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[Iconeum]

DV claimed PR?

i might have explained that badly

->i mean, why would scum pile onto a wagon, leading away from a claimed pr (tracker/motion detecter, so a fairly strong one at that), to flip a claimed VT?

[Iconeum]

i could see scum dividing themselves among t/t wagons, but all 3 in this scenario?

that's a stretch to say the least

[Gamma Emerald]

It’s driving a town vs. town feud I’m figuring
By pushing DV scum got those on ABR to double down on that. Once ABR flipped the next step was to use the snapback to get DV miselimmed.

[Dunnstral]

Once ABR flipped the next step was to use the snapback to get DV miselimmed.

Is this theoretical, or are you saying this is what is happening?

I think DV was already in a position where they were likely to be flipped next

[DeasVail]

Does anyone have strong feelings that Ico is town? Ico's always given me a town feel here and seems to be one of the more townread slots throughout but going with Ico town probably ends up leaving me with a Gamma/MWB/Dunn scumteam which doesn't quite

FEEL

right.

[Iconeum]

nothing feels completely right with that ABR townflip

ngl, none of my solves give me a 'this is it' feeling

[Iconeum]

but sure, shade me all you want

[Iconeum]

Does anyone have strong feelings that Ico is town? Ico's always given me a town feel here and seems to be one of the more townread slots throughout but going with Ico town probably ends up leaving me with a Gamma/MWB/Dunn scumteam which doesn't quite

FEEL

right.

This reads like ur shopping for a flip, or like

testing the waters where you can push

'hey guys i do townread this ico fella buuuuuuuut…'

[Iconeum]

weekend VLA soon

[petapan]

yo peta IIRC you said that midway is way out of his scumrange here, yet you seem to be pushing them like you scumread them?

i have never expressed that? i've been scumreading him for most of the game. i've seen him now twice as scum and twice as town and feel like this is closer to his scumplay.



i'm partway through rereading, and right now, where i am at is this: i am having a hard time seeing either midway or gamma as town. neither seems to be really scumhunting. i think there's a decent argument to be made that they are teamed. i'm more iffy on who a third possible partner is.

[Iconeum]

i took a shower and my thoughts were that probably one of the remaining PR claims is fake, and there's at least 1 in midway/gamma

this is your response to my question on why you think it’s ico/dv/gamma if dv is scum? It’s not me because I drove the DV wagon so it’s ico, the only remaining PR, and it’s not midway because dv/midway aren’t aligned, and definitely not Dunnstral for the same reason?

I agree with that logic up to mwb, and think we need to re-examine that slot

peta i think you’re town and if you vote town today we are completely screwed, not to stress you out more but we cannot vote a townie today or like ever

because i don't think that kind of last minute flashwagon on dv happens if a teammate is bussing him, otherwise they would just sit on abr

and midway is such a low confidence player as scum that jumping off a wagon on a town pr to vote a teammate would be completely out of character for him

@peta, did i misread this?
doesn't it imply you think mdw 'wouldn't do that as scum'?

[petapan]

i implied that midway wouldn't do that vote ON A TEAMMATE. reading is tech, to borrow an old vi phrase. if the wagons were t/t i could see him doing it

[innocentvillager]

if you think he's self-conscious/low confidence as scum he's more likely to default to what he thinks he would do as town. Sometimes as scum we will do things just because town!us will, and maybe it'll look good even if it is on the surface slightly - for our wincon. I'm shit at scum so my scumgame has to fall back on that a lot because i can't convince myself to do a lot of things i probably wouldn't as town

im just trying to come up with more reasons for you to believe MWB/DV don't have to be not-partners

[Iconeum]

Does anyone have strong feelings that Ico is town? Ico's always given me a town feel here and seems to be one of the more townread slots throughout but going with Ico town probably ends up leaving me with a Gamma/MWB/Dunn scumteam which doesn't quite

FEEL

right.

This reads like ur shopping for a flip, or like

testing the waters where you can push

'hey guys i do townread this ico fella buuuuuuuut…'

thoughts?

[innocentvillager]

maybe it's specifically to throw off me and Albert on the solve at that point in time and later everyone else (like you!), while partners DV and Gamma try to laugh Albert to the miselim. who knows

[innocentvillager]

Does anyone have strong feelings that Ico is town? Ico's always given me a town feel here and seems to be one of the more townread slots throughout but going with Ico town probably ends up leaving me with a Gamma/MWB/Dunn scumteam which doesn't quite

FEEL

right.

This reads like ur shopping for a flip, or like

testing the waters where you can push

'hey guys i do townread this ico fella buuuuuuuut…'

thoughts?

slimy ass wifom just ignore imo

[Iconeum]

i don't think wifom means what you think it means

[innocentvillager]

lol ok fine regardless it feels slimy for the reason you said

in a vacuum it probably can come from town because it seems like it could be a genuine thought? meh

[Iconeum]

you think a genuine town thought is like

'hey guys i townread ico but does anyone scumread ico so i can push there'

ok it's a liberal interpretation but it's how i read that

[Iconeum]

why would you wanna ignore it if you think it's slimey

[innocentvillager]

i think the thought process is:

I'm town!DV, I TR peta and IV reasonably well, I townread Ico on gut/tone/vibe but im less sure on that/want some more reasons to feel good about that read, so I want to see if anyone can bring up some compelling argument to TR him, so I can feel better or worse about my Gamma/Dunn/MWB solve that I'm already feeling meh about

[innocentvillager]

why would you wanna ignore it if you think it's slimey

part of it was joking

it certainly looks slimy especially when you framed it in the way you did where the scum!motivation is very clear

if I didn't think it could be a genuine town thought ever though I'd probably dig into it more

[innocentvillager]

like i already feel like the slot is... likely to be scum so this post didn't feel like it changed my read on him much

[innocentvillager]

i think the thought process is:

I'm town!DV, I TR peta and IV reasonably well, I townread Ico on gut/tone/vibe but im less sure on that/want some more reasons to feel good about that read, so I want to see if anyone can bring up some compelling argument to TR him, so I can feel better or worse about my Gamma/Dunn/MWB solve that I'm already feeling meh about

to expand, I can come up with reasons you are town but I'm still a bit paranoid so I had a similar thought to what it seems DV is expressing. for example, I asked dunnstral why he seemed confident on your being town all day today and even through yesterday, just because i don't feel comfortable completely locking in MWB over you if I had to choose in F3. Granted the way I asked was just plain and simple, more direct (so less posturing about my thoughts/fake thoughts), but that could just a posting style difference as well between me and DeasVail

[innocentvillager]

also, slightly worried this day/game ends before your weekend V/LA is up? lol

only slightly because, well, Albert is ded