <3

[ty guis]

~Morning

[Polar Bear Express]

I think I'm pretty null on solstice. If I had to say which way I leaned, it'd be a very smol TL probs.

-nornor

[Solstice]

Yes, something like that. Everything there has a qualifier that tones it down. "I think" "ordeal scummy" "Pretty bad" "Could be scum in spite of"...
and yes, thats scummy.

[you find my vocabulary scummy for being too uncertain, wishy-washy. I can see why that could be a general tell but that is not scummy for me]

i find this post off as well but struggling to explain why
i think it comes down to mostly being gut
the norwee take is too hand sanitizer cleany though
the take on BM himself also has a scummy line
the "If i were confident in a townread i'd oppose the wagon but I am fine with it at the moment."
you know what i mean????
someone help me articulate
it's like... she's making sure to VERY clearly outline her stance in a way where she's overdoing it and it comes off as unnatural
something like that

[Why are you scumreading me for something I do constantly]

[Earlier when i mentioned my prediction for the BM wagon, i was likening it to the D1 Auro wagon in Mafia of Revelations. I thought the reasoning was kinda bad, but i could see Auro being scum in spite of it and he remained in my PoE all day. He did emotional stuff end of day that made me switch to TR, he died, and flipped scum]

reads off but hard to articulate why
kind of like she's trying to make it read like stream of consciousness but it doesn't sit quite right

@Morning: why did you abandon the formal/structured posting style that you started this game with?

[i haven't done anything with my posting style this game. You're reading into something that isn't there. I could see perhaps me being in a different mood earlier or something, but there was no intentional posting style change]

[It's also possible I used a particular different voice from the one i usually use on this account, but if i did, that was unintentional]

I'm not entirely sure if dropping pressure on Battle Mage is the most amazing idea but I'm interested in seeing where this goes
VOTE: Solstice

[it might go to me getting progressively more and more frustrated i'm being scumread for posting style -- but it also might be good for reading, idk]

~Morning

[Polar Bear Express]

so the solve is Murder/BM/_____ /_____

Dunno if I still SR Dunn. Haven't seen him around much.

Good that Bell is back so I can actually sort there.

Spiffeh wanting to see reactions feels a slight bit scummy to me cuz it could be seen as role fishing but Murder's whole thing with BM also felt like that.

Ugh maybe its Murder/ ___/_____/____

*sigh*

Ircher, me is liking more and more. Same with Toog.

It kinda bad. I'm basically TRing almost everyone :/

-nornor

[Solstice]

I guarantee you I’ll catch at least one scum based off of the D2 reactions to the D1 elimination and the NK.

[ill hold you to it!]

[ (I see my partners point that DEB is generally low on lists but receives no pressure, and that is a fair one -- but if people approach those who go "D1 is useless" like I do, then voting him wouldn't do much anyway. so i think he would likely fail to receive pressure as either alignment. Maybe in a game with a really stagnant D1 he gets considered, but not one like this) ]

VOTE: Ircher

this random tangent on DEB i don't like
it's the kind of thing it feels like Morning is using to fill out her word count

[i included that because I was switching my partners' vote and i wanted to explain what i thought about it so i wasn't just undoing her actions...]

[You of all people should realize why i feel obligated to do that, shouldn't you?]

~Morning

[Polar Bear Express]

Double is weird. I really like the Norwee half and that half's looking p decent in terms of towniness but Alisae on the other hand,

Gloria also liked one head more than the other but I can't remember which one.

-nornor

[MURDERCAT]

Noraa we talked about this you can't just quote my iso you have to give reasons why it's scummy

[Solstice]

[Anyway I really think Dunn is town]

[Murder probably isn't scum Noraa, although I would have to see more. That post you made regarding BM and Double was legitimately odd, and if you're scumreading him for that, i would ask that you explain why scum!Murder feels obligated to do that rather than town!Murder, exactly. I guess Murder could still be scum because one gut-take agree could be a coincidence, but i lean against that]

[With regards to BM.. i take it he's been very emotional or otherwise heart-to-heart and it's practically guaranteed I would come off with a townread on him if I read it. Norwe argues that BM simply wants to not be eliminated regardless of alignment. Sigh, I don't know, BM is the type of player who I'd expect to go to great lengths to not be eliminated, yes. He actually ended up claiming VT i believe which is weird considering he said he was going to point out a crumb earlier. but that's such a BM move. Ill figure it out eventually. Or maybe i wont since BM might be the only choice I'm allowed to have versus myself]

[do

none

of you league players play assassins? i haven't seen a single mention of one. that is all i have to say abt that stretch]

~Morning

[Polar Bear Express]

Murder, if this is ur scum buddy, u should be derailing rn cuz ur gonna look shit tomorrow if BM flips red.

?

Murder hasn't ever voted BM but has always stated that BM was scummy.

-nornor

Look at this progression.

BM is town
to
emphasis on BM is pr
to
slight shad
to
ask for reads
to
BM is scummier than Ircher(with no vote on BM)
to
BM, I think Noraa is scummier

[Polar Bear Express]

Keep saying he's gonna explain his SR on me. Every time he's asked, he then changes it to "I'll only say it if pooky asks"
Then it was Gloria is town but Noraa is not
Then it was "I'll only say if if pooky asks cuz y'all know Noraa gonna AtE if I post it"

actually tho.
WTF
WTF
WTF
WTF
WTF

[Polar Bear Express]

Murder are you even reading the game?

I said why. You either talk to me about my reasons or u don't talk about it cuz asking me to repeat shit doesn't help anyone.

-nronor

[Netflix and Chill]

He's obviously not going to explain his read on you if he thinks it's going to be a distraction to the leading wagons.

[MURDERCAT]

I am reading your posts and giving them about as much thought as I am giving FLs.
Thanks for the content though, this is exactly what I was hoping for.

[Solstice]

do you seriously believe i'm scum here? you know my scum meta is lurking like hell and low-efforting.

you can also see i've been a lone warrior for the Pooky-cause so far here.

so why am i even up for getting elimmed?

[since when is that true? You were very active in the launch normal mini]

well you did lurk pretty hard bro

you also care way too much man - i think town!bm doesnt care nearly as much

also like flava flav thinks you're super good

[I don't know if i really agree town!BM would care less, but i do think scum!BM would care a lot. and i would agree BM is a good pick by FL]

[Mastina probably town regardless of BM's alignment, unless she's capable of going this tryhard as scum and also is okay with suffering the consequences of presumably a hard tunnel on BM. what i mean is i don't think she'd act this confident on BM as scum -- although that is a guess]

~Morning

[MURDERCAT]

Does FL ever setup a bus between mastina and BM though? And have BM do all the AtE to make it look real good? I was interested in that theory.

[Solstice]

[i would find that much more plausible than mastina!scum/BM!town, yeah]

~Morning

[MURDERCAT]

Agreed

[Polar Bear Express]

He's obviously not going to explain his read on you if he thinks it's going to be a distraction to the leading wagons.

It's not like he's on any of the leading wagons anyways. Why's he care?

I am reading your posts and giving them about as much thought as I am giving FLs.
Thanks for the content though, this is exactly what I was hoping for.

This is a really shitty mindset to have but whatever.

-nornor

[MURDERCAT]

This is a really shitty mindset to have but whatever.

perspective slip

[Netflix and Chill]

It's not like he's on any of the leading wagons anyways. Why's he care?

It's generally not a good idea to split focus between multiple scumreads because then you end up with multiple smaller wagons instead of one large one on the slot you're trying to eliminate.

So if he already thinks one of the leading wagons is on scum, then explaining a scumread elsewhere risks derailing the leading wagon.

[Polar Bear Express]

This is a really shitty mindset to have but whatever.

perspective slip

no.