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Post Post #125 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:41 pm

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Votecount 1.2


bad bear pun count
: 2


[3]Horsewoman:
Toogeloo, Marky Mark, JacksonVirgo
[2]JacksonVirgo:
LlamaMama, Nono
[2]LlamaMama:
Flea the Magician, Horsewoman
[1]no elim:
Momrangal
[1]DrippingGoofball:
Noraa
[1]Noraa:
DrippingGoofball
[1]no elimination:
no elim
[1]Flea the Magician:
AGamblingPig


[1] Not Voting:
Guillotina

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.


The elimination deadline is in (expired on 2020-12-22 12:35:35).
Last edited by Nero Cain on Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:55 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #126 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:46 pm

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Hmmm
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Post Post #127 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:51 pm

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Bear fact #2


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Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #128 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:53 pm

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In post 125, Nero Cain wrote:
Votecount 1.1


bad bear pun count
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[3]Horsewoman:
Toogeloo, Marky Mark, JacksonVirgo
[2]JacksonVirgo:
LlamaMama, Nono
[2]no elim:
Horsewoman, Momrangal
[1]DrippingGoofball:
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[1]Noraa:
DrippingGoofball
[1]no elimination:
no elim
[1]LlamaMama:
Flea the Magician
[1]Flea the Magician:
AGamblingPig


[1] Not Voting:
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With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.


The elimination deadline is in (expired on 2020-12-22 12:35:35).
I switched my vote to Llama

I fixed it to reflect that in
Like the four horsemen of the apocalypse, not like a woman who is really into horses.
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Post Post #129 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 1:57 pm

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Damn, lolol.

To many null reads this game but it do like the fact that guillotina picked up the newbie tell. Lean town there, at the moment I think flea is my biggest desire. Lama I can easily be convinced, I'm not a fan of hedge. Even when supposedly forced to state a read it was all superficial analysis
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Post Post #130 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:11 pm

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Ok well im now 99% sure I have soul read on Flea and I think they're scum. Maybe will explain why later. A bit cautious treading in this territory cuz last I SRed Flea, they were town. Gimme some time to think.
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Post Post #131 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:12 pm

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In post 130, DrippingGoofball wrote:

Ok well im now 99% sure I have soul read on Flea and I think they're scum. Maybe will explain why later. A bit cautious treading in this territory cuz last I SRed Flea, they were town. Gimme some time to think.
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Post Post #132 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:22 pm

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In post 130, DrippingGoofball wrote:

Ok well im now 99% sure I have soul read on Flea and I think they're scum. Maybe will explain why later. A bit cautious treading in this territory cuz last I SRed Flea, they were town. Gimme some time to think.
No, you're gonna have to explain it now.
Nope. im not 100% sure yet so im not dropping meta tells just so Flea can change it up. Once its a pattern, it'll click better.
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Post Post #133 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:32 pm

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That sounds like not playing to your win condition in this game fully in order to aid you in future games.
Like the four horsemen of the apocalypse, not like a woman who is really into horses.
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Post Post #134 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:36 pm

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:cool: Meta is trash, so are meta tells.
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Post Post #135 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:41 pm

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Noraa, you said you are 99% certain that Flea is scum, but you won't say why. When I asked, so said it has to be 100% for you to drop that precious meta tell.

Explain that please.
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Post Post #136 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 3:43 pm

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I will drop it sometime day 1. just wait patiently.
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Post Post #137 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:34 pm

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In post 101, Noraa wrote:I don't like Marky's vote on Horsewoman. Feels like an overreaction honestly.
Jacko's reminds me of Shelly's mini we played in recently so I'll locktown Jacko for it for now.

I took Horsewoman's post as a joke as well but honestly even if it isn't, its nothing big, yeah? Like half the time im town, I just sheep people who actually don't suck's reads lol.

Moving on to read page 4~
What about Mark's vote seems like an overreaction? Also what about my plays compared to shelly's mini makes me lock-town? I don't want to get pocketed here by noraabear. OH MY GOD NORAA IS A BEAR
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Post Post #138 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:35 pm

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In post 102, Noraa wrote:Jacko doesn't always make sense is what I've found. I think he kinda has "wrong place, wrong time" ~vibes~
Yeahh, I still try though :c
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Post Post #139 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:36 pm

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In post 103, Noraa wrote:
In post 93, Flea The Magician wrote:*finger cracking*

Lets freaking do this.
Spoiler: 2
Get used to these, amma do my thang here.
In post 34, Marky Mark wrote:
In post 27, Horsewoman wrote:Hi I'm new go easy

VOTE: DGB sure
Is this an alt?

Btw I am super gutted about the flavour. I thought it was going to be the town as bears with guns and the scum as the park rangers (like Yogie Bear kinda) :P
Unlucky there booboo! No pinching of the a pic-a-nic baskets for yoou! (☆Θ艸Θ)
In post 41, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 25, Noraa wrote:MINE
You betrayed poor Nero :c

Therefore you must be scum!
I approve of this logic (•́⌄•́๑)૭✧
In post 43, Horsewoman wrote:Alright, someone do the protown thing and create something dumb and artificial to get us out of RVS
You just did.


Spoiler: 3
In post 53, JacksonVirgo wrote:I can't even bear this game anymore, it's too dead :c
THEN PUT SOME LIFE INTO IT! ARE YOU A MAD DOCTOR OR NOT!? :twisted: :doc:
In post 55, JacksonVirgo wrote:I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I believe you've hit a bearier when you
cannot understand my bearfaced bear puns, what an embearassing revelation for you.

Go eat some Strawbearies and hope to gain some grip on your unbearable reality.
Get in the bin.
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In post 53, JacksonVirgo wrote:I can't even bear this game anymore, it's too dead :c
Apologies for needing to sleep :P Anyways, I thought you'd be appreciating a slower-paced game after the whirlwind that was Bending
Sleep is for scum. VOTE: Markiplier
In post 68, Horsewoman wrote:I did want to drive the game forward but I didn't (and don't) have any reads this early so I hoped someone else would do it for me
Ooof. (ʘᗩʘ')
In post 72, Horsewoman wrote:Trying to get the game to progress out of RVS/apathy stage is absolutely a pro-town mindset
⌈O ▂▂ O⌉


Spoiler: 4
In post 78, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 74, LlamaMama wrote:JacksonVirgo, how much do you actually think Horsewoman is scum, and how much is your vote for pressure's sake?
Me answering this question would immediately remove all of the pressure if my vote
is
for pressure and what's even the use of this question?
Agreed.
In post 80, LlamaMama wrote:Fine, I'll go through both possibilities before you answer then. I would have rather had it the other way round so I could have a better understanding of your perspective first, but *shrug*

In , Horsewoman says she doesn't have any reads yet. This means she probably won't have much to offer when pressured. So why does JV choose to pressure there right afterwards? It's a lead doomed to dry up, since Horsewoman has already said she's come up short of any reads. A pressure vote there makes little sense as a result, and I'm not sure why JV chose to push there right after seeing evidence that it wouldn't lead to much.

So I thought JV might actually think Horsewoman is scum. But based on what's been posted so far I'm not seeing it. My gut reaction to Horsewoman's posts has been town, and the evidence against her in is fairly baseline - it's a lot about what town SHOULD be doing, but not really evidence that Horsewoman IS SCUM.

So tl;dr I don't think JV's vote makes much sense from any town perspective and is kind of doing the exact thing Horsewoman is being accused of: creating 'content' that won't actually go anywhere.

VOTE: JacksonVirgo
This is interesting, as we're now in a loop. For D1 page whatever we're on this sounds far too certain. and more votes that are "doomed to dry up"
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In post 81, JacksonVirgo wrote:I'm going to head off to sleep now but I'm gonna say a few words before I do.

Llama's "read-fishing" strikes me as strange to ask as Town, it's like they're trying to fake content and see if my vote is real or otherwise to see if they can start pushing there as well. Either that or they trying to gauge the collective read on their buddy (and whether or not it's just for pressure) though that one is kinda weird to do objectively and I doubt they'd be that blatant as scumbuddies but it's a weird interaction nonetheless. Horse was blatantly trying to sap the town-cred from their posts by saying it's absolutely pro-town to hide behind the efforts of other players by claiming to have involved themselves with pushing the game out of RVS. Both are individually scummy but I'm trying to get a feel of whether Llama's post lead to them being possibly aligned or otherwise.



@Horse and @Llama
, do you have scum/town games under your belt and if so can you link a few?
Your other posts are ++TR but asking for meta on pg4 strikes me as a bit forced - particularly as this is nothing something I recall you doing in our 2 previous games together where you were town
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Ok well im now 99% sure I have soul read on Flea and I think they're scum. Maybe will explain why later. A bit cautious treading in this territory cuz last I SRed Flea, they were town. Gimme some time to think.
Why don't you explain now? And why aren't you voting them if you think they're 99% scum?
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Post Post #140 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:37 pm

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In post 104, Noraa wrote:Not sure what I think of llama honestly. I feel like llama reads somewhat genuine and im willing to town bin for now.
That's a terrible reason to town-bin someone, you can't townbin and say you're not sure what you think of them. Those are contradicting statements
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Post Post #141 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:38 pm

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In post 107, Guillotina wrote:
In post 99, JacksonVirgo wrote:Of course not, some prime examples of anti-town behaviour include
Not_Mafia, Not_Mafia and Not_Mafia.
Is this an reference I'm supposed to understand? I'm also new here so I didn't get it.
They're a player that is anti-town to it's core. They hammer any E-1 regardless of alignment and never takes games seriously, at least as far as I know.
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Post Post #142 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:39 pm

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In post 109, AGamblingPig wrote:VOTE: flea

I'll be MIA for about 24 hours as I'm traveling.
Is this an RVS vote or a serious one?
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Post Post #143 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:39 pm

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In post 140, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 104, Noraa wrote:Not sure what I think of llama honestly. I feel like llama reads somewhat genuine and im willing to town bin for now.
That's a terrible reason to town-bin someone, you can't townbin and say you're not sure what you think of them. Those are contradicting statements
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In post 101, Noraa wrote:I don't like Marky's vote on Horsewoman. Feels like an overreaction honestly.
Jacko's reminds me of Shelly's mini we played in recently so I'll locktown Jacko for it for now.

I took Horsewoman's post as a joke as well but honestly even if it isn't, its nothing big, yeah? Like half the time im town, I just sheep people who actually don't suck's reads lol.

Moving on to read page 4~
What about Mark's vote seems like an overreaction? Also what about my plays compared to shelly's mini makes me lock-town? I don't want to get pocketed here by noraabear. OH MY GOD NORAA IS A BEAR
Your pushes don't make any sense to me. Thats what's similar. Its also like page 5 so you actually need to chill a bit more if ur town.
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Post Post #144 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:40 pm

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In post 140, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 104, Noraa wrote:Not sure what I think of llama honestly. I feel like llama reads somewhat genuine and im willing to town bin for now.
That's a terrible reason to town-bin someone, you can't townbin and say you're not sure what you think of them. Those are contradicting statements
I mean ... ok?
What I meant is that im unsure of the conclusion that I came to but llama is basically a null town lean.
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Post Post #145 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:41 pm

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In post 141, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 107, Guillotina wrote:
In post 99, JacksonVirgo wrote:Of course not, some prime examples of anti-town behaviour include
Not_Mafia, Not_Mafia and Not_Mafia.
Is this an reference I'm supposed to understand? I'm also new here so I didn't get it.
They're a player that is anti-town to it's core. They hammer any E-1 regardless of alignment and never takes games seriously, at least as far as I know.
He's grown as a player if you ask me. His recent games for example shelly's mini, I found it quite enjoyable to have him there :D
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Post Post #146 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:43 pm

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In post 127, Nero Cain wrote:
Bear fact #2


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Post Post #147 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:45 pm

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In post 143, Noraa wrote:Your pushes don't make any sense to me. Thats what's similar. Its also like page 5 so you actually need to chill a bit more if ur town.
I mean it's often I can't fully explain my reads yeah, but I am going to try regardless of what page it is so you can't actually expect the deathtunneling expert Jacko to chill out lmfao.
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Post Post #148 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:46 pm

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In post 144, Noraa wrote:I mean ... ok?
What I meant is that im unsure of the conclusion that I came to but llama is basically a null town lean.
Oh so you have no other null-town or higher reads than Llama/Horse and myself? That's awkward wording Noraapoo
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Post Post #149 (ISO) » Sun Dec 13, 2020 4:47 pm

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In post 145, Noraa wrote:
In post 141, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 107, Guillotina wrote:
In post 99, JacksonVirgo wrote:Of course not, some prime examples of anti-town behaviour include
Not_Mafia, Not_Mafia and Not_Mafia.
Is this an reference I'm supposed to understand? I'm also new here so I didn't get it.
They're a player that is anti-town to it's core. They hammer any E-1 regardless of alignment and never takes games seriously, at least as far as I know.
He's grown as a player if you ask me. His recent games for example shelly's mini, I found it quite enjoyable to have him there :D
Didn't I yeet myself out of the game early on? I don't really remember Not_Mafia doing much and I recall replacing out.
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