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[SirCakez]

like if Noraa is scum here she's playing suicidal and it doesn't make any sense

[Noraa]

My gut says gamma is more scummy overall, but if we do have a four town situation, I think Noraa is less utility because I don't read Cakez as scum at all right now and she seems keyed up to auto challenge him.

Kinda rude for u to say that. ur basically just justifying a vote on me as a Pl and *assuming* all 4 are town.

Ur like gamma is scummier but Noraa is more negative utility to town. Hence justifying ur vote on both largest wagons of the day.

Maybe I can see
Vp/Notsci/Cake/__

You understand how silly this post is, right?

I mean, you're saying I'm justifying my vote when you literally said you'd yeet anyone who isn't you, nbd.

This is why I'm saying if you're town, you're pretty low utility. I tried to work with you and you came up with a harebrained theory that I'm scum because of that. It's not a town mentality. I honestly feel bad if you eat a lot of D1 yeets, but if this is your town play....what do you expect to happen?

dunno what else you except from someone with a 3 month join date but if ur solution is just "PL all newbies", ur the silly one.

I don't understand townreading noraa over pooky here

*gestures vaguely in the direction of the concept that people tend to like people who act like they do*

wat so u TR me now?

I’m planning on rereading gamma in the context of VP’s points against him but have to do work so hopefully later today

Also I reeeeeally don’t like noraa’s posts being like “this is why the other people in the pool are scummier than me” but not actually scumreading any of them

Oh I SRed all three of them at the time that I made that post.

??? Here’s the post you made:

In the current bracket, im not sure who is scum or if there even is scum.

which implies that you didn’t have a firm scumread on

any

of them, let alone all of them, and now you’re trying to make it seem like that post saying you’d vote anyone wasn’t sketchy af

Maybe a better term was I SL all of them.

[VP Baltar]

I'm going to try to reread some of mafiaSunny today after I get se stuff done and see if noraa got this combative as scum around the time reck flipped

Reck, would love your insight here since you shared a scum team with noraa

[Noraa]

you're so confibiased it's unreal
maybe instead of doing mental gymnastics to somehow confirm to yourself that I'm scum why not just look at the obvious and realize I'm not voting you because I'm not scum and I'm not scumreading you

Town!cake doesn't act this calm and composed. It just doesn't happen.

I am not a meta expert but when someone is far out of their town range, I can see it.

[SirCakez]

you're so confibiased it's unreal
maybe instead of doing mental gymnastics to somehow confirm to yourself that I'm scum why not just look at the obvious and realize I'm not voting you because I'm not scum and I'm not scumreading you

Town!cake doesn't act this calm and composed. It just doesn't happen.

I am not a meta expert but when someone is far out of their town range, I can see it.

when I'm not being fuckwagoned to elim on day 1 then yeah I don't get pissy lol

[VP Baltar]

dunno what else you except from someone with a 3 month join date but if ur solution is just "PL all newbies", ur the silly one.

First, you've played many games, so spare me the I'm a newbie crap.

Second, that isn't my policy at all. In fact, I probably give newer players too much benefit of the doubt, aka me letting stuff slide for you in mafiaSunny

[Noraa]

No no. Cake is scum. Clear as day.

He doesn't talk logic to me if he's town. He just tunnels me if he's town. This calmness is just not town!cake and I won't believe otherwise.

[Noraa]

First, you've played many games, so spare me the I'm a newbie crap.

Second, that isn't my policy at all. In fact, I probably give newer players too much benefit of the doubt, aka me letting stuff slide for you in mafiaSunny

Quantity =/= Quality lol.

You didn't give me the benefit of the doubt. Gamma just wasn't present much during the last few days so that ended up being beneficial for me.

I don't think the newbie card does much for me considering I've never won a game solely because of it.

[SirCakez]

No no. Cake is scum. Clear as day.

He doesn't talk logic to me if he's town. He just tunnels me if he's town. This calmness is just not town!cake and I won't believe otherwise.

Quote ANY evidence of this from any other game for me please

[Noraa]

No no. Cake is scum. Clear as day.

He doesn't talk logic to me if he's town. He just tunnels me if he's town. This calmness is just not town!cake and I won't believe otherwise.

Quote ANY evidence of this from any other game for me please

This calmness wasn't present in Betrayal. I can't provide other games yet.

[SirCakez]

Ok and there is a large difference between Betrayal and this game

[SirCakez]

Your one game of (bad) evidence is making you 100% sure I'm scum?

[Noraa]

Soul reads work like that.

[Noraa]

they don't need much evidence. After all they are entirely based on feeling/vibes.

[SirCakez]

Ok well that's terrible lol

[Untrod Tripod]

like if Noraa is scum here she's playing suicidal and it doesn't make any sense

if they read the last Hidden Temple game, the scum team would know that it's very beneficial in this setup to bus the absolute shit out of someone. at 8:4 it's pretty unlikely to get all misyeets, so preparing for and executing a bus when the time comes would be essential to make it to endgame as a team. a suicidal scum makes perfect sense to me as a person who has played scum in this setup.

I suppose you could make the argument that if it was a bus, why self-vote? one reason why scum would self-vote is it would allow fewer town to get credit for being on the wagon. seems less likely than what you're saying, town player who is melting down. the flurry of hide-saving posts could point to town.

however, it could also point to trying to throw as much false associatives out there as possible. that's what our bus-ee did in the last Hidden Temple game and it worked like a charm.

at what point for you does the preponderance of weird/bad posts become scummy?

when I see actual scum motivation and not just Noraa's typical AtE biased flail

she plays like this all the time? jesus christ.

what I'm hearing from you is that you think I'm reaching for misyeet bait. fair enough argument against, I just don't agree.

In post 916, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 915, VP Baltar wrote:
I don't understand townreading noraa over pooky here

*gestures vaguely in the direction of the concept that people tend to like people who act like they do*


wat so u TR me now?

how in the heck could the post you quoted possibly mean that?

you're so confibiased it's unreal
maybe instead of doing mental gymnastics to somehow confirm to yourself that I'm scum why not just look at the obvious and realize I'm not voting you because I'm not scum and I'm not scumreading you

Town!cake doesn't act this calm and composed. It just doesn't happen.

I am not a meta expert but when someone is far out of their town range, I can see it.

meta is trash

Your one game of (bad) evidence is making you 100% sure I'm scum?

Soul reads work like that.

they don't need much evidence. After all they are entirely based on feeling/vibes.

lol

well shit, that settles it I guess. she's so sure of herself that she came up with an extra special name for it. that means it's even realer and the entire classroom starts applauding and the teacher cancels the rest of class.

[notscience]

I’m using meta but I know it won’t deter most of you it’s why I’m not actively fighting it

[SirCakez]

I'm not accusing you of anything UT I think your push is justified

[AGar]

would it not do to shore that read up though? It's the same issue I brought up regarding baltar where the solving is not present imo

It does not strike me as odd. It's Day 1. He clearly doesn't see it as a priority.

AGar, why the Gamma vote?

Of the four, I find Gamma's sustained behavior most likely to come from scum. I could see an argument for Pooky gambitting with the autochallenge, but the followup hasn't given me those vibes. VPB has been, to me, the most logically consistent all throughout. Noraa I still get townvibes from overall. Haven't loved recent posting, but most of it I can chalk up to some level of frustration. A little concerned about VPB's statement of inconsistencies between PT and this thread, and there's been some recent alarm bells, but I'm not close to switching.

My gut says gamma is more scummy overall, but if we do have a four town situation, I think Noraa is less utility because I don't read Cakez as scum at all right now and she seems keyed up to auto challenge him.

Kinda rude for u to say that. ur basically just justifying a vote on me as a Pl and *assuming* all 4 are town.

Ur like gamma is scummier but Noraa is more negative utility to town. Hence justifying ur vote on both largest wagons of the day.

Maybe I can see
Vp/Notsci/Cake/__

I loathe this post. I hate the intentional misconstruing of 909, and the attempt at a solve that follows.

[xRECKONERx]

Soul reads work like that.

is this actually new terminology

[Untrod Tripod]

anything you dream can be real

it's like tulpas

[Untrod Tripod]

Of the four, I find Gamma's sustained behavior most likely to come from scum

okay but I don't think it's gonna happen

isn't it wild how some of the people actually up for yeeting today want us to spend all of our time talking about people we can't yeet, our reads on whom will depend on today's flip?

really make u think

[notscience]

Soul read is just a new fangled way to say “really strong gut”

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not sure Noraa has graduated from the Institute of Soul-Reading yet.

[SirCakez]

Of the four, I find Gamma's sustained behavior most likely to come from scum

okay but I don't think it's gonna happen

isn't it wild how some of the people actually up for yeeting today want us to spend all of our time talking about people we can't yeet, our reads on whom will depend on today's flip?

really make u think

but gamma is in the pool?