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vote count 7.01

davesaz (3): Infinity 324, Hoopla, Not_Mafia
Infinity 324 (1): davesaz

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Deadline: (expired on 2020-12-21 13:30:00)

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to eliminate.

mod notes

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- quack

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davesaz has been eliminated.

He was a...

Spoiler:

Town 1-shot Watcher

.

A win condition has been achieved.

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Infinity 324,

Vanilla Townie

, has been endgamed.

Not_Mafia,

Town Neighbouriser

, has been endgamed.

Hoopla,

Mafia Goon

, survives and wins.



Congratulations to the scumteam of Hoopla, Something_Smart & Smoke and Mirrors (rep. lilith2013)!

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scum pt

night 1 hood

night 2 hood

night 6 hood

dead + datisi pt

infinity 324 pt

smoke and mirrors pt

mod pt

[Infinity 324]

Eww sorry

[JacksonVirgo]

I carried owo

[skitter30]

Grats scum, thanks tw for modding

This was kinda frustrating for me while i was alive

[Infinity 324]

We got lilith slot for you at least

[skitter30]

I should have forced it day1, i think

[Infinity 324]

I just keep thinking about my hoopla scumread d1

I hate doubting myself when I was right to begin with, but it’s so hard to hold on to a scumread when no one else sees it

[Menalque]

fwiw you saved the game from ending in 7p, infinity

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thank you all for playing! <3

[Menalque]

thanks for modding ducky, wp scum

I share a moderate amount of frustration about this game which I may or may not go into later

I think a lot of my thoughts are already in dead pt tho

[Infinity 324]

fwiw you saved the game from ending in 7p, infinity

Did I? I had such a strong townread on s_s that I couldn’t argue he was scum, lol

Thanks for modding tw

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the dead thread is menalque's notes pt, the mod pt is tw's thoughts about menalque's thoughts pt

[skitter30]

Yes, infinity was fantastic!!!

[TheGoldenParadox]

i regret not tunneling hoopla harder

[DrippingGoofball]

i regret not tunneling hoopla harder

Me too but she's just so charismatic!

[davesaz]

Nice job. So much wrong with this game that I'll give myself health problems thinking about it any more. Bye.

[Hoopla]

Eww sorry

heh heh hehe he

[Hoopla]

congrats town for a hard fought game, and a knowing wink to my cunning scumteam;)

this could have been over much earlier if we had pushed through peta on D4 and taken dave/mena into 7p ELo as i was sure dave would mis-vote mena. as it happened, the unexpected rush onto SS caught us by surprise that i felt bussing was the safest option to ensure i'd at least win it in 3p if SS/S&M were ever eliminated.

town also had a lot of opportunities to crack the game wide open early. lilith wagon got to E-1 on D1, and it felt like half the town suspected me at one point over the first few days, though not simultaneously, which allowed us to slowly pick off my detractors. SS played a great town looking game for the first 4 days. it was perhaps fortuitous timing that when SS came under pressure, i was starting to look more town and build a game-winning alliance with infinity.

overall, the game had a fun balance of behavioural analysis, meta-reads and mechanical plays (props to SS for dreaming up the no-kill gambit N1 - this went a long way to clouding PoE and winning the game i feel). thanks to duckie for the smooth hosting job also.

[Hoopla]

Me too but she's just so charismatic!

also, sorry it seemed you weren't enjoying the game on D1! i invited you to have a fun time with ol' hoops, but as the gods would have it, i drew scum. i feel i probably would have come to your defence more if i was town, as it seemed quite obvious to me you were town - but given lilith and i were under pressure, it was simply too beneficial to quietly allow your wagon to go through.

[skitter30]

Gj hoopla!

Also i will henceforth be ignoring people telling me to listen to vague mechanical reasons for clearing people who i scumread, because i've gotten burned on just this like three times recently

[Menalque]

I’m just happy that I eventually was correct on every scum before they flipped, although in basically every case it was at the 11th hour and I would have struggled to follow through on hoopla if I’d actually still been alive

I think the fundamental error here was placing faith in “mechanics” over calling scum based on play. Notable that of the 3 voices who spoke most loudly about mechanics, 2 were scum and 1 was Dave who was perceived so widely as scum for where his mechanics-based play led him that he was speed wagoned to lose the game.

I disagree with skitter that the game was lost when lili wasn’t killed D2, if my memory of her position in dead thread is correct — but i do think that TGP was probably the misguillo that lost town the game. I think if we’d either misexecuted Dave or, ideally, hit any scum there, then town probably clears through the PoE and there’s potentially a less culpable looking misexec at the end which maybe prompts more reflection from those in mylo.

Overall, I think scum played well and deserved the win, I guess I’m slightly sad about it because I feel like there were just a number of small mistakes that if they’d gone differently would have led to the opposite outcome

[skitter30]

Day3 technically