Silent Star 3: Royalty

[Gloria Cleary]

I metadived Ydrasse and am pretty sure she’s town here. I will link some games.

[Gloria Cleary]

Back to me, Jessie, Ydrasse ought to be paired. And maybe we should bow down to Jessie being too brilliant for the scumteam to fool?

If I was actually pocketed by scum!Infinity after shitpushing me all-game, I will feel seriously stupid but rn, I think Flea is scum here and Ydrasse town based off of meta.

[Gloria Cleary]

Rn, I think I want me, Jessie, Ydrasse to pair and not sure on the fourth but it would be hella weird for scum!Isis to be pushing Flea over Ydrasse.

However, Infinity as also been scumreading Flea. Pooky is the only one who hasn’t but it doesn’t read like scum theater to me. Idk.

[Gloria Cleary]

I’m too tired to post the links to Ydrasse’s games but feel pretty good I’m right on her being town.

[team rocket queen]

And maybe we should bow down to Jessie being too brilliant for the scumteam to fool?

this certainly isn't true. pooky only says i'm brilliant because they've never seen me at my worst, in the same way that isis says i'm good at playing as mafia based on what she's seen of me. someone i am quite fond of once told me i have a distorted self-image in a game though so since then i mostly try to point out the good things instead of more accurately representing how i feel about my play.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

your humility is your best part jessie

<3

[Kanna]

@mod what happens at deadline if the votes are tied at 6-6 ?

You need to bold this.

I assume the first person to reach 6 votes will be the launch. I will confirm with Hectic.

Hectic has confirmed this to be correct.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Spoiler: Pooky Drunk Ramblings at 7am

so let's assume the mafia know this rule because it was a 6-6 T/S split and they are somewhat invested in the outcome of the flip.

Let's say you're the bad guys here.

You see TRQ votes GYP at 7AM EST

Wagons are:

Gyp-5(Gloria, Ydra, Hop, Pooky, TRQ)
Hop-3(Isis, Skitter, Infinity)

10AM - Dunn jumps on Hop

Gyp-5(Gloria, Ydra, Hop, Pooky, TRQ)
Hop-4(Isis, Skitter, Infinity, Dunn)

Now you can have Gyp/Tweetie jump on and make it 6-5 with Hop ahead, you'd have the 6-5 lead and by Plurality Rules you will get your elim through since your side reached 6 first.

If there is a scum in Gloria-Ydra-Hop-Pooky-TRQ, they can deepwolf after Hop mis-elim goes through.

Instead Infinity at 11AM flips to the Gyp Wagon making it:

Gyp-6(Gloria, Ydra, Hop, Pooky, TRQ, Infinity) vs Hop-3(Isis,Skitter,Dunnstral)

This is 3 hours before deadline.

What does the scum team hope to do to get Gyp out at that point?

Noon-
Gyp is still at
Gyp-6(Gloria, Ydra, Hop, Pooky, TRQ, Infinity) vs Hop-3(Isis,Skitter,Dunnstral)

Flea jumps on TRQ for a second, Gyp also jumps on TRQ. Why? If they're trying to get Jessie to abandon the wagon because Infinity is now on Gyp, it seems like a singularly stupid idea for Gyp to vote Jessie here? What's even the point of this move? Is Gyp trying to get somebody off the Gyp wagon by offering Jessie as an alternative? Who are they even appealing to with this?

Gyp flips back off the wagon to Hop a few minutes later.

1:06 AM - gyp hops back onto Hopk

Gyp-6(Gloria, Ydra, Hop, Pooky, TRQ, Infinity) vs Hop-3(Isis,Skitter,Dunnstral) vs Hop-4(Isis, Skitter, Dunn Gyp)

Tweetie paranoias a bunch of thoughts into the thread before putting Hop at 5. Who is she even trying to paranoia off the wagon here? They need someone to flip but who is Tweetie targetting?

What I'm really driving at is. What is the scum plan if I don't wake up randomly and switch my vote here? Who can plausibly even flip off the wagon? Or is the entire scum team all in on the idea they can paranoia a townie off the Gyp wagon and the entire gyp wagon is actually town?

[Flea The Magician]

I'm just ctrl+f'ing iin the pages for me for anything I need to respond to.

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Spoiler: It's relevant at this point anyway

@Isis, I did answer it.

Assume scum split themselves (most likely):
Pooky + Ydrasse.

Why isn't it Pooky+Jessie? You said you don't think her approach to the game seems townie to you all day 1 and 2, and to me this phase has been more of the same from Jessie while Ydrasse's play is a marked improvement.

I really think me and jessie are literally just a play style clash. Ydrasse has done nothing but lurk.

Given the 4 stumped players were lurkers...

After that first elimination, with 6 scum against 5 town, there was no pressure for them. Ydrasse made a whole lot of promises and didn't come back in phase 2, same as gypyx was doing.

Now the pressures on.

Now she's here.

You even quoted it in one of your next posts Isis.

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Pooky’s sorting of flea here feels really genuine though and they are digging flea out of a hole if they’re scum and fae is town.

also did it actually feel like pooky was doing this to anyone else? like pooky said pooky was doing this, and infinity then used pooky's exact words more or less, but it did not feel like pooky was doing this to me, at least up until the post in which pooky said, actually

this

is what i'm doing

I felt like he could’ve just...said nothing? Like the consensus seemed to be that we’re limming flea, so any engagement with faer gives faer another chance.

wouldn't call it consensus, 4 people (majority) with some shitty ass reasoning and frankly balls to it.

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I similarly want to townlock Flea's crazy d1-2 posting and just yeet the people with the scummiest opinions about the hammer and solve the game that way.

Yeah it's almost like *gasp* I'm town who made one weird ass chaotic decision thats turned me into lockscum

Why do I get this sinking feeling you know what Flea will flip because you trying to push Infinty is making me think you’re trying to link him to Flea?

Kinda like I have locktowned infinity prior to this and already set up associatives regardlard of how I flip. Never mind that Infinity is independently freaking town anyway.

Is this saying you townread Flea?

I'm getting there yes

I would be really disappointed in flea beyond words if flea is actually red and resorting to that level of ate.

Sorry, am I not allowed to be salty? from UTR to Todays Elimination in 1 post, which is not out of the normal for me - where my best scum tactic is TO JUST BLOODY LURK.

mental boom earlier today so i’ll post maybe more later tonight or tmrw but @isis id like to dance with you for fun but realistically i’m unsure right now because i feel like i’m miring through people trying to find a tr to trust beyond jessie and gloria

Speaking of lurking. I'd be amazed if this isn't a dodge.

Is this saying you townread Flea?

I'm getting there yes

I would be really disappointed in flea beyond words if flea is actually red and resorting to that level of ate.

Rn, I’m trusting Isis the least out of anyone.

ꉂ (๑¯ਊ¯)σ л̵ʱªʱªʱª
Unless you mean outside of me.

So they sent infinity over to be the deep wolf. How did they know isis/flea wouldn’t hammer it?

Genuinely are you not reading my posts here?

I HAVE SAID SEVERAL TIMES WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY I WOULD NOT GO FOR LHF OR LURKERS.

Spoiler: On we go.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=34888


Flea towngame


I couldn’t find any Flea scumgames but fae were a lot more serious in that game.

My meta is on my wiki. I have no scumgames. I'm still finding my feet. My newbie game was me super filtering.

The council was me here but without kaomojis, I was also the N1 in a micro game where I'd latched on to scum quickly. I didn't need to ISO people there because I was sure on my reads.
DC was my first large and I was still in my newbie game. You look at the end near where you made me rage I was being more my chaotic self and I was still done and posting. And i flipped town there.

Meta is trash anyway.

Do as you will.

[Flea The Magician]

eugh, it's Irrelevant at this point, not relevant.

[Dunnstral]

Large font, bold, underlined, italics, all caps

Exodia, flea wins this argument

[Gloria Cleary]

@Flea you continued insistence you wouldn’t launch a lurker isn’t convincing because you swatted anyone who even dared scumread Hopkirk all game.

@Pooky, what does all of your mech analysis amount to? Give me the cliff notes’ version.

And no, at that time I made that quote Isis was my #1 scumread, now I’m just really confused.

[Flea The Magician]

@Flea you continued insistence you wouldn’t launch a lurker isn’t convincing because you swatted anyone who even dared scumread Hopkirk all game.

@Pooky, what does all of your mech analysis amount to? Give me the cliff notes’ version.

And no, at that time I made that quote Isis was my #1 scumread, now I’m just really confused.

Nothing I say at this point even matters, lets face it.

yes I was swatting at anyone who had suspicions on hopkirk.
yes I was sad when hopkirk started lurking.

SO WHY WOULD I NOT WANT TO BE THE ONE THAT REMOVED HOPKIRK FROM THE GAME!?

i stg... it's like I've lurked the entire game and everything I've ever done had perfect rhyme and reason

Can we just eliminate me already?

[Flea The Magician]

It wasn't meant to be. honestly I'm lost at this point. I don't want to take out lurkers as it's LHF and they might get more viable late game, like we've both done previously.

#2309 - I think it is, like aside from pooky at this point there's nobody I'm reading badly. I don't want to hit LHF and the pace of the game is weird so I can understand why we got lurkers.

Don't wanna take out a lurker because that just feels weird knowing I can be lurkish sometimes

[Flea The Magician]

Like seriously form your pairs and let me out of this game.

[Flea The Magician]

Like I don't even care at this point.

I was loving this game and having fun and now frankly this is just annoying.

My entire D1 has been yeeted, everyone elses is still being considered. ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯

[Gloria Cleary]

@Flea, who do you think are the two remaining scum? I know you think Ydrasse and who else? I really need Pooky to explain his mech analysis because that would very likely impact on how I read this game because I’m still not clear on exactly how that impacts the gamestate.

Please don’t give up yet, I’m still trying to figure all of this out.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im not done yet.

there really isnt that much mech so to speak. i am just trying to piece together what happened and figure out motivations that make sense.

[Flea The Magician]

@Flea, who do you think are the two remaining scum? I know you think Ydrasse and who else? I really need Pooky to explain his mech analysis because that would very likely impact on how I read this game because I’m still not clear on exactly how that impacts the gamestate.

Please don’t give up yet, I’m still trying to figure all of this out.

Gave up 2 days ago.

Only reason I'm still here is good faith for the mod and that I haven't been eliminated.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Genuinely are you not reading my posts here?
I HAVE SAID SEVERAL TIMES WITH ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY I WOULD NOT GO FOR LHF OR LURKERS.

and you also said multiple times that hopkirk was innocent and you would defend him right up until you hammered him.

You said it yourself: "Chaos is the only way <3"

How does the scum team know that you would not hammer Gypx for Chaos?

This isn't even about your guilt. It's about whether Infinity can be scum taking a risk.

The rewards are vast but Jessie and I disagree on the size of the risk being taken and we are just trying to talk that out.

[Flea The Magician]

Nowt worse than having to prod a miffed player in a lockscum slot.

[Flea The Magician]

Guilt? What guilt?

there is no guilt. just unbridled chaotic fury.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Gave up 2 days ago.

Only reason I'm still here is good faith for the mod and that I haven't been eliminated.

It is extremely unpleasant for me to try to figure out your alignment in good faith and try to create scenarios in which you are innocent while you repeat over and over again that I am guilty and refuse to even pretend to engage in the game in good faith while screaming over and over again that you want to be executed.

This is not a good way to play regardless of what alignments we actually hold.

I am spending significant amounts of time on this while you continue to throw tantrums.

[Flea The Magician]

Hmmm... I wonder....

*swats and sulks*
Admittedly my love for hoppy has fallen with his inactivity and I'm considering questioning my town read having read the ISOs I have

</3

*swats*
Eugh with this much on hoppy I suspose I'd better stop blind defending and actually look at him properly and confirm my townread instead of just rolling with the townread (˵¯͒〰¯͒˵)

Hoppy <3 has returned and yeah I've no doubt on my read there, ISO not needed.

I'm sure hoppy is green but deadline was approaching

and you preferred to keep the person who hasn't even posted in the game. good decision.

˚‧º·(˚ ˃̣̣̥᷄⌓˂̣̣̥᷅ )‧º·˚

Amazing what you find when you actually read my posts.

Chaos is my way, yes. However, I am still required by the laws of the mortal realms to have the occasional bit of non-chaoticness.

[Flea The Magician]

Gave up 2 days ago.

Only reason I'm still here is good faith for the mod and that I haven't been eliminated.

It is extremely unpleasant for me to try to figure out your alignment in good faith and try to create scenarios in which you are innocent while you repeat over and over again that I am guilty and refuse to even pretend to engage in the game in good faith while screaming over and over again that you want to be executed.

This is not a good way to play regardless of what alignments we actually hold.

I am spending significant amounts of time on this while you continue to throw tantrums.

Oh I am sorry, I forgot I must still be conductive to the game while my posts arent being read, at least 90% of my play and my posts are being ignored.

Want me to claim?
Doesn't make a difference though does it.
"I'm town!" - scum covering up.
"I'm scum!" - hammer time.

You already made your read on me clear pooky. Now you're just bricking it for when I flip green so you dont look like you've TMI'd with your naff case at the start of the day on me knowing full well you dodged a bullet with ydrasse because I hammered.