Newbie 2043: Cherfnul - Game Over


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Post Post #1275 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2020 5:46 pm

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In post 1268, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Chumbo
Nothing has made me suspicious of Chumbo so far.Are you trying to get him miseliminated?
Most probable scum team is {BM,Rock} imo.
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Post Post #1276 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:06 pm

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In post 1273, LoneMarkhor wrote:Where Lavar makes him suspicious are those posts where both PRs claimed.He was trolling(lurking? or whatever).Also I think Battlemage could be sacrificing himself to keep a distance from Lavar.Or it could be Rock.
That's fair. The way BM is talking doesn't make any interactions really obvious, so we are sort of clueless going into D3.
LoneMarkhor wrote:Where Lavar makes him suspicious are those posts where both PRs claimed.He was trolling(lurking? or whatever).Also I think Battlemage could be sacrificing himself to keep a distance from Lavar.Or it could be Rock.
Both of these possibilities hold value, however Lavar has definitely been more towny.
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In post 1268, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Chumbo
Nothing has made me suspicious of Chumbo so far.Are you trying to get him miseliminated?
Most probable scum team is {BM,Rock} imo.
Yeah, I think so too.
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Post Post #1277 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2020 6:30 pm

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In post 1274, LoneMarkhor wrote:Hey Ben,should we hammer BM Now?
Just chill out for now. I want to hear more from {Lavar, Chumbo, Rock}.
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Post Post #1278 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2020 7:22 pm

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@ben: what is the significance of BM not unvoting clidd? I don't get that part.
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Post Post #1279 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2020 8:19 pm

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But yeah, BM hammering like that screams scum to me. He said nothing about his reads or anything.
Then the conversation today makes it obvious. Saying Lone and Lunar has partner equity, when he just hammered lunar. Him saying we should massclaim (what would be the point). I don't think he's bothered catching up.

I think it's likely that rockhopper is his partner.
Lavar is my second choice, based on BM's vote on him.
clidd is very likely actually a doc, but it's not a certainty and I don't get why BM not removing his vote is significant. I'm pretty sure trendall was the only other person on clidd's wagon at the time and no one else was expressing a desire to eliminate clidd d1 after the claim. Ben voted him for a very short period but I think he was just losing his mind at the time.

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Post Post #1280 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:26 am

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In post 1276, ben dover123 wrote:
In post 1273, LoneMarkhor wrote:Where Lavar makes him suspicious are those posts where both PRs claimed.He was trolling(lurking? or whatever).Also I think Battlemage could be sacrificing himself to keep a distance from Lavar.Or it could be Rock.
That's fair. The way BM is talking doesn't make any interactions really obvious, so we are sort of clueless going into D3.
I've interacted lots today, especially with you and Dr Clidd! I don't think you should read too much into anything I say though - just do your own solves. :cop:
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Post Post #1281 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 2:49 am

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In post 1268, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Chumbo
Rock, you are on more than one player's PoE as scum after BM and it's important that you share what you are thinking.

The current scenario points to your elimination after the red flip of BM, so you need to make a move.
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Post Post #1282 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:07 am

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In post 1273, LoneMarkhor wrote:Where Lavar makes him suspicious are those posts where both PRs claimed.He was trolling(lurking? or whatever).Also I think Battlemage could be sacrificing himself to keep a distance from Lavar.Or it could be Rock.
There were some moments that Lavar commented on the topic that wouldn't make much sense to Scum!Lavar. BM, for example, spent a lot of time avoiding the game, so I don't think his partner would have enough incentive to try to control the pace of game, since me, Ben and Trendal were monopolizing attention.

On the other hand, Lavar's progression during the middle of D1 so far is sparse, since the interactions he had on the topic were short and not very descriptive in the sense that he conveyed what kind of thoughts he was having about the game. It is very easy for him to be adept at coasting and let us focus more on Rock than necessarily on him.

So I imagine that there is a moderate chance of he being scum (which is why he should try to post more), although Rock has more scummy indexes individually.

Regarding the hammer, my guess is that it was to deny a possible reversal in the main wagon (Lunar), since we were trying to debate some other slots in parallel. But it is difficult to know, unless we can read BM's mind.
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Post Post #1283 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:12 am

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In post 1279, Chumbo wrote:But yeah, BM hammering like that screams scum to me. He said nothing about his reads or anything.
Then the conversation today makes it obvious. Saying Lone and Lunar has partner equity, when he just hammered lunar. Him saying we should massclaim (what would be the point). I don't think he's bothered catching up.

I think it's likely that rockhopper is his partner.
Lavar is my second choice, based on BM's vote on him.
clidd is very likely actually a doc, but it's not a certainty and I don't get why BM not removing his vote is significant. I'm pretty sure trendall was the only other person on clidd's wagon at the time and no one else was expressing a desire to eliminate clidd d1 after the claim. Ben voted him for a very short period but I think he was just losing his mind at the time.

Ben and Lone are very town.
I think I understand how you are seeing the game.
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Post Post #1284 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:15 am

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Yeah, Chumbo is very likely town.

It's basically (BM + Rock) or (BM + Lava) at this point.
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Post Post #1285 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:16 am

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Assuming we are all correct on Lone, right?
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Post Post #1286 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:37 am

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In post 1285, clidd wrote:Assuming we are all correct on Lone, right?
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Post Post #1287 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:42 am

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Post Post #1288 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:45 am

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I'm kind of confused about your partner, ngl.

Lavar being afk (I guess?) and Rock refusing to post reasons is not helping.
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Post Post #1289 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:04 am

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In post 1269, ben dover123 wrote:
In post 1268, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Chumbo
Why Chumbo still?
I missed a few pages, nevermind
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Post Post #1290 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:08 am

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VOTE: Battle Mage
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Post Post #1291 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:13 am

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In post 1279, Chumbo wrote:But yeah, BM hammering like that screams scum to me. He said nothing about his reads or anything.
Then the conversation today makes it obvious. Saying Lone and Lunar has partner equity, when he just hammered lunar. Him saying we should massclaim (what would be the point). I don't think he's bothered catching up.

I think it's likely that rockhopper is his partner.
Lavar is my second choice, based on BM's vote on him.
clidd is very likely actually a doc, but it's not a certainty and I don't get why BM not removing his vote is significant. I'm pretty sure trendall was the only other person on clidd's wagon at the time and no one else was expressing a desire to eliminate clidd d1 after the claim. Ben voted him for a very short period but I think he was just losing his mind at the time.

Ben and Lone are very town.
I do not get why this town indicative
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Post Post #1292 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:19 am

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Is that a scumclaim, Rock?
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Post Post #1293 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:20 am

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In post 1290, Rockhopper wrote:VOTE: Battle Mage
I think you know that BM can just selfhammer.

And you fos on Chumbo over Lava doesn't make much sense to me.
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Post Post #1294 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:25 am

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You also said on D1 that Lava and Lunar were your solve, so why is Chumbo your main suspect now?
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Post Post #1295 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:26 am

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In post 1294, clidd wrote:You also said on D1 that Lava and Lunar were your solve, so why is Chumbo your main suspect now?
I said {Chumbo, Lunar} was my solve.
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Post Post #1296 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:26 am

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #1297 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:27 am

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Ok, good. You remember.
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Post Post #1298 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:29 am

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And what about Lava, do you have your reasons to TR him or you just agree with something that I or Ben said about the slot?
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Post Post #1299 (ISO) » Sat Dec 12, 2020 4:32 am

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In post 1298, clidd wrote:And what about Lava, do you have your reasons to TR him or you just agree with something that I or Ben said about the slot?
I have my reasons for we he's more likely town than Chumbo, ,
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