Okay read the case.
This is not something I have any way of judging.
In post 2743, MURDERCAT wrote:Skim through posts 1-500 in each of those games. Notice how much more exaggerated Noraa is here?
This is not something I trust myself to judge as a secondhand meta thing where I have no true reference point.
I feel like this is an unfair take though I don't have any way of explaining that thought.
In post 2743, MURDERCAT wrote:Noraa has trouble making up cases as scum. Look at these posts in death curse (links rather than quotes due to length):
8962
9127
9233
Now compare to the case that Noraa has on me in this game:
2513
2523
For full context, the following posts are:
2514
2524
In both cases, there is no actual analysis happening. Noraa is linking a lot of quotes, providing a superficial description of the events, and claiming that I am scum off them without actually providing any reasoning behind her claims just as she did in my last scum game with her.
This one however I can definitely point out as being wrong. I actually did check out the links...but not just to the posts linked. To other posts not linked, surrounding the linked posts. In the links to Death Curse, Noraa's content surrounding the linked posts is defensive and does indeed lack scumhunting.
The Noraa posts surrounding the linked posts in this game
do
contain scumhunting. Not in the posts linked, but in posts on the very same page that were not linked.
2511 is a substantive, content-filled post on the same page as the linked
2513; near as I can tell, nothing resembling it existed in the Death Curse counterpart.
2516 is probably within Noraa's scumrange, but still contains depth that I did not see in the Death Curse link. Similar for
2517.
2521 also has some depth to it.
So for this point, I can say I definitely disagree with MURDERCAT here and in fact, this looks cherry-picked. Something where he deliberately takes the parts most similar between games, while ignoring the surrounding areas that are different.
In post 2743, MURDERCAT wrote:However, given Gloria's lack of activity you would not expect her to 1. be particularly invested in the game and 2. have strong opinions about me.
These seem like bad assumptions to make. Being V/LA and lacking activity doesn't mean a lack of investment or inability to form a read, especially if your hydra partner is informing you of events in your hydra PT that you read even when you're not reading the thread.
In post 2743, MURDERCAT wrote: However, there are a number of instances that suggest to me that Gloria is in a scum PT and is aware of certain pushes that need to be made (currently, this refers to attacking me, in an attempt to reduce the influence that I am having on the game as I am correct about Noraa scum).
If Gloria were a solo player, this would be a valid push. (Heck, I made a similar point about Battle Mage.)
If.
The problem is, she isn't.
She is, explicitly, part of a hydra.
A hydra that has a private topic and maybe more to talk in.
In post 2743, MURDERCAT wrote:First, some evidence that Gloria shouldn't be very aware of the gamestate:
In post 1764, Polar Bear Express wrote:Pichu, Gloria isnt feeling well or something.
She's been talking to me a little bit about the game
but methinks she's either sick or sad.
Talking to Noraa a little bit about the game inherently implies that Gloria has at least some awareness of the gamestate imo.
SO.
For the case.
I can give no judgement on tone, but on the parts of the game that are actually things I can assess: this case feels very wrong, very narrow-minded, very manipulative, very specific, and not accurate at all.
Does that mean it's wrong? I'm not a Noraa guru, heck if I know.
But I can tell you as someone who doesn't know Noraa, that the case on her does look like it's not valid.
