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[innocentvillager]

Vote count 1.05

with 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-12-14 10:06:13).

elimination

1. Titus [0]:

2. Andresvmb [2]:

geraintm#33, JohnnyFarrar#232

3. unwnd [1]:

shellyc#292

4. Flavor Leaf [4]:

unwnd#339, Dunnstral#343, Titus#503, Not_Mafia#509

5. Hank Spankems [0]:

6. shellyc [0]:

7. PlusJOYED [0]:

8. Not_Mafia [2]:

Hank Spankems#69, PlusJOYED#365

9. JohnnyFarrar [0]:

10. geraintm [0]:

11. TheFuzzyLogic99 [0]:

12. Dunnstral [3]:

Flavor Leaf#381, Andresvmb#403, nopointinactingup#548

13. nopointinactingup [0]:

no elimination [0]:

Not Voting [1]:

TheFuzzyLogic99

mod notes

~ prodding JohnnyFarrar

Spoiler: vote log

Day 1 vote log

Post 5: Andresvmb votes shellyc
Post 6: Dunnstral votes geraintm
Post 7: shellyc votes Andresvmb
Post 10: PlusJOYED votes shellyc
Post 11: Dunnstral votes unvote
Post 13: unwnd votes TheFuzzyLogic99
Post 19: Not_Mafia votes Not_Mafia
Post 23: nopointinactingup votes Not_Mafia
Post 26: Titus votes nopointinactingup
Post 33: geraintm votes Andresvmb
Post 38: Flavor Leaf votes Not_Mafia
Post 69: Hank Spankems votes Not_Mafia
Post 75: shellyc votes unvote
Post 89: shellyc votes JohnnyFarrar
Post 94: nopointinactingup votes Dunnstral
Post 108: Flavor Leaf votes Dunnstral
Post 149: unwnd votes nopointinactingup
Post 157: Not_Mafia votes nopointinactingup
Post 172: Titus votes shellyc
Post 183: Andresvmb votes unvote
Post 185: shellyc votes Flavor Leaf
Post 186: Flavor Leaf votes Flavor Leaf
Post 228: Flavor Leaf votes unvote
Post 229: JohnnyFarrar votes Flavor Leaf
Post 232: JohnnyFarrar votes Andresvmb
Post 249: Andresvmb votes unwnd
Post 291: shellyc votes unvote
Post 292: shellyc votes unwnd
Post 293: nopointinactingup votes Flavor Leaf
Post 315: Flavor Leaf votes nopointinactingup
Post 339: unwnd votes Flavor Leaf
Post 343: Dunnstral votes Flavor Leaf
Post 359: PlusJOYED votes unvote
Post 365: PlusJOYED votes Not_Mafia
Post 381: Flavor Leaf votes Dunnstral
Post 403: Andresvmb votes Dunnstral
Post 503: Titus votes Flavor Leaf
Post 509: Not_Mafia votes Flavor Leaf
Post 548: nopointinactingup votes Dunnstral

[JohnnyFarrar]

Ope

[JohnnyFarrar]

VOTE: Flavor Leaf

Ultra boring

[JohnnyFarrar]

Dunn, Unwnd, Not Mafia, and Nopoint all have wagons that aren’t able to gain momentum.

There is scum in there.

Lez do this

VOTE: nopoint

[Flavor Leaf]

People understand why Hank and I get along, right?

Moving Hank up to town. I think he’s super genuine.

I don’t think others will see him as super genuine, but I have another game of familiarity with him.

Never seen him scum, but if he is scum, I wanna see it, haha

[JohnnyFarrar]

I think we need to stop townreading flavor for mysterious 'he wouldn't play like this' reasons and hold him to a higher standard, that means elimming him when his play is bad/scummy

I don't trust anyone's read on him that has him as town at this point in time

So, this, like...

hat means elimming him when his play is

Good start to a thought

scummy

And I agree that this should finish the thought

bad

But this part? No no.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Unless you mean like morally bad but I don't think that's what you mean

[JohnnyFarrar]

Actually the more I think about it, the more I think Shelly is scum. I’ve had this weird feeling since the beginning of the game that her posts are commentary-ish and pupet-mastering and then her post #477 was just downright manipulative. Shelly knows johnny’s only game with me is when I’m scum so she’s letting Johny think about me in that game. If you’re reading two games from someone you’re bound to find similarities regardless of alignment and her under the table push will cause town to scum-read one another. Scum ultimately benefits from having paranoid town

This makes sense to me dang

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm back.

Let's actually do this
VOTE: not maf

And if you don't wanna, tell me why not.

[Not_Mafia]

I have the best avatar

[Dunnstral]

I think we need to stop townreading flavor for mysterious 'he wouldn't play like this' reasons and hold him to a higher standard, that means elimming him when his play is bad/scummy

I don't trust anyone's read on him that has him as town at this point in time

I don’t understand this post at all. Where has anyone uttered a TR of Flavor based on the fact that he wouldn’t “play this way as Scum”? Can you point me to it? Because off the top of my head, I don’t recall anyone really making that argument.

What specifically about his play has been Scummy to you? Outside of him obviously SR’ing you, how do you think his approach is not from a Town POV?

I thought most players who townread him were thinking along those lines?

He's scummy because he's acting in a weird/awkward way and is responding to pressure in a scummy way

[Dunnstral]

I'm back.

Let's actually do this
VOTE: not maf

And if you don't wanna, tell me why not.

We should get flavor or nopoint today, both have been scummy

[shellyc]

VOTE: nopoint

[JohnnyFarrar]

I think we need to stop townreading flavor for mysterious 'he wouldn't play like this' reasons and hold him to a higher standard, that means elimming him when his play is bad/scummy

I don't trust anyone's read on him that has him as town at this point in time

I don’t understand this post at all. Where has anyone uttered a TR of Flavor based on the fact that he wouldn’t “play this way as Scum”? Can you point me to it? Because off the top of my head, I don’t recall anyone really making that argument.

What specifically about his play has been Scummy to you? Outside of him obviously SR’ing you, how do you think his approach is not from a Town POV?

I thought most players who townread him were thinking along those lines?

He's scummy because he's acting in a weird/awkward way and is responding to pressure in a scummy way

I'm weird and awkward, how is he scummy?

[Titus]

Farrar gets town points for highlighting 585 says nothing useful.

Shelly, and reason you're naked voting a vanity wagon?

[geraintm]

VOTE: nopoint

I'm back.

Let's actually do this
VOTE: not maf

And if you don't wanna, tell me why not.

i like Nopointactingup post 548, I aint going to be voting there at all today.
the two votes I have quotes above just look meh at the moment, but likely more important later in the game and their...direction is probably going to be telling for someone.

[PlusJOYED]

I'm back.

Let's actually do this
VOTE: not maf

And if you don't wanna, tell me why not.

interesting

[PlusJOYED]

anyone else wanna join the notmafia wagon?

it won't go anywhere, they have Protection from Day 1

why? did I miss a mechanical?

[Andresvmb]

I’ll comment later tonight on what’s been posted since I was last here.

In general though, I’m not particularly hopeful that the result today will be that we hit Scum to be totally honest. There’s too many disinterested naked votes and not enough discussion.

[innocentvillager]

prodding unwnd and nopointinactingup

[unwnd]

I agree with anders. I actually think a flashwagon on someone lesser active could be an interesting angle to hit.

[unwnd]

VOTE: Hank Spankems

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: unwnd

[geraintm]

anyone else wanna join the notmafia wagon?

it won't go anywhere, they have Protection from Day 1

why? did I miss a mechanical?

Oh, its just a site wide thing where it is impossible to kill not mafia day 1.
Today is going to end in a town lynch. No lynch is better

[nopointinactingup]

VOTE: Shelly

will come back for a deeper look