PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Battle Mage]

at least this proves my boy Pooky is the best! and maybe now those silly masons and other misguided town will listen to him.

[mastina]

yes im town noraa, i've poured my heart and soul out in this thread.

And yet that heart and soul pouring out has generated very little in terms of solid gamesolving.

[Not Known 15]

I still wanted to wait for Pooky

I see no good reason to. Pooky was clearly pocketed, BM claimed VT, the game has been spammed to page 100+ on Day 1(and urgently needs a night- break)...

[Polar Bear Express]

at least dunnstral is obvtown.

Where?

-nornor

[Battle Mage]

I guess NK15 was scum then? plus Solstice. That's something.

NK maybe. Solstice no.

-nornor

maybe you noraa, maybe you. i was largely townreading you, but towards the end of today you've been all over the place. you're not as scummy as Solstice though.

[Polar Bear Express]

Noraa is fine too

Murder is the best option.

-nornor

[Polar Bear Express]

Please flip scum thx

i am town, like i said all along. duh

also noraa, you screwed me again! the tradition lives on!

are you twilight trolling?
if no, sorry I really gotta stop paranoiaing myself into SRing you every game.

-nornor

[Battle Mage]

yes im town noraa, i've poured my heart and soul out in this thread.

And yet that heart and soul pouring out has generated very little in terms of solid gamesolving.

that's largely because of you, mastina. your ridiculous trivial tunnelling has meant that 100 pages were mostly spent with people hiding behind your skirt and focussing only on me. I have done my bit in terms of solving, maybe tomorrow you can pull your finger out.

[mastina]

Pretty sure this is town!MT.

It is; you'll see it when I make my readslist but Solstice has joined the townbloc. As a top-tier townread.

[Battle Mage]

and maybe you can admit you were silly for spending all that time protesting I was "confscum" "lockscum" "100% scum".

Because it was no bueno.

also your bad faith, ill-thought-out VLA angle-shoot attack on me was lame regardless of my flip.

[Battle Mage]

Please flip scum thx

i am town, like i said all along. duh

also noraa, you screwed me again! the tradition lives on!

are you twilight trolling?
if no, sorry I really gotta stop paranoiaing myself into SRing you every game.

-nornor

im not convinced you SRed me Noraa, I think you just wanted to elim me regardless.

[Double the Trouble]

I'll just wait for the flip for conclusive evidence, i trust BM about as far as i can throw him.

- Norwee

[Battle Mage]

I'll just wait for the flip for conclusive evidence, i trust BM about as far as i can throw him.

- Norwee

it wouldnt shock me to see you still protesting i'm scum tomorrow after the flip.

[mastina]

VOTE: Battle Mage
It's time to end this day.

Hey so like.
Remember the mini normal that just ended where scum quickhammered on D1? (A move Flavor Leaf orchestrated?)

Remember how the town didn't policy-eliminate the quickhammerer and lost because of it?

I'm actually thinking that

regardless

of BM's alignment, that is, even if he flips scum: NK15 should die tomorrow, no exceptions.

[Blade Dancer]

Official Vote Count 1.18

Solstice

(2): Double the Trouble, Battle Mage

Battle Mage

(9 - Execution): mastina, Creature, Toogeloo, Dunnstral, Netflix and Chill, Bell, MURDERCAT, Polar Bear Express, Not Known 15

Ircher

(2): Dr Easy Bake, Solstice

MURDERCAT

(1): Ircher

Double the Trouble

(1): Ydrasse

Not Voting

(2): pichu, Spiffeh

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to execute.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-12-14 16:00:00)

That's a hammer. Flip incoming.

[Blade Dancer]

The group surrounded the wizard in chainmail. "He calls himself a battle mage. Let's see if he can cast a spell on us. We'll execute him if he does." One of the bears shouted.

"And if I don't because I am not a leaf. This is just a costume."

"So, we wouldn't even find a bit of Pooky's magic in you?"

"I am just ordinary, let me go."

"You're a leaf! You're hiding your magic. How can you be ordinary? It's in your name!"

After a few more exchanges, more than half the bears wanted Battle Mage exposed. They came with their rakes and windblowers, only to find Battle Mage was full of stuffing and not blessed with magical powers or leaves or magical leaves.

Nightfell upon the suburbs, forcing most to sleep. Only those with bits of magic from Pooky or Flavor Leaf opened their eyes. It was time to do the bidding of their precious plushies.

Most would have to regroup tomorrow. Would they be able to ferret out the scummy leaves in time?

Spoiler: Vanilla Townie

Welcome, Battle Mage, to

PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf

!

You are a

Vanilla Townie

, aligned with PookyTheMagicalBear.

Active Abilities

:

Where applicable, you may use

one

of the following each night.

• You have no active abilities.

Passive Abilities

:

• You have no passive abilities.

You win if Flavor Leaf's evil leaves (the mafia) are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

(expired on 2020-12-12 17:12:00) until Night 1 ends.

[Blade Dancer]

As the beary good residents awoke from their slumber, they gradually began to uncover evidence of malfeasance at night. Lots of bear stuffing was tracked from the center of town. The group went around past the bakery and the gym to the hospital. The tracks stopped outside an ambulance. It was not known how, but one of the bears had managed to pull himself to an ambulance despite being shot fifteen times. Still, a doctor can't save themselves. No one responded to Not Known 15's call for help until it was too late.

Spoiler: Not Known 15's Role PM - Roaming Doctor

Welcome, Not Known 15, to

PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf

!

You are a

Roaming Doctor

, aligned with PookyTheMagicalBear.

Active Abilities

:

Where applicable, you may use

one

of the following each night.

• Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, that player will be protected from one kill that night.

Passive Abilities

:

• Roaming is a role modifier that prevents a power role from ever targeting the same player twice. Even if the ability is blocked or otherwise prevented, you may not target that player ever again. Likewise, if the ability is redirected or deflected, you may not attempt to target your original target again but you may target the player you were redirected to on another Night.

You win if Flavor Leaf's evil leaves (the mafia) are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

The group quickly reformed and did a head count. Netflix and Chill were missing. Speculations ran rampant as the group went around town looking for them. Eventually, the group found themselves in their apartment. One of them had his eyes held open, forced to watch a sci-fi clip on loop until he died. The other was suspended from the ceiling. Given how intricate this death was, there's zero chance that Netflix and Chill was responsible for the death of Not Known 15. No. They were just informed about the capabilities of scum.

Spoiler: Netflix and Chill's Role PM - Informed Townie

Welcome, Netflix and Chill, to

PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf

!

You are an

Informed Townie

, aligned with PookyTheMagicalBear.

Active Abilities

:

Where applicable, you may use

one

of the following each night.

• You have no active abilities.

Passive Abilities

:

• You know that any scum can use their night abilities and kill in the same night.

You win if Flavor Leaf's evil leaves (the mafia) are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

There are still four evil leaves remaining. Will they manage to overrun the town?

Another day starts now. The sun will fall in (expired on 2020-12-22 18:21:00)

Time added to deadline as thread was locked longer than expected.

[Blade Dancer]

Official Vote Count 2.0

Not Voting

(14): pichu, Ydrasse, Polar Bear Express, Bell, Dr Easy Bake, Toogeloo, Solstice, MURDERCAT, mastina, Dunnstral, Spiffeh, Ircher, Double the Trouble, Creature

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to execute.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-12-22 18:21:00)[/color]

[MURDERCAT]

These are the reasons that Noraa is scum:

1. Early tone is over the top and later shifts
2. Same response to pressure as in Death Curse
3. Gloria is too invested in attacking me, given her limited involvement

Spoiler: 1 - Tone

Noraa knows that she has a signature tone as town that is hard for her to fake as scum due to the fact that she doesn't enjoy the role. She also knows that this tone is highly effective on Pooky.

AHEM
*jumps around and hits everyone on the head with a heavy textbook*
IM CONFTOWN
I never ever thought I'd say this in this game but I am AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
*does some breathing exercises*
*breathe in*
*breathe out*
*throws a slipper at murder*
I be happy. Btw atm I wanna yeet shelly to the sun just bc she scummy af. I also wanna yeet UNO to the sun for lurking big time yesterday during the scroll passing periods and alivening the moment a new day starts.
Ahem T^T Mush dont hurt me for the fluff. *hides behind murder*

There is a joyful happiness that exudes from her posting like summer rain.

This post in particular.

It feels extremely pure and innocent.

I believe that Noraa's tone this game is fake and over the top.

me wuz joking btw. me wills follow some rules

Don't use AtE. 100% scum indicative. you use that evilness to pocket me >:(
scum scum scum scum scum scum scum scum scum
HMPH

u thought I would tunnel u. 200% scum indicative.
town!me has been proven to be able to hunt scum!alisaes.
tell the truth. ur scum again aren't you?

back for round two of Lets break Noraa's heart

NOPE. NOT IN MY GOOD CHRISTIAN HOUSEHOLD(im not even christian but like sh)

VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: Double the trouble

*raises my eyebrow*

O_o
o_O
HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
me shalls give rvs TR lollipops to u two. I expects green apple TR lollipops back tho and they must be green apple or blue raspberry!

For your consideration, two of Noraa's town isos:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... er_sort=Go

Skim through posts 1-500 in each of those games. Notice how much more exaggerated Noraa is here?

Now you might just look at those posts and think it is within Noraa's normal range, but look at page 2 in her iso.
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12398736

Nothing in page 2 of the iso is anything like these first posts, suggesting to me that the tone is fake and she is having trouble keeping it up. Noraa is even aware of this and points it out:

The baby talk will be back tomorrow when I'm less sleepy

Spoiler: 2 - Response to Pressure

Noraa has trouble making up cases as scum. Look at these posts in death curse (links rather than quotes due to length):
8962
9127
9233

Now compare to the case that Noraa has on me in this game:
2513
2523

For full context, the following posts are:
2514
2524

In both cases, there is no actual analysis happening. Noraa is linking a lot of quotes, providing a superficial description of the events, and claiming that I am scum off them without actually providing any reasoning behind her claims just as she did in my last scum game with her.

Spoiler: 3 - Gloria

Before I begin this section on Gloria, it is important to point out that I am

not

making a case based on activity here. I believe that Gloria has had RL stuff going on and I don't use arguments like that because, as I said with BM, I think it's kinda shitty. However, given Gloria's lack of activity you would not expect her to 1. be particularly invested in the game and 2. have strong opinions about me. However, there are a number of instances that suggest to me that Gloria is in a scum PT and is aware of certain pushes that need to be made (currently, this refers to attacking me, in an attempt to reduce the influence that I am having on the game as I am correct about Noraa scum).

First, some evidence that Gloria shouldn't be very aware of the gamestate:

Pichu, Gloria isnt feeling well or something.

She's been talking to me a little bit about the game but methinks she's either sick or sad.

Apparently they haven't been talking very much about the game. Fair enough. Now let's look at the Gloria posts that come after this.

VOTE: Murderkitty

I don’t like the way he’s been pushing us, it feels very disingenuous to me. He sees Noraa as easy miselimbait and I feel didn’t engage me in good faith.

DT shading us for my not posting enough is also bas but they might actually believe it. I don’t trust murderkitty and how he’s been trying to drive a miselim without following up on the answers to the questions he asked of me. What happened to that MC? Why did you ask me those questions, then fail to follow up on them? Why didn’t you ask me to explain or elaborate on those reads? You just dropped it altogether. I want to know why and I’m not moving my vote until you explain this.

This is a strong reaction for someone barely following the game and against someone who Noraa had not really been pushing at all, no?

Well we are a hydra, so are you saying you’re townreading me?

Well I’m really trying. If you recall I think it was either my first or second post to LLD in Death Curse was I expect to be generally useless early game and I wasn’t going through that rl thing at that time. I’m not good at larges. I get lost with the sheer number of players I have to sort, pages to read etc.

I still like Ydrasee because she’s engaging a slot and Pichu and I think this is probably town! MT we’re seeing. Wrt BM I did like their sincerity but as I said before I have no meta on them and if Noraa’s right about them being TPR then it’s obviously a bad wagon.

I’m kind’ve wondering why DT has ignored my posts about my rl issues and how I even said that Pooky can confirm I’m having a rough time of it. @DT, did you just skip those posts because you called my lack of activity scum indicative despite my posts literally telling you that Pooky can verify I was telling the truth about that, so why the unwarrented shade on me for that?

This to me feels like someone who is more aware of the gamestate than they are letting on. Once again, I am not suggesting that Gloria isn't dealing with real stuff. I am suggesting she is getting info from a scum PT and has an agenda that she is pushing. There is no effort, for example, to look through my iso after accusing me to see what she has missed. To me, this is behavior from someone who is over-informed and pushing something on the thread, not a townie who is trying to get back into the game.

I may not be the greatest mafia player ever, but I know when I've caught scum. I let Pooky and mastina run the show D1 and we missed. Let me take my shot.

VOTE: Polar Bear Express

[Bell]

Okay, what.

[Spiffeh]

VOTE: Creature

[Bell]

fuck it.

VOTE: Murdercat

[MURDERCAT]

?

[Double the Trouble]

Good morning villagers

[Bell]

Good morning villagers

good morning fellow human. Beep.

@Murdercat, they're not scum. I read your old argument, I read their posts. I've read their reactions to pressure. Scum emulate their own town games and their own response to pressure because it's like what they normally would do. You pushing at Noraa town is scummy asf.